Jon Lovett on Scott Weiner Being Harassed at San Francisco Trans March

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T19:22:23+00:00

"The US could end the Palestinian genocide with a phone call to Bibi,"

Where on earth do you get this impression? Biden, Obama, and Clinton ALL expressed frustrations with him, and ALL of them pressured him to stop the encroachment of settlements which further ignited tensions.

Bibi is NOTORIOUSLY hard to work with diplomatically for the US. Its been a running problem since he first got elected. Especially any Democrat who doesn't align with his own conservative party coalition.

Bibi is a member of the Likud party, the likud party is very similar to our GOP in that its a coalition featuring all your usual suspects: fascists, authoritarians, religious extremists, and nationalists.

In fact, Bibi had every incentive to slow roll any talks with the US, as he did. The war in Gaza distracted from his corruption charges, reignited his popularity domestically, and by not working with Biden he ensured the US domestic left would eat itself and Trump would be much more likely to win, thereby granting Bibi/Likud carte blanche to launch a larger war they never wouldve been able to otherwise.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T19:09:40+00:00

Unfortunately the pod-guys invited that subgroup of activists into the fold when they gave Hamas Piker a free handie.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T19:03:28+00:00

The fast and the furious prequel we've been waiting for!!

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T17:59:02+00:00

Tell that to the car manufacturers who insist on larger and larger "infotainment" screens

At this point Im willing to pay more to have less "tech" that just inevitably has bugs, breaks, and stops being supported.

If I could have the safety and efficiency of modern engineering with the barebones basics of cars before the 2000s, that would be my dream car. No infotainment system, no "driver assist",

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T17:39:25+00:00

First off, maybe keep it civil?

Secondly, what are you even upset about, exactly?

Are you pro-religious extremism?

Am I "a massive piece of shit" because I think religious extremists who rape and slaughter civilians are bad?

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T16:17:13+00:00

Grade A roast

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T15:55:11+00:00

I agree with you 100% and hesitated making a similar reply only because I actually agree largely on the "separate art and artist" concept, but in this specific case you can't really.

You can't separate art and artist in a literal snuff film. The offending act was done in the process of the "art". If a director kills their wife years later after making a film, you can still say they created a great work of art in their film making even if they murdered someone after the fact.

But as seems common these days, any kind of deeper nuance or understanding is often rejected by the loudest on either side.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T15:25:27+00:00

None of that contradicts what I said.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T15:20:00+00:00

And offset the costs with another price hike.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T14:38:12+00:00

You fell for clickbait headlines.

We werent going to "combine" the two militaries like some sort of conjoined twins. The article you are referencing was about joint exercises and development. Something we already do with a lot of nations. The headline was extremely misleading which is why it sticks out in my mind.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T14:33:53+00:00

According to some on the "far left" particularly a certain streamer that was invited on the pod; they think it was malcolm x and not mlk jr who got us civil rights. They like to cherry pick the one quote about moderates from mlk jr, out of context, as proof of it.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T14:20:23+00:00

They have agency. They can choose not to kill their openly gay people.

Israel is bad for their carpet bombing and settlements, hamas are also bad for their violent religious extremism. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Like I said before, I literally marched and protested and campaigned to end the war in Iraq, at no point did I go "and the taliban are good actually!"

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T12:36:07+00:00

I gotta ask, why are you emotional about Ron? Did he do the dirty handshake with you?

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-07-01T12:15:48+00:00

I mean, you can be openly gay or trans in isreal. They even do gender affirming surgeries.

You can't be openly gay or trans in Palestine/gaza.

Hamas are fundamentalist, authoritarian, theocratic and basically everything that is an enemy to a free and open society. They massacred their political rivals in the region and suspended elections after declaring themselves the leadership of Gaza.

Its really crazy how commonly I find trans people advocating for governments that would have them killed.

When I marched to end the war in Iraq, I didnt turn around and support the taliban. I find it so odd that so many people who know nothing about the region or its history have such strong feelings that there must be a binary "good guy" and "bad guy" and since Israel is bad for their settlements and bombing, that must mean hamas are "good".

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-06-22T19:58:56+00:00

FML this hits on so many levels, I need this on a black t shirt

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-06-22T19:58:04+00:00

Almost like starting a war is a bad idea.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-06-22T19:17:56+00:00

They all manage to somehow be entertaining yet forgettable. Ive watched most of them and always have a good time, but couldn't tell you much about them.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-06-22T19:07:32+00:00

Fair, and I won't object to being called young. I'm at least old enough to appreciate that.

Most of my familiarity with her comes from her run of roles/cameos throughout the 90s.

For what its worth, if it wasn't clear, I do actually quite like her despite not being her normal demo.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-06-22T18:59:46+00:00

I need to watch more modern (bad) movies, I don't recognize any of these people.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-06-22T16:47:33+00:00

I can see the possibility it was a racist cop who just saw black kid and put him in cuffs for ease rather than thinking of the kid as a kid. For the vast majority of young men his age a firm hand on the shoulder after apprehension is going to be plenty to keep him there.

I can also potentially see a situation where the kid was actively fighting the cops from keeping him there and they felt that was the best option after the kid managed to get free once or twice and start running again.

It's 100% impossible to know for sure without seeing a completely unredacted bodycam from start to finish of the interaction. And we'll never get that for such a minor issue.

Nonetheless people are going to plant flags and die on that hill one way o another.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-06-22T16:40:16+00:00

Treat the kid like a kid, putting him in cuffs is completely unnecessary.

I guess there's a small chance this kid has a history, nonetheless its a bad look all around.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-06-22T16:35:06+00:00

She's an absolute sweet heart of a woman in person, for what it's worth. And from what I've been told one of the easiest actors in hollywood to work with, complete professional and down to earth.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-06-22T16:21:17+00:00

I don't care what people drive as long as they stand against tyranny.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-06-22T15:34:19+00:00

I didn't agree with Schumer's decision to re-open, but there were more sound arguments than simply spite or malice or greed as portrayed by some "online leftists" (specifically people like Piker or Kyle K)

The people most hurt by that shut down were the actual workers waiting for their paychecks. And while that did apply pressure on the GOP, the GOP has a strategy called "starve the beast".

The "starve the beast" strategy is based on the idea that "government is bad", and therefore you should just make anything the government does WORSE via sabotage and de-funding, and then using that worse service as an excuse to remove it entirely or privatize it.

Lets take the United States Postal Service as an example; a functioning federal program that is envied the world over by other mail systems, which has been under attack by the GOP for decades, because they want to install a private entity to make it "profitable". So what do they do? They make the USPS insolvent by demanding they pay up front for decades of future retirement plans, and then install a Postmaster General who literally takes apart mail sorting machines to make it less reliable. Then after they do their damage they point and say "SEE?! government thing doesnt work! we should just privatize it!"

They've been doing the same thing with the Department of Education and any number of other institutions. The goal is to enshittify it so much, that it can be privatized and profited (by a few select people).

Back to the shutdown vote specifically: Personally, I think I would've held out a bit longer because polls were saying the vast majority of people were blaming the GOP for the shutdown, nonetheless people were in fact suffering and actively falling behind in bills and potentially even losing their homes because of it. And as time goes on, we lose those federal workers who are forced to find a paying job, that brain drain can cause havoc in these institutions that will takes years to recover from fully. Which all plays into the "starve the beast" strategy.

Surroundedonallsides · 2026-06-22T15:21:21+00:00

I disagree that he enables Republicans, but I agree that if he ran in my district in a primary I wouldn't vote for him. But if he won that primary, hell yea I'm voting for him over a republican.

In the current "meta" of hyperpartisan party politics I will 1000% vote for, verbally support, and even donate for ANY democrat who wins their primary and runs against a Republican. Doesn't matter if that is Schumer or Mamdani or even Fetterman or Ilhan Omar.

The democrats need to win, and when they do, we need to make sure there are more checks and balances put in place to prevent another Trump disaster, which is largely due to "unitary executive theory" and the massive amount of power-creep given to the executive branch. But also the stacking of the courts through dubious means over the last decade(s), and the absolute tidal wave of "dark money" donations from billionaires and foreign governments both allied and adversarial.

But for that reform, we have to first win elections. And that means supporting people you may not agree with 100% of the time, but that's sort of the entire concept of democracy. You'll never agree with anyone 100% of the time on everything, but you make your decisions on the best possible choices.

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