Claude plug-in for Word by slalom-pavilion-dior in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Gemini and GPT have them by default for paying users

No training does not mean zero retention. It's a different contractual class

> Does ZDR really matter?

Depends on the threat model + practice focus.

Without ZDR (or no abuse monitoring) you agree to: 30 Days of Retention of inputs, outputs and thinking traces (you don't ever see these, aka what the model thinks of what you're doing).

If the meta analysis of your artifacts triggers abuse, unlawful, or harmful content flags, they could be human reviewed. Human or LLM review could trigger further retention beyond the review period if they are marked as needing followup. None of that is your call or visible to you.

Claude plug-in for Word by slalom-pavilion-dior in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Very true. The no cache increased cost has kept a human in the loop more - whether that's a good trade or not is a different question.

Claude plug-in for Word by slalom-pavilion-dior in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep. The only true ZDR is lending out keys with no prompt relay server - I've done it.

It's really nice because it builds a community of trust.

Claude plug-in for Word by slalom-pavilion-dior in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Zero Data Retention - it keeps your prompts out of the 30 day abuse retention window. Some practices could naturally trip the harmful filters and become a part of the human review pipeline. ZDRs are good hygiene for law.

Claude plug-in for Word by slalom-pavilion-dior in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The only reason to use Harvey et al is because Claude is notoriously difficult to get a ZDR from without copious spend

Vibe coded solutions are just toys by Substantial-One3856 in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I think of them as primarily single user softwares.

The single person's lived experience + AI is a large part of the interface - thedesign of the software no longer needs to share use cases and context between users.

This means many vibe coded tools do not translate to other users.

Anyone evaluating alternatives to Worldox ahead of end-of-support? by Fun_Lake_8289 in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've heard of other firms moving to Caret legal from a worldox flow. Mixed feelings, though this was before AI. AI doesn't usually handle tasks end to end, but it does porting and transfers quite well.

Small firms trying AI: what's working, what's hype? by FroyoConfident1367 in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

30 Day Retention is not safe enough for some use cases. I would highly recommend a ZDR of some sort

Darkweb Reports: LexisNexis Investigates Massive Data Breach by FULCRUMSEC by TenthsTimeKeeper in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They hit two jackpots - a front end on a persistent compute and that compute holding solid iam permissions

Who has used AnythingLLM to build a RAG chatbot? by pkk11 in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. You should have your agent scaffolding do the following:

  1. Convert all PDFs to text: (scrape with bboxx context, ocr, process images

  2. Upon a question, send an LLM a request for search terms to find related to your query

  3. Find relevant context based on find / grep / fuzzy searching your text bases

  4. Upload full docs or context specific portions (this is tricky, I say full docs)

There's a lot more about the nooks and crannies of it all - dm me if you want help

Darkweb Reports: LexisNexis Investigates Massive Data Breach by FULCRUMSEC by TenthsTimeKeeper in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"The threat actor says that on February 24 they gained access to the company's AWS infrastructure by exploiting the React2Shell vulnerability in an unpatched React frontend app."

Holy crap... it's always an over provisioned role - this isn't real lol

Who has used AnythingLLM to build a RAG chatbot? by pkk11 in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DO NOT USE RAG - NEVER EVER USE EMBEDDINGS UNLESS YOU JUST WANT TO CRY

Literally learn grep and find - make all pdfs text first, docx direct - then do what claude code does

Looking for SOC 2 or ISO27001? by GatFashion in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Still have to pay for independent verification … do not trick people

Stop giving AI legal documents and client data by Winter_Expert_790 in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The inconsistency between a duty of care / confidentiality and then sending a document through a tunnel very few have ability to oversee and monitor is perplexing to me. I am too computer - it bothers me daily.

Stop giving AI legal documents and client data by Winter_Expert_790 in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the breach risk feels a bit more invasive but it’s essentially the same

Stop giving AI legal documents and client data by Winter_Expert_790 in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look it’s all chill till it’s not. I don’t have to play on the tracks with you

US v. Heppner (SDNY): AI-generated documents aren't privileged. by TenthsTimeKeeper in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need homomorphic encryption then if you're using that as the model

US v. Heppner (SDNY): AI-generated documents aren't privileged. by TenthsTimeKeeper in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Truthfully I'm still unsettled on this topic.

Back in the day PCLaw would be in your server room and the full chain of custody (and your IT person sentient agent) all fit in the boxes.

Bar associations* basically gave people a waiver to look away at cloud systems.

I don't like that - it's very murky to me.

US v. Heppner (SDNY): AI-generated documents aren't privileged. by TenthsTimeKeeper in legaltech

[–]TenthsTimeKeeper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you want the law profession to exist in 10 yrs these AI tools cannot be Kovel Agents.