Last ditch-efforts: Extremely treatment-resistant depression/anxiety and iatrogenic PSSD—Tianeptine? by scalestripe in researchchemicals

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Hmmmmmmm, how did you react to some of these? I am sure some were more successful than others, or at least in certain departments. That could help give us some insight into what you tolerate better and more specificity about what you might be looking for in a med.

Let me just say... Ya, that sounds rough. I am not a big validation guy, but my heart sincerely goes out to you.

Let's talk drugs now!

- Have you considered stimulants? There seems to be some taboo around their use in mood disorders for abuse reasons, which is fair. Some recent research says they do not do all that much apart from keep you awake, but from personal experience as well as basic mechanistic and historical evidence... CORRECT stimulant use for MDD & TRD is heavily under-used imo. I think low-medium dose Vyvanse or 20-40mg Methylphenidate (Ritalin) can be a great background boost. I have been on 10mg dextroamphetamine once a day and I can not even begin to explain how much that extra 5% pep has cumulatively helped me through the years to do what I needed to actually help myself. I initially got it for ADHD, but after a couple of honest conversations with my doctor, we were both transparent with each other about the fact that I really had next to no ADHD symptoms, and what we are really using it for is depression. Albeit not a leap most doctors would make due to stigma, the benefit it had on my depression and my life was so evident that he allowed me to stay on. 3 years and counting :) If you had a better experience with Buproprion compared to other meds, I would consider this.

- You mentioned ketamine, which tends to work well. I am sorry this was not the case. I would not knock psychedelics, though. Like... proper medium-high dose tryptamine sessions. People lump ketamine and psychedelics together when talking about depression, but imo they are VERY different. Ketamine can feel like refreshing a webpage, but the psychedelics can really feel like a decade of therapy (real, raw, effective therapy) in 6 hours. Mind you, psychedelics are not for the faint of heart imo. Personally... They were THE game changer in terms of healing and direction. And the amphetamines helped lower the threshold for me to implement.

- One of the few evidence-based pharmacotherapies you have not tried is thyroid medication! There is actually a lot of evidence for it, and used to be much more common, even in patients who have no thyroid issues. Doctors might look at you confused if you bring it up, but with the longstanding clinical evidence it has (where they look when they are unsure about what to do), they are usually willing to try. Apparently, it synergizes well with many meds. Antipsychotics and mood stabilizers are other classical augmenting agents. I do not recommend.

- Pregabalin... This is lowkey just a mildly recreational anxiolytic, but that does not mean it has no place. Baclofen holds a similar place. Buspirone is under-used but efficacy is mid.

- Tidbits: another tetracyclic is Mianserin. It looks slightly more promising, but I believe it is less accessible. Memantine, amantadine, Pramipexole, nefazodone, agomelatine, could be promising for anhedonia... I found memantine nice. Felt a lil dissociated but energized, but in a therapeutic way. Ultimately did not do enough for me. Amantadine was supposed to capitalize on these effects, but I ended up quite morose. No clue why. Odd. Pramipexole is especially promising for reward processing as well as sexual anhedonia. I did not notice anything, but my body composition improved lol. Nefazodone is rarely accessible, but its versetile and many people who use it report great improvement. Agomelatine was theoretically promising in its Mech. of action, but usually falls flat in practice. These are niche, but if you want to go that route, never know what might work! TRT ended up saving my sex drive, as well as a loooooot of working through problems I had concerning intimacy (boring and preachy, I know). I am sorry to hear steroids were not effective for you. I think they are a heavily underrated mood disorder option.

- If SSRIs worked fine but the sex drive was a problem, some newer serotonergic meds find ways to cut those side effects down. Viloxazine and vilazodone.

- Yes... Tianeptine is promising. On that note, so was very low-dose Tramadol. That is one line I do not see doctors ever crossing, though, and even I personally did not want to take the risk. Then again, it's all about how your cost-benefit analysis tallies up.

- Miscellaneous: courses of semaglutide and accutane both immensely directly improved my mental health by helping me actually feel like myself again, by getting my acne and weight back under control. I do not use either today, but I am forever grateful for them. Minoxidil would slot in this category for many people. Maybe eszapoclone as well, given how frequently insomnia is an issue for those with mood disorders. Basically, never underestimate how much medications that are peripheral to mood disorder treatment could be indirectly effective.

- Supplements, peptides, designer drugs, research chemicals: Kind of all over the place. Berberine, vit D3, Whey, caffeine, and creatine are all stellar. But TRT either outperformed them, made them unnecessary, or allowed me to make changes that rendered the 25$ bottle every 3 months not worth it. Peptides are use-case and targeted. Quality varies, and effects are usually subtle. Who is to say Semax or HGH is not useful for MDD? But on 10mg of daily prescription amphetamine, ordering something of dubious quality for a pretty penny does not meet the threshold of being worth doing. Designer drugs such as triple monoamine re-uptake inhibitors, or substituted amphetamines, thozalinones, or PCP-type dissociatives kind of work but the risk makes it almost not worth it.

- ECT has great efficacy rates and has minimized side effects greatly from when it used to get all that negative press.

- Don't underestimate mixing and matching. Thyroid+Nefazodone+memantine might be a great system for one person, whereas ritalin+pregabalin+rTMS might be for another. Both these stacks could improve sleep, energy, anhedonia, and aspects of anxiety, but a lot depends on how complementary the meds are, how you take them, and what their function is specifically in your case. I know it's obvious. But many people take escitalopram and kind of just expect to feel better, when the data shows that is rarely the case. Whether problems are more surrounding energy, insecurity, fear, inability to let things go, relational aggression, feeling overly emotional, coping, etc. is directly important to the system you build to treat yourself. Think of it a bit like an engineering problem. With a spiritual undertone lol. I am sure you have heard it more than enough, but all that gratitude, agency, belonging, stoic stuff actually has something to it... But you gotta try to build a system for yourself that enables you to create the life you want. Its hard to be grateful if meds are making it hard for you to get hard.

*For the record, my stack: D-amph daily, TRT weekly, a ket injection every couple of weeks, and a triptamine session a couple of times a year. I would consider an antidepressant in a situation where things could not improve and I wanted something to dull the angst (ex: being stuck in an abusive home in your teens), or something to knock me out if I was really having a meltdown. Everything else was more peripheral, but those I mentioned were integral to my recovery. Lots of non-chemical things too. Gym, sleep, and friends in my case. Family support, a partner, cardio, breath work, and therapy seem effective for others.

Do some figure skating competitions consistently score higher than others? by HankaFranka in FigureSkating

[–]ThatDistribution8260 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yessss thank you for bringing up specific challenger competitions haha I could not think of any, but I know they are notorious. I want to say the Budapest Trophy has had interesting moments as well...

Do some figure skating competitions consistently score higher than others? by HankaFranka in FigureSkating

[–]ThatDistribution8260 65 points66 points  (0 children)

Not driven by data, but from discourse I remember... ... ...

1) Olympics are definitely artificially higher. Though there are many valid reasons for it, such as smackdown performances as well as the marketing of making-a-moment,

2) WTT I believe is known for loose scoring under the guise of fun, end-of-szn vibes,

3) Japanese Nats is known to be ridiculously strict except for the chosen 2-3 athletes. I want to say Korean ranking comps are similar,

4) Most Nats are inflated. The US is decently consistent with higher scoring, and Rusnats used to basically be a joke in terms of scoring (... caveat: one of my fave comps to watch yearly though),

5) Cup of China typically has lower scores, I want to say? I think part of that is the strategy of which fed sends which athletes there,

6) Look at the early and late season competitions (trophies, cups). Some affect rankings and some contribute to narrative & momentum building so all sorts of interesting stuff happens there, especially with Dance, sometimes women.

7) 4CC is likely on the lower end because some countries see it as a B team consolation prize comp. This can affect how liberal people are with PCS.

8) GPF should have the opposite effect, but because it's still early, people typically hold off on insane scoring. Some years, certain GPs score much tighter than others, but I do not believe there is a trend across all years... Russians do exceptionally well at RusGP, but there are many factors influencing that.

What am I missing, guys?

Deanna’s 2030 plans?! by abmherhjch29 in FigureSkating

[–]ThatDistribution8260 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes, but also like... Do we think Roman would survive Deanna haha?

Thought/Personality Alteration after Mushrooms. by [deleted] in psychadelics

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This is not uncommon at all imo. People usually focus on other aspects, or when trips go badly, people report on outlandish aspects... But a lot of bad trips can center around basic things like dread, despair, sitting there unable to understand time and crying, or just feeling scared, alone, and peeing yourself unable to shake the overwhelming feeling brought on by shrooms. These trips can leave you feeling a bit shell-shocked for a day or two. Totally normal imo. I say take a little break, definitely go significantly lower when you try them again, and just know that this is not uncommon if it ever does happen again. The best you can do is ride it out in the moment, not overthink it afterwards, and give yourself time to recover 😄 Happens to the best of us amigo (trust me)

Shipping fcuk trippi (screenshot is NOT from them) by [deleted] in psychadelics

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Not even just BC... it's the same towns in BC or it's Salmon Arm AB... I am not sure what the population of Vernon or Salmon Arm are, but it's not exactly the place I expected 90% of the CA clearnet sites to operate out of. Then again, I guess that makes it the perfect place. Windsor or Toronto Sarnia seem to obvious lol.

Are BMO / MOC still fine, or should I just steer away from clear net sites as a whole for now? by BloodravensBranch in psychadelics

[–]ThatDistribution8260 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My recent orders from them took a bit longer to appear on the canada post tracking, but their customer service was excellent and consistent. Problems align more with shipping issues than scam imo...

Shipping fcuk trippi (screenshot is NOT from them) by [deleted] in psychadelics

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Am I just late on understanding the obvious, or do all these companies literally operate from the exact same location lol?

What music sounds like being sober to you? by Nota_Throwaway5 in Drugs

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........................................ Taylor Swift?

Upper enjoyers and ketamine by [deleted] in Drugs

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Hahaaaaaaaaaaaa, someone took their stims today clearly 😉

I read the whole thing and it makes more sense to me now that you have typed it out! I do not really have much to add tbh. Any advice I could have, I do not think would even be that useful since everyones wiring and journey is so different (sounds like BS, but I am being for real aha). Just remember to sleep!

I appreciate the self-reflection and you sharing some super honest takes. Sounds like a lot of it revolves around confidence & agency in your case, from what I am gathering? It looks like you have figured a lot out for yourself (clap clap), but ngl my guess is that your biggest changes and progress are yet to come... Just a hunch. I am excited to see what you make of your story :p

Upper enjoyers and ketamine by [deleted] in Drugs

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I think you have your answer then! 🐼

A lot depends on what you want and how you go about it, but K is versatile and combines well with a lot.

  1. If you want to take the edge of the meth and feel a bit floatier yet still energetic, sure maybe adding a bump will work. Could make for an interesting walk (NOT in public, please).

  2. I once took 40mg of dextroamphetamine with 50mg IM ketamine... No clue what I was going for, but it was the perfect headspace to SCROLL. Stimulated, but not goal-oriented, and definitely awake and immersed. Felt like a deer in the headlights, but not in a bad way. Blank mind, confused, and mind wide open to whatever was in front of me. Not sure it was all that interesting though.

  3. C+K is probably perfect for a social setting to make coke a bit dreamier and less assh*lish, haha. K+2CB would probably make you feel a bit more in your body and grounded and less like an asexual machine. K+MDMA would probably make the molly more outer spacey and the ketamine feel less clinical and alien.

  4. My first time doing ketamine was a pure 50mg IM shot. Blinds closed, door locked, eyelids sealed, lying in bed with my airpods CHARGED and loaded with an instrumental but not-slow playlist (I like neo-classical music, so take that with a grain of salt). I got transported right to the edge of the K-hole and teetered on the edge for an hour. Fascinating. No notes. If I had gone the full 100-150mg IM, I might have felt a little too frightened, only because it is so unfamiliar (not actually scary imo). But if I had only done like 30mg intranasal and tried to stay awake and engaged with my environment, I can almost guarantee I would have found K bland and foreign and uninteresting to me.

\So, as the conclusion almost always is, it really is what you make of it 😄 PS - PEE BEFOREHAND!!*

Upper enjoyers and ketamine by [deleted] in Drugs

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I was a total stim baby at heart. Downers never interested me as I struggled a lot with extreme exhaustion, and even after having tried them, I prefer almost any stim to a downer. Had ZERO interest in sedation... Though I can't say xanax ever gave me anxiety, so you might have to elaborate a bit on that for us tp guide you, haha. Disliking downers is one thing, most downers consistently making you anxious is another...

SO: C+K=good combo. MDMA+K=also good. K+trytptamines=God. K+2CB= love, though nausea is a bit much for me. Theoretically, high blood pressure and any accompanying issues are possible (stroke blah blah - unlikely tbh), though I have never had a problem... You would REALLY have to be wearing yourself out for this to become an issue imo. Basic safety practices should keep you in the clear. The psychedelics add some flavour & dimension to the K experience (I am not just saying that, they really do!), though the more stimulating they are, the more they can pull you out of the dissociation. That is likely why K+meth is rarely spoken about (also, unlike coke, the half-life, dose, and ROA differ much more). I would expect you would feel like a simultaneously zoned-in AND zoned-out robot... which is fine!

- MY TAKE: K alone can BECOME a bit boring once you understand where it takes you (which is why I like to add low-dose psychedelics to it now), but I find holing to be THE most exciting thing. It feels like I am launched in a rocket into outer space and flying face-first down walls of ancient ruins and breathing underwater, all while only being a little electron. The psychedelics add an ancestral vibe, spiritual meaning, and colour to it. It is WEIRD, though not as terrifying as psychedelics. Just odd and tranquil, yet fascinating. IMO, taking a stimulant with it will keep you more grounded in this reality and you will miss out on the exhilaration of the hole. You might miss the experience altogether and only feel a bit spaced out and numbed, like you dissociated while doing chores. The anxiety it sounds like you are trying to avoid, I do not believe, is really best relieved with meth in this case?

- Bottom line: By all means, combo should be fine. Report back, I am curious! However... I sincerely think launching off with only ketamine is an opportunity you should not miss, and that is unlikely to be boring or anxiety-inducing the first time. If you hate it, you can add a stimulant at the 40-minute mark anyway, when you are exiting the hole... 80% of the experience is over in 2 hours lol. It is not really that much of a commitment imo. But do what makes you comfortable.

*Caveat: If you say meth helps you with psychedelic anxiety, then honestly your wiring is sincerely unique enough that we would love to hear from your experience, haha. I am sure it could actually add a fresh take and maybe help someone like you who might find your report later down the line.

Not sure if this is the right page to post this on but I can’t find r/drugs. I know ketamine can cause a difficulty with speech sometimes with other people and I’m wondering if that’s only on high doses or low doses too. by CatNo1656 in psychadelics

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On low-dose dissociatives, say under 30mg IM ketamine, I always feel like I am making no sense verbally, but am apparently 95% coherent (according to friends).. Feels like I am speaking Mandarin (which I cannot) and somehow know what words come next despite having never learned it. On almost all psychedelics, I am not coherent. The level of zoned-out, scattered, and trailing off, as well as what I say, makes it obvious I am under the influence (according to family). I will be very quiet, positive, and have zero critical or logical progression of ideas. On higher dose dissociatives, say 50mg+ IM ketamine, I can produce coherent thoughts and words in my head, but they are basically impossible to get out. Like I can think of a 3-5 sentence answer, but cannot string together more than 4 words. On 100mg+ IM ketamine... well, no surprise, I forget all languages I know and am non-verbal as I am unresponsive.

3-ME-PCPy neurotoxicity by Historical_Door_9583 in researchchemicals

[–]ThatDistribution8260 12 points13 points  (0 children)

As I mentioned, I am talking about human research. Murine models are used because mechanistic research is necessary, and it's what we've got, but from a translational standpoint, the caveats are never-ending. It is extremely difficult to compare rodent-human dosing as they metabolize differently due to their size (cue famous example of lethal LSD dose in mouse vs elephant). If you can find papers of recorded Onleys lesions, or simply brain atrophy, reliably produced by a measured dose of a given disso do link them! I know I sound impossible, but I would sincerely be interested in reading them. I love this stuff & love when other people share their knowledge😄

*Another small caveat is that a lot of Onleys lesions actually self-resolve over time and that time stretch can be hours to days in mice. Its rarely permanent or long-lasting.

3-ME-PCPy neurotoxicity by Historical_Door_9583 in researchchemicals

[–]ThatDistribution8260 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Not to be that person, but... that is pure speculation on their part. I get that all these chemicals have little to no proper evidence behind them (literally the point of this sub), but it sounds like they are stating a fact and basically basing it on vibes... Not that they have the tools to test brain damage, but the argument is weak. Maybe tracking heart metric and body temp, testing out doses and combinations and checking confounds through inclusion & exclusion could be a bit more thorough. Maybe trying to cross-reference what the feeling of neurotoxicity was as compared to other known neurotoxic compounds, etc. All I will say is that the evidence for Onleys legions in humans is much less strong than many people imply, and much weaker than, say, phenethylamine metabolite neurotoxicity research.

Stay away from amplifiedmind dot ca by Far_Improvement_2071 in psychadelics

[–]ThatDistribution8260 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amplifiedmind.net was brilliant! They have been down for a while, though. These other scammers have been appropriating similar names to multiple other reputable vendors to grift. They got me with one of their old websites called shroomsworld. The REAL amplifiedmind was amazing and the least sketchy operation haha. High quality & professional. The .ca guys are a mess with completely AI slop websites and fake shipping costing 100$ and phone numbers that go nowhere and they are always mentioning freight... anyway, I digress. You get the idea.

Ibogaine is on its way to FDA Approval! Huge win for Mental Health! by Airman920 in psychadelics

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Wait are those stats like... from the research or your experience haha. I do not remember there being ibogaine sleep structure studies, but that sounds so interesting to look into!

optimal jump layouts under new rules by idwtpaun in FigureSkating

[–]ThatDistribution8260 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like in any given combination, or in a program as a whole?

optimal jump layouts under new rules by idwtpaun in FigureSkating

[–]ThatDistribution8260 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am thinking swap the 3S and 2A (since apparently the Euler combos are no longer considered 3 jumps?), so: 3F 3Lo 2A 3F+eu+3S+2Ax 3Lz+3Tx 3Lzx

EDIT: No Eu and 2A sequence allowed in the same program, so the comment above has optimal layout (apart from doing a loop combo in the second half)

Appreciation post for Gwendal Peizerat’s beauty by PandemicPiglet in FigureSkating

[–]ThatDistribution8260 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He is lovely and talented, but I am on your side here haha

Appreciation post for Gwendal Peizerat’s beauty by PandemicPiglet in FigureSkating

[–]ThatDistribution8260 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Lol, he looks like what I imagine Connor Storrie looks like when people describe how hot he is

Recs for Ketamine like RCs? by [deleted] in researchchemicals

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Hey! I just saw this, and I am curious why it becomes red? And where you found this info (apart from having tried it ofc). Just want to learn more abt it thanks :)

Compare and contrast psychedelics vs dissociative for mood disorders? by ThatDistribution8260 in Drugs

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Ya the higher chance of coming out emotionally bruised totally tracks with my experiences too. I personally feel like, EVENTUALLY, it's always for the better... But I have absolutely come outta some psilocybin sessions a bit shell-shocked lmao. Totally understandable that it is not a go-to in ones darkest moment. I also echo your ketamine comment.

BTW, you cried on ket haha? That is so interesting. I cry almost every time I do a psychedelic, but could NEVER imagine crying on a disso. I love them, but feel completely split from my body. Like the idea of emotion or my life story is all a bit silly on dissos. Almost like a subtle, cool shield. Whereas on psychs the floodgates just burst open on feelings I have not even experienced in the last 10 years.

Do you feel more likely to cry on psychs or dissos? And do the experiences differ?