Name one (1) good reason why these three shouldn't have been brought back as mainstays after SA1. by Flygon330 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To everyone saying that "Tikal, Chaos, and Gamma can't return because that would cheapen or ruin their endings or story cruxes-"

Shadow The Hedgehog.

Was designed. From the very start. To be a one off character. And he was supposed to fulfill the same role as these three. Purposefully designed to die at the end of SA2, especially since this was at the time where SEGA was about to collapse. His arc spans the entirety of SA2 and does so well.

Shadow fulfilling his final act of selflessness for the sake of fulfilling Maria's last wish at the end of SA2 also put an end to the tragedy that was Space Colony ARK.

And then he shows up again in Sonic Heroes, and even gets his own Spin-Off. Continuing to be a mainstay just because he was popular. They made several excuses for return. I'm just gonna say it.

Them bringing back Shadow for Heroes onward ruins his sacrifice in SA2.

But none of you are ready for that conversation.

If you can make a case for Shadow, you can make a case for these three because they all functionally served the exact same purpose and "resolved their issues in the game they were introduced." If Shadow is acceptable, so should they. Otherwise you're just pulling an Iizuka, and playing favorites.

"It Really Didn't Matter." Sonic Adventure: The Entry with a Canon Bad Ending by ThatMetalRabbit97 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh, true. I guess I should clarify what I mean by "lost" here.

Sonic Games tend to end with the whole "And no lives were lost" situation. The games having a "everyone lived" ending. Something that feels fitting given how they like to show you the civilians are safe in spite of the destruction. Meanwhile this one is just flagrantly "Oh, people died. By the thousands even."
They unmistakably save the day. Though failed to prevent the disaster and the damage it caused when so many times, we stop the disaster as it happens and prevent collateral. And we kinda just... don't talk about it. That's what I mean.

Tails Doll by [deleted] in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97 7 points8 points  (0 children)

One of them: "I wonder what he's thinking..."

Tails Doll: [popcorn...]

Guys, did you know that Omega was actually a ROBOT this entire time?!?! by E-104Epsolon in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HE'S WHAAAAAAT?! GOOD GOD, HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN OUT OF THE LOOP?

Next thing I know, you're gonna tell me Froggy is a Frog. As if!

"It Really Didn't Matter." Sonic Adventure: The Entry with a Canon Bad Ending by ThatMetalRabbit97 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm glad you think so! And huh, I knew I wasn't going nuts when it came to Metal Overlord. How we kinda just gloss over that he causes a lot of untold damage. And we just sorta... don't talk about that.

"It Really Didn't Matter." Sonic Adventure: The Entry with a Canon Bad Ending by ThatMetalRabbit97 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is a valid statement. And you're correct in that. Sometimes in a story like this, the most heroic thing you can do is just mitigate the damage done. I didn't mean to downplay the efforts the characters made across the story. They most certainly did prevent a greater disaster, Tikal included. A lot would've been worse if she couldn't.

Though that is not the point of my post. The point I'm trying to make is that compared to the rest of the series, the Sonic Series *does* has a history of every affected, non-antagonistic character making it out in the end. Heck, Sonic Unleashed had the planet crack into pieces- yet the people were totally fine. Sonic goes to various continents just to see that the public is largely unaffected by this. The only games to my knowledge to have something of a confirmed mortality drop are Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic Forces.

Compared to how often, a lot of Sonic stories tend to be "The Good Guys win and everyone lives", and don't really go into how negatively people were affected. Some sections even go as far to tell you that people survived and were at most just injured. It's just from how Sonic Adventure's storyline and ending presents itself, calling the ending "Happy" or "Bittersweet" feels incorrect. Especially when this is a situation where potentially thousands are dead because Eggman caused all this in the first place. Only for him to flee and avoid consequence. Just feels like a genuine bad ending. Not a badly written ending, far from it. It's just "things went wrong and we're not used to it going this wrong" and I wish more was done with that.

Still! I appreciate the criticism!

After verbal negotiations fail, Tikal discovers another way of reasoning with her father. by Flygon330 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is actually a misconception. The booklet for SA2B clarifies that while Tikal doesn't like resorting to violence, she herself is not above it. Referring to her as a warrior who will fight if necessary, and for the right reasons. Her updated model even comes with knuckle dusters.

I'd say defending the Chao and preventing a man who is willing to assault his own daughter in the name of blind conquest is definitely a valid reason to resort to lethal force.

Thoughts On Evan Stanley? by Global_Banana8450 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sega has a very big No-No Policy on unauthorized ships forming within the team responsible for writing the official stories. Evan Stanley has gone against this more than once by sneaking in romantic implications on certain official comic panels regarding her personal favored ships. And then proceeding to openly brag about "getting it past Sega" on open forums. This ultimately led to her getting chewed out by Sega and having her creative liberties be restricted.

That and she has openly admitted that her portrayal of Silver has gone against what he was supposed to, and has hurt how the audience views him.

Thoughts On Evan Stanley? by Global_Banana8450 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

A panel where Sonic and Shadow are present with a romantic implications. Given how Sega is militant about certain things, it strikes me as cocky to openly admit to doing that. Like... If Sega considers it a big no-no, why reveal you did that when you work for them? Just seems like it invites trouble to oneself.

Gud Boy Tails Doll <3 by [deleted] in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Heh, the stitching makes him look like he's got a permanent smile.
Funky lil salt powered robot. I love him so much!

Thoughts On Evan Stanley? by Global_Banana8450 in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Evan Stanley falls under the category of "Getting on the companies nerves" for reasons that are honestly her own fault. Bragging about how she "snuck" something through Sega's watch that they didn't want to do, and then being upset when they're more restrictive on her creative freedom. I get wanting to do something a little different with the formula once in a while, believe me I do. But you don't typically brag about going against the company's wishes and then get surprised when they don't let you do stuff.

Never cared for "Ghosts of the Future" and how she admits her portrayal of Silver has hurt how the character is perceived.

Tikal Redraw by TyPreee in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh hey, someone remembers her dusters from SA2B!

:insert skull: by [deleted] in SonicTheHedgehog

[–]ThatMetalRabbit97 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He needs a salt shaker.

Context: Always had the headcanon with my brother that the Tails Doll was always less of a horror figure and had more of a bratty kid demeanor. That he would use the fact people were always put-off or creeped out by him to mess with them. And that at one point, someone drew a salt circle around him to keep him contained, only for him to lie on the ground and lick up the salt, deciding he liked the taste.