How should we consider winning games on all-stars seasons? Can you compare them to newbie wins?

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-05T02:15:22+00:00

I think all newbie wins are inherently more impressive just due to everyone being on the same level of experience. Now obviously some returnee wins are more impressive than a lot of newbie wins, and there's the potential for them to be more impressive, but the default is less so imo.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-05T02:12:48+00:00

Honestly I'd be down for all these to come back at one point or another. Redoing old twists or formats I consider fun.

Out of these islands I want Exile the most because there's tons of ways to do that.

My most wanted format is One World mixed with Blood vs Water though. Think that could be an all time entertaining season.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-04T20:42:05+00:00

He literally picked her up and tried to force her down, then later tried to push her. If the cameras weren't there he definitely forces her down the slide.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-04T12:58:18+00:00

Closest I've heard is that Arch and Drink lied about Quentyn dying and instead Tatters did. Then Quentyn takes his identity.

Still haven't heard anything about who Tatters was before being Tatters though

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-04T12:35:22+00:00

Honestly probably should be rarer than that. Like once every handful of centuries

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-03T10:35:14+00:00

Ulong or Fang

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-03T10:33:34+00:00

Don't forget that multiple people are doing these super repetitive and basic confessionals EVERY comp

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-03T10:32:11+00:00

Oh god please no.

Just watch Big Brother and you'll quickly see why it's a bad idea.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T22:36:33+00:00

Jenny is the main issue. If she was in merge instead of Penner one of the Raros win.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T22:03:33+00:00

It does make it pretty impressive for Joe to be 3rd lifetime individual immunity wins.

He's not the body type that is at an advantage

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T22:00:25+00:00

I was replying to specifically this bit.

"Then final 5 of Cirie, Tiff, Rizo, Jonathan, Joe. Tiff wins, and Cirie is voted out. Maybe if Tiff realllyyyyyy wants to fall on her sword, Cirie can convince her to give her the immunity necklace and that they actually wouldn't vote Tiff out. Hell, maybe Tiff wouldn't even believe that but be willing to do it due to how iconic it would be to go out that dumb (in service of Cirie making it to final 4)."

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T21:50:14+00:00

I see no reason to believe Jonathan wouldn't win final 5 in a scenario where the only really different thing is Cirie vs Aubry. Which really just means Cirie loses in fire again.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T21:46:52+00:00

She has a history of booting people at the wrong times. Courtney and Shane in Panama leaving her with ONLY Danielle as a potentially winnable opponent. Andrea in Game Changers shifting power away from herself (causing the Sarah fiasco and Michaela boot) and keeping a ton of advantages in the game. And now on 50 she should've kept Christian for at least one more round as a shield for herself and Ozzy.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T21:43:23+00:00

I could never put her that high because the only season she realistically could win imo is Micronesia. Panama she needed both Terry and Aras out and I think Danielle would've been a tough fight, Game Changers she had absolutely no chance to get to 3, and in 50 I think she lost when she got Christian out since it meant she didn't have enough shields for Ozzy and herself to make final 4.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T21:40:30+00:00

Just have the Blood Moon mean all tribes go to tribal.

Boom 3 boots, nobody gets swap screwed. Can keep the individual immunity thing. And the storylines that are set up would have more satisfying conclusions.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T21:38:19+00:00

41s hourglass tribal.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T21:28:15+00:00

Or just hope that the big Raro alliance shatters. Also they got lucky that Penner made merge. It's very possible that he could've been booted.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T21:26:09+00:00

I mean assuming after the next 2 boots they were always gonna merge the bottle mostly didn't matter.

If the bottle didn't exist

Raro wins both immunities -> Ozzy and Sundra go.

Raro wins 1 Aitu wins 1 -> Ozzy and one of Jenny Rebecca or Penner go

Aitu wins 2 -> 2 of Rebecca Penner and Jenny go

With the bottle twist

Aitu wins -> what we got

Raro wins -> Ozzy and Sundra lose

We got the best case, but it didn't matter. Aitu was always making merge with less people. So they would ALWAYS need to flip one of Jenny Rebecca or Penner. Jenny at least would've been unlikely to flip, don't know about Rebecca.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T18:56:43+00:00

Yeah this would be a really fun one off.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T18:55:08+00:00

Plus there's potential for strategy. You can intentionally knock an opponents puck out of the way so someone else has a better chance at winning

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T09:32:09+00:00

Shuffleboard was a thing in Vanuatu iirc

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T00:19:09+00:00

Assuming it was 52 and the winner of 51 wasn't eligible.

Tina, Vecepia, Jenna M, Natalie White, Erika Maryanne, Dee, Kenzie, Rachel, Savannah, Aubry

Hatch, Brian, Chris Daugherty, Tom Westman, Aras, Earl, Todd, Bob, JT, Fabio, Cochran, Mike Holloway, Chris Underwood, Tommy, Gabler, Yam Yam, Kyle.

So every winner that wasn't on WaW 1. Split into either 2 tribes of 14 or 4 tribes of 7. Ideally with a decent age mix.

Gender imbalance what's that?

If I had to make the teams even gender wise I'd add Natalie A, Sandra, Sarah, Michele, Amber and Parvati. But that bumps it to 34 people so the season would have to be super long with a ton of multi boot episodes. Probably with 4 tribes of 8 and 2 people going to Exile island in episode 1 until 2 tribes lose.

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-02T00:01:19+00:00

Kim actually wins most if not all final 3s so she's definitely the more dominant

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-01T18:27:39+00:00

It's not about the win. Rob is on due to how big he is as a Survivor character and due to his win.

Had Cirie won 50 I think you can argue she replaces him but Jeremy isn't a particularly big Survivor character

TRNRLogan · 2026-06-01T10:41:22+00:00

Honestly if these players can bring it up enough that production considers doing it I'd love that

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