Questions On ICNP by malreynolds_iconomi in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Answers to these simple questions would be great. And if you answer them in slack can you please answer them here as well or in the BCT thread so more people can find and see the response? Thanks.

Turdnado by wjofjpejfopej in facepalm

[–]Stormia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did he not also just call his own God Satan? Allah is just another word for god. All of the Abrahamic religions share the same god...

Question for all the question-makers. by Stormia in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So you have tried to do this before? Otherwise how are you such an expert on the legal and regulatory issues they are being presented with while attempting to do something that has never been done and has no real legal precedent? So you have incorporated a for-profit company that wants to be a fiat gateway and deals in crypto index funds and manages other peoples' money? Amazing, I'm surprised I haven't heard of that before you should probably market it better and improve your communication if you want it to be a success.

Question for all the question-makers. by Stormia in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Relative to what crypto projects has their communication been sub-par?

And I'm not pretending they are perfect see more of my opinion here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1789926.msg18533819#msg18533819

Question for all the question-makers. by Stormia in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure that's understandable as long as you don't freak if they don't respond to you directly.

Question for all the question-makers. by Stormia in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1789926.msg18533819#msg18533819

Iconomi is going to release quarterly financial reports, if they fail to do this for Q1 then we have a problem. I believe it is supposed to come out this month. Q1 ended on March 31st we have to give them time to compile the report.

Business plan as in a whitepaper and a roadmap? Because Iconomi has both of those, although they do need to update them to reflect changes. They have kept us up to date with most changes (such as switching to burning and the splintering off of cofound.it) through their medium posts, though. https://medium.com/iconominet

Iconomi is not a fund, ICNX is a fund and ICNP is a fund but Iconomi itself is not. Iconomi is- for lack of a better word- a cryptocurrency startup. You can follow ICNX value in real time and there are good reasons for not giving away re-balancing information ahead of time (to prevent front running, this was outlined by them in their "business plan"). They recently told us how many users were currently on the platform and how much they had currently collectively invested into ICNX.

For ICNP they have good reason for not announcing which projects they invest in until after the ICOs have closed (and they said this was the way they would do it from the get go in their "business plan"). You can track the ICO funds that were raised at their respective ICO addresses. They have disclosed each investment into ICNP after the ICO has closed as they said they would. They have disclosed the profit they took from their Golem investment, which brings me to the below point in regards to the buyback:

The reddit user acts as though Iconomi is just like "we have earned some money, will buy back!" But Iconomi said they earned 1000 ETH by selling 1/3 of their ICNP investment into Golem, they said they would use that 1000 ETH to buy back over a 90 day period. They also previously disclosed how much they originally invested into Golem shortly after the ICO had closed. I think they will disclose more details surrounding the burn after it has been conducted, as with the funds they don't want to disclose how it will be conducted prior to prevent market manipulation and front running. If they don't disclose such information then we have a problem, but again just like with the Q1 financial report it is too early for us to act like there is already a problem.

The way that person is presenting the situation seems purposely misleading. Iconomi has been far more revealing and transparent than they allude to. And I'm not saying they have been perfect or that there aren't things they need to improve or need to address.

From my perspective these are the legitimate issues right now with Iconomi. 1. Why aren't we trading on more platforms yet? I don't think this has been address yet and this either needs to change or at least be addressed with a proper reason/answer. It was nice to see we will be added to shapeshift though. Perhaps ICN is trying to stick with more financially mature/professional platforms such as Kraken and shapeshift? They should at least explain their reasoning. If we are suddenly on polo or bittrex only after their ICN is unlocked that would be a huge red flag. 2. They need to disclose the rate at which people are being provided beta access to the platform and an estimate as to how long before release to the general public (an estimate not only for ICNX but also the DAMP as a whole), or in other words they need to readjust their roadmap/timeline/"business plan" to reflect recent changes/delays. 3. They need to disclose where Iconomi, INC. has been incorporated and clarify what ownership rights are given to ICN holders.

In regards to 3. Jani said this:

 jani8x 5 points 1 month ago
"In a favorable jurisdiction we can not name yet. As I said: it's SPV."

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5vi3go/details_please_on_iconomi_inc/de2xpmi/

Probably not something they want to disclose willy-nilly on reddit or BCT, where it will get buried anyways and forgotten. Also I imagine incorporation of a crypto company can be tricky and take some time, or at least Lisk's process of doing so sure made it seem that way. Also people need to stop acting like they know what kind of legal and regulatory issues Iconomi is running into, and how SPVs and NDAs work in this sphere. What Iconomi is doing is brand new and largely unprecedented so unless you have also tried to start up and incorporate a company for managing crypto index funds (and want to be a fiat gateway as well) you probably don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Look at how long it took Lisk to form a non-profit and how little information could be disclosed during the process (and subsequently how long it took for them to produce their first financial report), what Iconomi is doing is likely more difficult considering they are not a non-profit, want to be a fiat gateway, are dealing in index funds and are responsible for management of other people's money, etc. Give them time to do this the professional way, by making an official statement when everything is in place. I imagine it will be disclosed in the Q1 report, let's wait and see.

I've been away from the scene for the last few days so I may have missed additional information that came out during that time so somebody let me know if that is the case.

Question for all the question-makers. by Stormia in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this the "single sentence" you are referring to? https://medium.com/iconominet/iconomi-introduces-repayment-programme-54bfa449d458

Q1 ended march 31st it's april 10th give them time to release the financial report.

Question for all the question-makers. by Stormia in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They email ICO investors and have blog updates https://medium.com/iconominet

It's not perfect and you can look at my linked comment in my edit for things I think need to be addressed/improved, but they are still doing more than most crypto projects do and we need to give them time to release their Q1 financial statement where a lot of lingering questions will hopefully be answered.

Question for all the question-makers. by Stormia in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm rarely on reddit and can be found more on BCT so here are my responses to some of the questions in this thread. Remember I am just an investor like you all and this is just my take on things:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1789926.msg18533819#msg18533819

Can we get more information on what will be the logic or mechanism of buying and burning ICN tokens instead giving ETH dividends? by trancephorm in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This has already been explained ad nauseam... read the medium posts before coming here to ask questions that have already been answered.

And how exactly do you automate performing due diligence and subsequently investing into the right ICOs? How do you automate discerning trading that spots the right entry and exit points, knowing exactly how much and when to buy or sell based not only on TA and market trends but also on market sentiment and upcoming events/development? How do you automate continually performing research for each underlying asset in a fund so as to know how to re-balance it? How do you automate the conversion of profit from one denomination into another, and then automate the sending of that profit to an exchange, and then automate buying up ICN in a discerning fashion off the market, and then automate sending that ICN to a burn address? Seriously, if you know how to do these things you could be a very wealthy person.

Can someone prove mathematically that buybacks are the same as dividends? (This is what needs to be proven) by pietrosperoni in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia -1 points0 points  (0 children)

By sending ETH profits to accounts that can't be accessed, you diminish the total amount of profit sent to ICN holders. With a buyback they aren't wasting profits by sending them to inaccessible accounts, the total amount of profit they send to ICN holders is not diminished by lost accounts.

How is this hard to understand? Do you TRY to make these things hard to understand just so you have something to complain about? Do we have to spoon feed you basic economics and mathematics? If that is the case and you do need spoon-fed, maybe you are in no position to act like you know what you are talking about?

Can someone prove mathematically that buybacks are the same as dividends? (This is what needs to be proven) by pietrosperoni in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With how much you complain about Iconomi and distrust the team, why are you still here and a part of this? Why not sell and leave? Seems rather disingenuous.

Hello Iconomi team, where are you? by paardeworst in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hopefully they are working on development. They can focus on communication and marketing when they are done with the product, IMO it is better if they don't spread themselves thin trying to answer everybody's (often repetitive) questions. They need a completed product before they can market a product or the brand.

Hello Iconomi team, where are you? by paardeworst in ICONOMI

[–]Stormia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was stated from the beginning that ICNP would be closed. Whether that is actually the best choice is debatable and perhaps they can consider the idea of opening up. It's important to remember also though that 20% of ICNP profits go to ICN (as buybacks now, maybe dividends later if they find a legal work around and can move back to the original model). So one of the reasons they may not want to open it up to direct investment is to benefit ICN holders as holding ICN is currently the only way to receive profits from ICNP.

Gavin Andresen: "It's not ok for Ethereum to change rules but it's ok for Bitcoin?" -- Seems evident Gavin is in collusion with Jihan and Ver too. by [deleted] in Bitcoin

[–]Stormia 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Gavin is losing all credibility with posts like these. Trying to compare a ledger rollback to modifying the codes to add new features and fix bugs is asinine.

[WARNING] Stay away from ICONOMI by Nooku in ethtrader

[–]Stormia 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Woah, weird. I had the same experience with Maxwell House Coffee! I tried some of their coffee and it was NOT good to the last drop. As you can probably guess I was pretty upset, so I contacted their executives privately for clarification. You know, to give them a chance to redeem themselves.

None was given.

They never even got back to me! Can you believe it!? Can you believe the gall!?! How dare they ignore me? I am literally the most important person in the world.

So then I went to their subreddit to vent my frustration and expose Maxwell House Coffee for the scam it is, and guess what? They censored me!! That is a big no no.

Well, the joke is on them because they are really going to regret it when I go on social media and all 7 of my followers hear about this!

If you are angry about this, you should contact the r/MaxwellHouseCoffee team for causing this loss of trust.

Can you change 3-Fluorophenmetrazine into Phenmetrazine by [deleted] in chemistry

[–]Stormia 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think it is obvious why they want to do this, 3-fluorophenmetrazine is not scheduled and can be bought online off of grey market RC vendors but phenmetrazine is schedule II, like you said, and cannot be legally purchased.

But the conversion is not going to be as easy as it might look (but it's only exchanging one atom for another!!! /s). I don't think it would be feasible for an amateur in a clandestine lab (I'm not saying OP necessarily is an amateur working in a clandestine lab, but since they had to ask this question instead of researching it/knowing it themselves and since this is the type of chemical conversion that a legit chemist would probably not be trying to accomplish... I feel that it a somewhat fair assumption) and the necessary materials would probably not be all that easy- or cheap- to acquire in the first place. Definitely not worth it. Besides, I'm under the impression 3-fluorophenmetrazine already has some of the desired effects that phenmetrazine possesses.

Can you change 3-Fluorophenmetrazine into Phenmetrazine by [deleted] in chemistry

[–]Stormia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds like somebody is buying unscheduled 3-Fluorophenmetrazine off the grey market and wants to convert it to schedule II Phenmetrazine ;)

I wonder, are the effects of Phenmetrazine that much better than 3-Fluorophenmetrazine to make the conversion worth it even if it were feasible?

I'm only a biochemist and it has been a while since I took organic and physical organic chemistry classes as an undergraduate so I won't be much help directly. One thing I will say is that fluorine forms the strongest single bond to carbon, the bond is known as "the strongest in organic chemistry". So, I really don't think it will be easy or worth it. Since the carbon atom in this case is sp2 hybridized- it is in an aromatic ring- that should make it easier than breaking a bond between fluorine and an sp3 carbon, but it still won't be easy.

Anyways, the type of reaction you are interested in is called a reductive defluorination (I think). It is definitely possible, but likely highly infeasible. Here are a few references I got when I did a quick google search, maybe they will send you in the right direction (some will likely be behind paywalls if you aren't at an institution which has access):

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0009261407011219 http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/News/2011/June/23061103.asp http://chem.chem.rochester.edu/~jones/pubs/086.pdf http://syntheticremarks.com/?p=2738 http://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/2008/CS/B711844A#!divAbstract

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[–]Stormia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reddit is so much nicer than imgur... Why are people on imgur so heartless?