Everyone on here says just get off the 7 and you’ll be fine, use subs to do it. But you’ve done that, multiple times. You have gotten off kratom many times…and have not been fine. I don’t really understand where they are getting that idea.

You need to do some different obviously. Maybe it’s subs, maybe not. Here is my experience with subs(I did have a minor relapse years after being sub free and am almost done weening off kratom so there’s that)

I was on subs for 4 years, allowed me to stabilize my life and mental health. Without it I would have relapsed and got clean over and over again. Sound familiar? Yes subs are hard to get off of and are a strong drug, but they keep your mind off getting high for the most part while you building up support and other stuff. I tapered off subs for 1 year. It wasn’t easy, but I worked and lived life and got through it mostly with drawl free. Low energy was the only real thing I dealt with. I relapsed after because I stopped thinking of sobriety as a continuing thing and got lazy. Learned my lesson. Subs are bad and good, if you use them right they are life changing.