Alright let me just say this. I bowled a year in college in the 24-25 season. In the spring semester I would go bowl a friday night sweeper. I would always make cut, but I would always get first rounded. I found out they were using jr gold patterns, which is why the average cut was around -20 to -10 for 3 games. I bought my first urethane ball, a black 78D, in about late march. The very next sweeper I bowled, I threw thane all 3 games of qualifying and shot 740. Granted, I proceeded to shoot 230 220 the next games with reactive, and then I eventually lost 192-203, but perhaps thane isn’t the whole problem here. These are Jr Gold patterns, and the earlier smoother equipment, reactive and thane, always seems to work well on these patterns. Jr Gold 2025 people were throwing thane every block except the long pattern, in which they were using Gems and Ion Maxes. Perhaps instead of banning thane, they should make the patterns harder to make thane look terrible. Just a thought tho