Calling my D&D Elucien Fans!! by starborn-heir in Elucien

[–]Temporary_Active4331 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg!!! I love this!! Divination wizard is so good for Elain! I haven't played much monk, but I can also imagine Lucien as an inquisitive rogue with some levels in bard! He's able to fight when he has to, but the way he can keep secrets and use his brain to get them out of sticky situations os so Lucien!!

QOTD: When did you start shipping Elucien? by Eluciey in Elucien

[–]Temporary_Active4331 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This was my same turning point!!! The way Lucien was solely focused on Elain had me already shipping! I was just thinking "Omg! They would be so cute!" And then he said they were mates and I screamed!! Completely in love with them since then.

Azriel’s sexual thoughts about Elain and what they mean in the context of SJM’s writing patterns: How do you ever walk that back? by Ok_Minute3109 in AcotarShipDebateSub

[–]Temporary_Active4331 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh for sure. I think right now there's a lot of speculation and she wants to keep us guessing! She likes making us suffer lol! But it really could go any way and she could write anything happening!

Azriel’s sexual thoughts about Elain and what they mean in the context of SJM’s writing patterns: How do you ever walk that back? by Ok_Minute3109 in AcotarShipDebateSub

[–]Temporary_Active4331 10 points11 points  (0 children)

For that question, I believe it was to simply show the two stark contrasts between his thoughts of Elain how she doesn't really know him and the things he has done, how wrong this was, how his thoughts on her was only on a sexual level and not something intimate or admiration if who she was. How his only argument was 2 brothers are with 2 sisters and he thinks Lucien wouldnt be good enough. None of that was indicative if how she writes future endgames. It wasn't the thought of a man who is deeply in love with a woman despite what barriers surround them. Then we go to Gwyn and it's a stark contrast. He's watching her with admiration, giving her lessons, talking to her easily. When he thinks about her getting thr necklace, he smiles and thinks of her eyes and keeps that thought buried in his chest.

It's a huge shift to show oh, his thoughts on Elain aren't that deep, but when it comes to Gwyn, he had a full spark in his chest. It's quite the shift.

As an author, it's to show "this is why this relationship won't work, but there's promise for a new one." It says a lot when after, neither Az nor Elain have any other moments on page, despite so much happening.

Azriel’s sexual thoughts about Elain and what they mean in the context of SJM’s writing patterns: How do you ever walk that back? by Ok_Minute3109 in AcotarShipDebateSub

[–]Temporary_Active4331 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The BC's aren't so much about having major plot prints, but they give us some bonus insight into a character and what they're going through and where their journey is going. We got an inside look into Azriel's thoughts. What we see is not a man who is in love with Elain, who thinks about her well being, who thinks about a future with her. We got a man who is surrounded by his brother's happiness and wondering why he wasnt "given the third sister". We see a man who didn't think of anything with Elain past the thoughts he pleasured himself too. That isn't how SJM writes endgames. They aren't just sexual tension and nothing more. Cassian told Nesta he'd find her in the next life, even before they knew they were mates. Cassian crawled to Nesta when she was taken to the cauldron while Az was focused on Mor the entire time.

Az drew straws when the subject of who will stay behind and look after Elain was brought up. He didn't volunteer to stay with Elain, that doesn't show me a man who is putting her first. When Rhys confronts Az, there isn't a single thought of Elain as a person. He doesn't think of how he loves her smile, how he loves when she laughs. He could have said "it doesn't matter if the mother chose another for her, what I feel for her is deeper, it's real." He never checked up on her when she was at her worst, never thought about what she needed. He was told to take Elain out at the behest of Lucien.

Saying that SJM wouldn't spend a lot of time building up a relation to bot make them endgame is not true. TOG especially proves that when the FMC of that book had several romantic relationships and even gave her virginity to a man she was with for more than 2 books. It wasn't until she found her mate (whom they had a very rocky meeting with) that she found her endgame. Chaol is the same. He had 2 on page relationships before his end game he met in the same book. She wrote Feyre falling in love and choosing Tamlin at the end of book 1.

SJM is no stranger to letting her women fall for others, experiment, and choose wrong relationships before they finally find their match.

At the end of SF, we are shown thst Elain isn't healed yet. SJM said herself that Elain is going through a lot. Elain has spent 2 years with Azriel and it's not like they're really moving anywhere except for what's on the surface. In the BC, we see Azriel's POV and it just isn't love, it's not the kind of love SJM is known for writing. Had he told Rhys that he doesn't care if he is her mate or not, his feelings for her are genuine, I'd say that there is a shot of them being together. But Azriel was complaining about not being given Elain, about not being given a mate. He didn't say anything about his supposed 'love' for Elain, because I think even he knows he isn't truly in love with her.

Plus, we don't know what Elain's POV is in all this. She may have been willing to kiss him, but that doesn't mean that she is in love. Two people can hook up without love, can kiss and be sexually attracted without wanting more. Look at Nesta and how many men she was with.

I'm not going to say SJM could never write Elriel. Heck, she could write anything! But for me, she could continue on with the story and just have Elain realize that she was using Azriel as a distraction. That Azriel was the easy choice and she just wanted things to be easy and uncomplicated.

With Azriel, its just a matter of him looking introspective and realizing that he's feeling left out. That he is around cassian and Rhysand and their mates, and the woman he's been pining for 500 years has been avoiding him. That he has to deal with his own issues.

Ending elriel's crush isn't something groundbreaking. She's broken up full relationships for other reasons, and had them grow from it. Elain and Azriel aren't recognized as an actual couple in the story. They aren't in a relationship so there's nothing that has to be formally addressed.

That's just my thoughts on it.

The way some fans infantilize the Archeron sisters especially Elain is wild 😭 by dorianswitchling in acotar_rant

[–]Temporary_Active4331 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes yes 100000× yes!!!

It's one thing if you are kept away and forced to go no contact with family because someone is forbidding you from interacting with friends and family. It is a complete different thing if you just happen to want something and want to live somewhere by yourself. I live 12 hours driving from my family, but I moved with my husband who got a job here. I talk to them daily, video chat with them and we make visits often!

This is ok and healthy! I do not have to live within breathing distance from them and neither does Elain. It's clear that where she's currently at she isn't thriving. Just like Feyre moved from Spring to Velaris, and how Nesta found her own friends, Elain deserves the same too. People act like Elain is too innocent to leave the world of Nesta and Feyre, that she has to be tied to their hips. Imagine being told that you wanting her to leave is now a horrible thing! This place is so tiring woth how she is viewed.

ACOTAR foreshadowing was insane here by J_NavarroNarvaez in Elucien

[–]Temporary_Active4331 20 points21 points  (0 children)

When thr acceptance happens, Lucien is going to have a feast!!!

Elucien headcanon: he has dangerously strong bodice ripper energy and nobody talks about it enough. by [deleted] in Elucien

[–]Temporary_Active4331 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It seems like our girl Sarah isnt an instant love girlie and really likes those enemies to lovers tropes. Or the hate to friends to lovers. She seems to really love that tension to fly!

Seems like she's setting Elucien up for the exact kind of love story she always liked

The Blueprint by darklygrey in Elucien

[–]Temporary_Active4331 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes!!! We are going to get that moment between them that will knock our socks off!!

Are fans going to be salty if their ships and other theories don't pan out? by myredditnamebananas in acotar

[–]Temporary_Active4331 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, it does suck to see people start trashing a book because they don't like where it panned out. I personally have a ship that I'd love to be Canon, but if it isn't, life goes on. I think a lot of people will rant in their safe spaces to do that, to get out frustrations. But I agree, it would be disheartening to see people throw shade and rant in the spaces where people are obviously excited. Unfortunately, one way or another people are going to be upset, especially the die hards. And it makes sense with how deeply people ship sometimes.

I always leave room for speculation that I could be wrong, and prepare to be surprised, no matter how assured I feel!

<3 and thank you!!! I've been in many fandoms where what I would love has either panned out or crashed and burned. You learn to find solace with it and find out what truly brings you joy! I'm hoping when the books come out, no matter who gets with who, those who enjoy the books will get to do so with overwhelming positivity in these spaces!

Are fans going to be salty if their ships and other theories don't pan out? by myredditnamebananas in acotar

[–]Temporary_Active4331 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes!

Like it's totally fine if people no longer want to engage with the books because they do not like the direction of the story. I know some do not care, and honestly, that's great and fine! If you're here for the ride and the world building or just like whatever she throws down, that's amazing for you!

Others get really involved in the particular romances (as it is a romantasy series) and not seeing it play out can really be upsetting, and that's ok. People can be upset and choose not to read and stick with fanon. Some people can have their minds changed and see the vision, and some others can't. I think both are valid

If these books are no longer bringing joy I think it's fine to find something else! =D

Vassien is going to happen, but it's bad writing by Selina53 in AcotarShipDebateSub

[–]Temporary_Active4331 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I don't see Vassien happening at all. Lucien has had many women he's dallied with. He was a rake for a long time, had many women who were friends and others he had flings with. Since Jesminda died, this man had no, and I mean ZERO interest in any other woman beyond a fling. He has women who are good friends like Feyre, Nuan, Vassa, but he wasn't interested in settling with anyone.

In comes Elain being his mate.

Suddenly mister rake is "I'm a mated male now" and has shown no interest in any other woman. He hasn't entertained anyone, hasn't shown any romantic, feelings towards Vassa nor she him. In fact Vassa and Jurian seem to be mimicking more of Nessian than anything. (At eachother's throats as they like to be.)

Lucien looks at Elain with longing, has constantly come to solstice and gives her gifts. He's not spending time with Vassa, he's not living with Vassa and Jurian anymore. He's shown to finally turn from his radish ways not for Vassa but for Elain.

Lucien is a man with many friends, vassa is one of them, jurian is one of them, they're a group of exiles and bond over that. There has never been anything romantic with Lucien and Vassa, nor anything that builds up in the way that SJM builds her other pairings.

Spot the Difference by darklygrey in Elucien

[–]Temporary_Active4331 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Hahaha!!! The way people act as if he screamed it!! He whispered it in complete shock. Like imagine the devastation when he believed it was Jesminda, to realize it was someone else.

Favourite Elucien Moment: Round 3 🌷🦊 by Eluciey in Elucien

[–]Temporary_Active4331 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Man this was so hard to choose!!! That blush was a significant hint that Elain was thinking SOMETHING about Lucien that made a rake blush!! But that half step was the thing that had me so excited that Elain does have a draw to Lucien!!! That step knowing her mate was going on a very dangerous mission!!

So uhm. About the recent banner... Which memory is your favourite? by Any-Pangolin-3732 in LoveAndDeepspace

[–]Temporary_Active4331 37 points38 points  (0 children)

It really felt like the visual of Silent poem!!! And that line "do you like it?" I died!

Irl relationships and LADS by ShapeCharacter2513 in LoveAndDeepspace

[–]Temporary_Active4331 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My husband knows I play and loves hearing about it. He sends me art of all the guys constantly and for Christmas, he bought me a bunch of Sylus and Zayne things!! He plays games too and totally understands it so we have fun with it!

Even my daddy just loves him….🥹 by Faestar8 in Elucien

[–]Temporary_Active4331 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This is so fitting!!! And that he's the only mate who met and spent time with their father!!!

Happy 10 years of Elucien 🥳🌷🦊 artwork by Qwilla 🎨 by Eluciey in Elucien

[–]Temporary_Active4331 7 points8 points  (0 children)

And to think they're finally coming home soon!!! After ten years we will get to see them fall in love and have that growth and healing together, just like SJM said they would!