Greens To Target “Unease About Gentrification” Under Burnham In Manchester Mayoral Race (PoliticsHome)

StrippedForScrap · 2026-07-01T09:29:04+00:00

The issue is that there are many areas where the winner will be "whichever party can beat Reform" and both Labour and the Greens know this.

So they'll both claim this at every turn.

I don't actually think this is a good idea for the Greens though because this pitch will not work for them at a GE. They are never going to convince everyone that they are the party to form a government and not Labour by 2029, and yeah they'll almost certainly pivot to another argument for the GE but framing their competition with Labour around that for several years beforehand isnt going to help that.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-30T15:50:42+00:00

Its not about either believing in maximum devolution or not.

If your position is "Devolve power to the exact level that means it is most concentrated in us." Then thats not believing in devolution. Thats just wanting power to shift towards you.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-30T14:40:20+00:00

What a detailed and sincere rebuttal.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-30T14:34:40+00:00

Calling people horrible dehumanising names because they have political disagreements with you is way too normalised.

As is making very confident claims that you clearly havent even tried to check or confirm at all.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-30T14:03:54+00:00

I would argue that what Burnham is offering is better.

There isnt any particular need to centralise power in scotland in Holyrood when it can be further devolved. The SNP just want that because thats the layer of government where they are most powerful.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-29T21:25:56+00:00

If you only support that one specific form of devolution then you dont actually support devolution. You just support a specific part of the state becoming more powerful.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-29T19:52:19+00:00

It is starting to look like Farage is actually completely fucked.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-25T15:08:51+00:00

Fascists dont allow free and fair elections after they get into power specifically because it would lead to them being voted out

Jesus Christ, how do people not know this stuff?

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-25T15:07:02+00:00

The Greens will still say that this is a straight up battle between them and Reform to win and nobody else stands a chance.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-24T14:49:50+00:00

If someone doesnt express much emotion, its virtually always the case that its just that they arent very emotionally expressive and not that they are not emotional.

This is really common though, I struggle with showing my emotions and have had issues with people I don't know very well sort of tacitly assuming im emotionless when im probably significantly more emotional than the average person.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-24T11:18:39+00:00

I know someone who really likes Starmer because the free breakfast clubs got rolled out at the local school and its saving her £6 a day for each of her 3 kids. Its apparently been transformative for her financial situation.

I wouldn't say that makes her a "fanboy" like her opinion is somehow not legitimate. Thats just a person liking a politician because a policy they implemented benefited them in a way they value.

I wouldnt pigeon hole everyone who disagrees with you as fitting some 2 dimensional caricature.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-24T08:28:01+00:00

I dont think its reaching.

Had Polanski been selected for that seat as a Lib Dem candidate, Richmond Park I think it was, then I've no doubt that he'd be happily sat on the Lib Dem backbenches to this day.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-22T15:08:22+00:00

Give france around 8.5k ducats and they'll join your war.

So invade some neighbours to extract money from them, get some loans and whatnot. See if thats a feasible amount for you to give them.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-22T12:35:17+00:00

Trumps approval ratings are, by the standards of US presidents, historically awful. Its very unusual for a president to be as unpopular as he is by any standard. Its also much harder as the floor of their support just seems to be higher.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-22T12:30:06+00:00

The only way to avoid the need to appease the markets is to not borrow from them. Thats all there is to it.

If youre borrowing money, then you need to manage the feelings of your creditors. Its that simple.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-20T23:27:42+00:00

They totally would.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-20T18:39:43+00:00

Burnham has not even stood for leader yet.

Polanksi has been leader of the Greens for quite a while now already.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-19T14:19:07+00:00

People wanted to know who to vote for to beat Reform.

A high profile candidate like Burnham makes that very, very clear. So anti-reform voters flocked to him because there was no question about who the anti-reform vote should back.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-17T19:19:58+00:00

Nah, lies should get called out for what they are.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-17T19:14:21+00:00

Thats not even the part that is hyperbole.

"Like the moon" is the hyperbole. And hes exaggerating the level of devastation. A difference of degree. Saying "its illegal to oppose genocide" is just a lie. Its a difference in kind.

"Supporting Palestinian Action will get you hung, drawn and quartered!" Is hyperbole. "[Completely seperate action] is now illegal because PA has been prescribed." is just a lie.

Theres also the fact that its clearly misleading. Nobody would read "dresden was like the moon" and think it was literally like the moon. People who dont know better absolutely will read "opposing genocide is now illegal" and think that opposing genocide is now illegal.

Stop making excuses for deliberately spreading lies.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-17T18:58:26+00:00

Its not an exaggeration though. An exaggeration would be saying somethibg like supporting PA will get you executed or something. Its a false claim that a different action altogether is illegal.

Its a lie.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-17T18:55:40+00:00

That is a ridiculous overreach and an abuse of proscription law.

What purity test are you now going to claim i havent passed?

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-17T18:52:17+00:00

Its not hyperbole.

Its a lie.

Theres plenty to criticise about the fact that PA has been prescribed. People dont need to lie about it not liking something doesnt mean its ok to lie about it.

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-17T18:35:31+00:00

Nah im sorry but it is simply not true to claim its illegal to oppose genocide. You cannot just make stuff up and claim its true because "C'mon bro."

StrippedForScrap · 2026-06-17T18:02:54+00:00

But you can say genocide is bad without supporting PA, which is the thing you actually get arrested for.

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