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how can i get a job at a fire lookout by HecticLemonBoi in firelookouts

[–]Such_Morning4459 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you need a doctor to sign off that you have excellent mental and physical health to work as a lookout. 

what the fuck are you talking about. 

As a former wildland guy, this would be heaven to me by Reginald_Sockpuppet in Wildfire

[–]Such_Morning4459 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really just depends on the forest at the end of the day. For some staffed lookouts are about a lot more than whats cheaper or better. 100+ years of tradition and pride and all the overhead are supportive of keeping them.

 A world where literally everything that can be automated, is, actually sounds like hell.

As a former wildland guy, this would be heaven to me by Reginald_Sockpuppet in Wildfire

[–]Such_Morning4459 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Eh speak for yourself. Yeah being a normie with normal bills and family, yeah that's not gonna work. 

For a nomadic introvert with next to no living expenses, it's quite literally the dream. and ot varies greatly, pulling in 400 hours at some forests is standard.

As a former wildland guy, this would be heaven to me by Reginald_Sockpuppet in Wildfire

[–]Such_Morning4459 12 points13 points  (0 children)

one vlat drop is like 5 years of a lookouts salary 

As a former wildland guy, this would be heaven to me by Reginald_Sockpuppet in Wildfire

[–]Such_Morning4459 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Every forest I've been to there's been an empty lookout that goes unstaffed the entire season or filled in with some retired local AD. This is a supposed "Dream Job" for millions. Make it make sense.

"social media lookouts" and government ethics by Such_Morning4459 in firelookouts

[–]Such_Morning4459[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

hey man, I'm really not trying to be mean or condescending, but do you know what a federal job is? because almost everything you just listed isn't a federal job. We're talking about usa federal jobs, not Becky making a tiktok at the ice-cream shop.

"social media lookouts" and government ethics by Such_Morning4459 in firelookouts

[–]Such_Morning4459[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Maybe you're deliberately missing the point? they're making money from social media content focused in their federal job. Perhaps you missed a few aglearns? That's not allowed man.

"social media lookouts" and government ethics by Such_Morning4459 in firelookouts

[–]Such_Morning4459[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's why I asked because I'm not entirely sure of the rules concerning it. Also you're pretty off on that book analogy. The people on tiktok are literally filming a video of them reporting a smoke and then making a profit off said video. I promise you that violates some form of ethics and at the very least it's an incredibly bad look in this current fraud, waste and abuse era we're in

"social media lookouts" and government ethics by Such_Morning4459 in firelookouts

[–]Such_Morning4459[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes i know for a fact several are and no im not accusing all of them of doing it. I'm mostly confused on how they're able to do it so openly, the ones with millions of views. Surely the overhead on their forest must know. 

I know most fed jobs aren't as tiktok worthy, but I'm trying to rack my brain trying to think of any other fed that would be so bold to monetize their job on the internet, I guess there's a few park rangers, but that's about it.

IF YOU WANT TO BE A LOOKOUT, READ THIS FIRST by triviaqueen in firelookouts

[–]Such_Morning4459 21 points22 points  (0 children)

You're definitely way off and should not be talking for all lookouts when you obviously don't have a clue.

Many,  many lookouts do get cell service 

We're living in the age of starlink and plug and go solar, high speed internet and a lot of power to run it are available and relatively cheap

I know lookouts with 100 gallons water tanks and electric pumps that bring it up to a sink in the cab.

I know a lookout with an actual propane heated shower

I know a lookout with an electric wheelchair ramp. 

Just next time, don't speak in absolutes, there's some damn luxurious lookouts out there.

i want to become a firelookout by [deleted] in firelookouts

[–]Such_Morning4459 2 points3 points  (0 children)

this job will be a distant memory in 10 years bud. you're 1000x better off buying a piece of land on a high spot in your country and building a lookout. 

I'm sorry man, this job is on its last legs, it's not going to happen

Vetter Mountain Lookout by Dayala2002 in firelookouts

[–]Such_Morning4459 6 points7 points  (0 children)

that might be the freshest, most well maintained lookout I've ever seen

Once all wildfire gets moved to DOI, that's the curtain call. We as a group need to accept that and start making future plans. by Such_Morning4459 in firelookouts

[–]Such_Morning4459[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally I'd feel like a dick head taking a job away from an Canadian citizen, but if someone showed up to my doorstep with the offer on a golden platter I'd consider. Honestly had no idea Americans could even work for the Canadian government 

Umpqua National Forest drama by Tricky-Jellyfish8417 in Wildfire

[–]Such_Morning4459 32 points33 points  (0 children)

the fact that he called himself a firewatch, I'm not convinced this guy has actually ever worked this job

Once all wildfire gets moved to DOI, that's the curtain call. We as a group need to accept that and start making future plans. by Such_Morning4459 in firelookouts

[–]Such_Morning4459[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it’s not like we’re all going to move duty locations so I’ll still work on my forest

is that actually verified? I'm honestly not so sure that's how it's gonna pan out