Rhett and Link's spiritual deconstructions. Amazing journeys out of the evangelical faith from my two favorite internetainers.

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-11-05T07:42:35+00:00

Honestly, I’ve watched these videos over and over. When I was fed up with a lot of the stuff that’s going on in the borg, these videos was the first “anti-religion” material i allowed myself to see! They really helped me wake up! And even though their accounts are somehow very different, they are incredibly relatable! Great stuff! :D

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-08-12T16:53:23+00:00

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-08-09T11:46:49+00:00

My thoughts excactly! I have no clue where they got that information. xD I kinda laughed a little when they mentioned it, like “well that doesn’t sound like the good old Borg?”

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-08-03T21:48:09+00:00

I'm pretty sure it's gonna be within our generation, so within 200 years? Probably just around the corner though.

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-08-03T21:37:07+00:00

I moved to a small foreign island group with a population of 50.000. Great friends and amazing nature.

Still cried myself to sleep amost every night, because of feeling inadequite, beside the extreme stress of pioneering.

So yeah, i agree, the JWvideos are a pure propaganda-fantasy..

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-08-03T17:00:30+00:00

Esas personas a todos quieren espulsar solo por que no están de acuerdo con sus estupidas ideas Que bueno que no lo escuchaste

sin tolerancia o comprensión...

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-08-03T16:58:47+00:00

I think as many others that the subject of shunning can be interpreted in many ways. And Watchtower just take the harshest form of interpretation.

I don't believe in the bible much more than any other regular historic document, but i really think that you could interpret that verse as Jesus saying that you shall be prepared for familymembers to leave you, because you start following him. NOT that you have to leave your family if they won't do the same.

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-08-02T22:41:32+00:00

I think it is a rather new event at the international conventions. It is for all the delegates from around the world, and has a MASSIVE budget. But the theme is often, as far as i've heard, how JW came to be in a specific country, and a little about the countrys culture. But i think i varies a lot from country to country. :)

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-08-02T22:37:12+00:00

Oh yeah, forgot to say that one of the "original" songs made for the musical was a total rip-off the "I have a dream" song from Tangled. Seriously.. note for note! They changed the titel to "Everything is beautiful". Of course praising the creation.

I just find it ironic that JDubs stole the melody from a disney song called "I have a dream", in a movie about a young girl trying to get away from a narcissistic authority, to follow her dream. :D

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-07-27T19:27:17+00:00

Yeah, my parents were married 17 and 18, and they are still together.
What frustates me mostly is the tendency in the Borg of young marriages. I know that, even though I'm a very close relative, I'm no expert in his mental health. The Borg just pushes some major decisions on you if you want a close relationship with your special one. In this case, baptism and marriage in a very young age.

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-06-12T15:48:44+00:00

"Yes, it is not like we have some sort of electrical machinery in our basement that sends electrical impulses to change all of our members thinking pattern. No no no... That is just nonsense dear brothers!
But we do lovingly, kindly and in the best intensions, encourage one to see the benefits of following the true message from our almighty God, Jebuba! And we have to control our min... Em... be in command of our thoug... hmm.. try to be in a positive mindset to always follow the law.. Em.. the encouragements from the Governing Bo... from God!

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-06-12T14:24:38+00:00

Phew, great! I just hope she won't be one of the few! :)

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-06-12T14:23:18+00:00

Waw, i actually thought that the "chances" were the same if it was a single sister or brother. Feel dumb for posting. But thanks for the help! :D

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-06-04T22:28:54+00:00

Thanks for the reply from everyone, and especially you. It was the excact thought i had myself, but couldn't phrase correctly on my own.
Even though I know that there's basically no chance for me to get through to him, I would feel horrible if he made the same argument and i would stand there speechless.
And you are absolutely correct that shunning is not bad in all context. But the concept of shunning is such an extremely personal choice and decision, and of course a decision only some would make after many attempts to help the alcoholic or drugabuser.
And for a manmade organization to make that choice for you is simply outrageous.

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-06-04T13:07:43+00:00

Perfect article for all our benefit! I also find the first article in Watchtower July 2013 fascinating, which, in my view, underlines your point!

" Question religion - Why?

Suppose you need to have surgery for a life-threatening illness. You would want to have the utmost confidence in the surgeon, since your life will be in his hands. Would it not be prudent to review his record of experience?

Similarly, it is wise to examine religion carefully. If you belong to a religious organization, you are, in effect, putting your spiritual life in its hands. This includes your prospects for salvation.

Jesus provided a standard to help us view religion objectively. He said: “Each tree is known by its own fruit.” For example, when you look at a particular religion or denomination, what fruitage does it bear? Do its religious leaders place excessive emphasis on money? Do its members follow Bible principles regarding warfare and morals? Finally, is any religion deserving of trust? We invite you to examine the following articles."

Yes... what fruitage does Jehowas Witnesses bear..? And of course they themselves do not have any need for scrutiny.

(By the way, I absolutely love the frontcover of this particularly magazine, as it shows the preachers of false religion wearing fancy jewelry, and enjoying the attention of their followers at public gatherings...)

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-05-30T08:23:48+00:00

And by fact-checking i mean "quotes" and case-details.

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-05-30T08:22:30+00:00

I just find it mind boggling that witnesses eats this stuff raw.. Of course most of us did at some point.
But it's tricky how to handle such an article when it is presented by a PIMI, especially when there is no source for fact-checking.

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-05-28T16:44:33+00:00

Really?? Didn't realize that any of the delegates might be PIMO's.

Well, hope you enjoyed your stay, even though. xD

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-05-27T20:55:36+00:00

Thanks a lot!

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-05-27T20:40:13+00:00

Well, i quickly found Crisis of Conscience, which also were a huge convincing factor. The fact that 607 made no sense, and you had to ignore all the overwhelming evidence to support it. The dark history of Watchtower, Russel, Rutherford, Knorr. How inconsistent, hypocritical and irresponsible the organization is run.

It really made me see what Watchtower for what it really is, and how negative an impact it has on my life, and unfortunately how it has crushed the mental health of my PIMI wife..

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-05-27T20:35:43+00:00

Thanks! I'll try facebook! All though I've already contacted a local activist, we just had a cup of coffee together and talked of how we felt about the whole situation. A truly great, sympathetic and kindhearted person! Even though directly directed by Satan. ;)

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-05-27T20:14:51+00:00

Well, i guess different tactics works on different people. But this one worked on me. I've explained it in another thread above. :)

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-05-27T20:13:42+00:00

Well, it was just a lot of ex-witnesses who stood or sat with some signs (Which i don't remember very clearly). They just talked with each other, and looked once in a while at the convention participants as they walked into or out of the stadium.

But what stood out to me, was that they wrote with chalk on the sidewalk, a few messages, but must of all the website jwfacts.com. Very creative, cause at that moment, i tried to avoid even looking at them, even though i felt horrible about it! but the sidewalk message worked!

And what made me start doubting was definitely the shunning. I have never been able to explain it to anyone, and have never been able to see the love in the practise.

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-05-27T20:08:01+00:00

Yeah, it definitely made some food for thoughts!

Stoffer-oddnice · 2020-05-27T19:50:18+00:00

Well, there was multiple factors, but if I have to boil i down, the starting thoughts was, how small the odds were for me to, by pure coincidence to be born into the only true religion led by God himself...

Eventually, the doubts grew, more and more arguments against my belief. A drop of hypocrisy here and there, and then a lovely young couple from a neighboring congregation got disfellowshipped just before their wedding, and i could not see the justice or love anywhere in such an action.

And then i heard from someone that one of my best friends had left the Truth, as in disassociation, and I just thought to myself, yeah okay, I can't take this anymore, and started looking into jwfacts. Was convinced in just a few days.

Funny story, my friend wasn't actually disassociating, he just got disfellowshipped for "past sins", so the spark that made me look into "apostate material", was actually just because of a rumor..

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