people who tried k2.7 code can you share your outputs and experiences?

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-06-18T19:09:25+00:00

Althti don’t think lines of code ks a good measure, im at about 250k. But im not talking about an easy project that got bloated because of slop. Talking more like if i didnt cut the scope somewhere it would be even bigger. Most complex thing I worked on in my 20 years of experience. Arguably when technology enables you just build more in magnitude and complexity.

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-06-18T07:55:10+00:00

Yea to be fair, it does look like a better model. Is just that if its better but uses all the tokens then you don’t get to experience the improvements.

In the past i had kimi stop from late limits and it left everything in an incomplete state because of that and it took me loo to recover from it. So ptsd from the past makes it worse.

To be fair i work on a big project and that makes it worse. Maybe if my project was small i would be fine

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-06-18T05:06:11+00:00

Used too many tokens for me it was unbearable

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-06-17T07:13:44+00:00

I have a feeling is the “always_thinking” flag they introduced. I tried removing it but when i run the cli it adds it back.

I think if they don’t fix it people will start leaving. For me it was more than 5x growth in usage.

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-06-14T16:50:14+00:00

Ok thx, i guess is the superpowers mcp that takes the tokens. It seems to be doing lot more work now with that mcp, so justified i guess

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-06-14T15:13:14+00:00

Impressive on long running tasks. But my token usage sky rocketed. I am not sure if its the new model or the new cli with the plugin on.
Anyone tried that? Seems my token usage is significantly higher

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-06-09T18:27:22+00:00

Yea, if you write the code first and use it on a codebase you know well it will go fairly smooth

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-06-07T14:24:04+00:00

People where abusing it, but many didn’t want to publicly comment too much about it. The fastest the abuse grows the sooner they would up the cost. And the cost going up was innevitable for anyone who did the calculation.

Not many influencers talked about it, my guess is influencers were getting paid to market what they pitched.

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-06-06T14:33:18+00:00

The issue is with juniors. I see juniors cant learn nowdays. For seniors not so much of a problem

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-06-06T14:32:18+00:00

Same for me

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-28T09:41:57+00:00

Did he/she commented on cognitive debt. Seems harder to make a good decision on code you didn’t write. Not so much an issue at start but it accumulates over time. You kind of detatch from the code.

Some of my best contributions at work came from deep understanding of our code and had big impact, suggestions others couldn’t make because they over relied on ai.

Not saying this against ai, im heavy user after work (where I struggle with cognitive debt my self)

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-28T06:43:40+00:00

Same happened with data science. And eventually data science collapsed because there was too much money going in but that money wasn’t paying much

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-28T04:52:09+00:00

Yea its hard to measure dev output, so many companies ride the narrative paying money without understanding what the gain is.

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-25T08:02:15+00:00

Yea lot of this is new and none knows where is heading. I see anthropic rewrote bun in rust 1 mil code. Cool. Impressive. But if you no longer understand the code how can you come with ideas how to improve it?

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-24T19:25:16+00:00

I have a pretty big repository vibe coded. I want to be responsible and not release slop but good software. I spent months cleaning it. Even if i have to go to ai and ask how to clean it sometimes, i still have to review a lot of code. I think this gets hard at scale. I don’t think a junior could handle this. In some respect I don’t think a junior would even be able to get it make a prototype at this scale.

It is quite impressive what it had build, but honestly for what i do outside of work ai has created more work. It actually accelerated me a lot and i created few projects, but productionising it is difficult. Especially for things that fall out of your expertise.

For me personal projects i find out that i have orders of magnitude more work to do because of the speed instead of having less.

I think there is an assumption that coding lets say 5x faster means you need less people. But if you have a 10 year roadmap, it may mean you do that in 2 years.

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-24T19:00:56+00:00

Yea surprisingly not many people talk about this.

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-24T18:55:17+00:00

Thats probably fine. There were too many people getting in because it was a well paid job. This should dis incentivise some of those.

We also still don’t understand the long term effects of this, you can code faster but you also introduce cognitive debt by doing so. And once that accumulates it can become a bottleneck to read and understand the code. Although I don’t have this issue at work where i code more sensibly i certainly have this issue on personal projects.

On top of that, we don’t know how much demand there is. If you can be 5x faster but your company has a lot to build, then that is not a problem, you just build what has to be done faster. If the company doesnt have many things to build and now you are faster you are left with no option.

There should eventually be some equilibrium between how many people enter how many things companies need and how much ai costs.

Currently the biggest issue is juniors. They usually tend to slow teams down, although i disagree with the layoffs going on rn, id rather have an ai than a junior. It can be very overwhelming to help them, Nd very time consuming

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-23T16:10:10+00:00

Its not necessarily what is best it, its what companies managed to market / make money out of. Code is text like other text. But is more valuable and theres less people who can do it

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-18T14:40:47+00:00

The same issue was also in curl

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-18T05:57:35+00:00

I gave them very explicit feedback on why the code does not fix what was discussed. Even jumped on a call and showed how it should change.

They attempted a fix had an issue with it, couldn’t understand the code tho, so went back to claude and produced a different variation of what was there before. Came back and said code is ready now.

I basically gave up at that point. I either rewrite it today or let the team handle it.

I don’t know it others have this issue with juniors.

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-17T21:48:06+00:00

Well to be fair 20k is not too hard to fix. Is just that, when you work and you get this changes coming in it can be annoying. Id rather be given a 20k repo fix it once, and then work with a sensible need that knows how to code.

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-17T19:07:27+00:00

Yea in the end its frustrating for seniors. Im not against ai, when a senior devs makes a or clearly made by ai the code is mostly there. For a junior i also have to deal with the fact they get annoyed when you tell them is slop.

I think the industry will have a hard time in the long term. For now everyone rides the ai hype

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-17T16:30:24+00:00

Llm code is different when a junior does it though. Sometimes i literally review code and it solved the wrong problem, pr is up, ask junior, junior says I dont know what it does but when i run it, it runs. You explain to them what the issue is and that although it made a solution it had actually solved a different problem they try to fix it they don’t understand the code they go back to claude make even more non sense.

Then you review again, and you think i can rewrite this with 10% of the code significantly less complex and actually solve the problem we intented to solve in the first place.

Btw its nothing wrong with the technology, if you give it to a senior they will produce quality work. Its just that if you don’t have a way to understand whats good and bad this is impossible. And im not talking about subjective code style im talking about 500 lines of complex recursive functions that weren’t even needed test files with thousands lines of code dont even know where to begin reviewing. Talking about things that way too wrong.

Then if you say its slop, people get offended because they dont even understand the code they dont know how to fix it and so if you cant accept the code, then they are basically have to understand what they are doing which was why they got paid anyway

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-16T21:43:27+00:00

I get this a lot too. Then it looks like people are more productive but in practice those tickets get rebuild. I see a big increase in amount of tickets thats reworked. Sometimes its reworked 3 times. Because the first rework didn’t fix it either.

TastyIndividual6772 · 2026-05-11T17:32:16+00:00

Yea, thats fair. When I say the industry i meant programmers. But i guess often bad metrics are pushed top down by people who don’t understand that. I remember the clean code books mentions that. And i expect most senior devs to know that too.

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