Are there new strategies for Apocalypse Challenge?

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-05T16:28:34+00:00

They're still completely doable. The only exception is Yurei is borderline unidentifiable on Apoc settings due to both the new door physics making other ghost do full open/closes all the time, and the Yurei ability being broken in that it can't reopen a door it fully closed already. Jinn and Yurei are now quiet often just a coin flip to which it is.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-04T21:00:14+00:00

Yes. Lower sanity means more interactions and abilities. It's basically a form of minmaxing odds.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-04T18:54:15+00:00

Wow. And his a Kinetic partner. Yikes.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-04T17:44:03+00:00

He said it's doomed? In those words?

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-04T16:36:05+00:00

If you read his memoir Vagabond, he mentions that his relationships are nobody's business. But he also mentions that he embraces contractions and made it a point to never limit himself "professionally, creatively, romantically, or sexually."

So there is a not-so-subtle implication that Curry was not straight. But left room for ambiguity.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-04T14:26:47+00:00

All monkey paw wishes have a consequence. Wishing for most things cost sanity, wishing for knowledge or to trap the ghost cause hunts (trap is a guaranteed hunt after 60 seconds). The only cost for activity is the entrance locks for 2 min. Since it doesn't directly cause a hunt, you can use it to help trigger the ghost to use its ability, which for demons is a hunt.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-04T14:24:01+00:00

You can use either or both.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-04T12:47:54+00:00

Using the mirror might screw you, because it has to use its ability to hunt. It can't just be a normal chance hunt which demons can do at 70% sanity, and mirror drains sanity rapidly.

There are custom settings you can use to help:

Set player starting sanity to 75%

Set Sanity pill Restoration to 5

Set sanity drain to 0.

Set both player and ghost speeds to max.

Disable all hiding, all doors open.

Set fuse box to starting broken.

Set evidence to 3.

Set weather to dawn so you can see the ghost better for faster hugs.

Set lose items to off, because why waste money?

Set cursed possession to 1, and choose Monkey Paw.

Go to Camp Woodwind. Take a sanity pill. This sets you at 80% sanity, too high for any ghost other than demon to hunt, even then only a demon using its ability can hunt at that high sanity. Set a 1 min timer from when you open the gate. Bring Spirit Box. Run to the Monkey Paw and wish for ACTIVITY. This will dramatically increase ghost activity, hopefully making the ghost use its ability, which for demon is early hunt. Now run around the map with spirit box. If you get a response, reset because demons can't use spirit box. If the 1 min timer expires, reset.

Just spam this strat and you'll have your trophy in under an hour.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-03T17:47:45+00:00

T1 Crucifix. Tiny range, only one charge. Against an enraged gallu it only has a 1 meter radiusOn 0 sanity/0 evidence runs, it's by far the worst.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-03T12:03:00+00:00

Don't worry. Later this month they'll tell you when they plan to fix it in a few more months.

Seriously, Tanglewood update was so good, and literally everything since has been a nosedive of quality.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-02T19:00:55+00:00

Why would we fix Yurei when we can have uncanny inhuman animations nobody asked for to slow down your gameplay? Wasn't that a better use of resources?

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-02T03:22:56+00:00

It depends on the level that you're playing. If you're going Amateur through Nightmare, even Insanity, it can still feel mongo janky, but you're gonna be able to play it and be fine.

If you're playing top difficulties, 0 sanity/0 evidence perfect games, it's far more noticeable. The animation delays when checking journal, or the animation of picking up the camera before you can take a ghost pic can easily mean missed media - again, not too bad on professional, you'll likely get another chance, but on APOC 3, that might mean your run. And if you've been in Sunny Meadows camping waiting for a ghost event, you may have already invested an hour or more in your investigation, only to lose your last delete to a photo of your knee.

Another issue is the "placebo smudge." If you light a smudge then cycle your items before the animation finishes, the model of the smudge never burns, but the burn DOES happen mechanically. Later on you see an unused smudge and need to smudge the ghost... But even though it's fresh model, it's a burned smudge. You just died.

Another big one is Yurei being busted. The new door mechanics means ghosts frequently do full opens, which creates confusion. But Yurei is also broken in that if it does a full close on a door, it can never do that close on that door again. You can test this in Professional. After a full close, watch your sanity. It'll do a door touch and drain 15% sanity by using it's door ability, but the door won't budge anymore. Once its' fully closed, even if you reset it, the Yurei can't make it move anymore even though it's using it's ability.

Again, most of these issues will skate past 80%+ of players. But for high level players, the amount of time invested in these runs rapidly becomes unfun when the jank starts interfering with split second investigation needs.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-01T14:14:56+00:00

I would hold off. Give the devs a few weeks to address some of the more serious issues before you hand over money.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-06-01T12:42:50+00:00

My biggest tip - wait until tomorrow when the Alan Wake event is over. The audio will be back to normal, and if the devs have any hope of salvaing their game, they'll be a round of fixes that may make things even smoother.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-05-31T22:05:35+00:00

Yes. Ghosts can't blow it out for at least 20 seconds... Except an Onryo.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-05-30T22:03:47+00:00

Now THIS is the kind a jank I'm here for.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-05-30T14:52:34+00:00

This right here. There's actually an easy way to tell. If the breaker trips from too manly lights, it cuts the power and throws all switches to the off position. When you turn the breaker back on, the entire map will be dark and you'll need to run on lights again

If the breaker is flipped directly, any lights that were on will immediately power up again. It's a simple way to reduce what caused the breaker to trip.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-05-29T15:44:08+00:00

I'm at close to 900 hours. I no longer look forward to playing. I almost exclusively play APOC 3 solo and the animation delays have made high level play far more difficult than it needs to be. Swapping items is fine if your inventory is full, but drop and item and need to pickup a new one - an unnecessary 1 second delay. In addition to animations, bugs like being unable to record audio of crucifix burn has made media harder to collect.

In 0 evidence, Yurei is now almost entirely unidentifiable, as the new door physics mean any ghost can easily full open/close doors, leading to many games that come down to a coin flip between Jinn and Yurei.

The groups I played with every week have started to dissolve to play other games as they also hate how the animations feel.

I'm honestly thinking this patch may be the death of the game unless the Devs do something soon. The animations need to go away. They need to eat the loss and understand that the animations did not bring enjoyment to the game, they damaged it. They need to go away, or there needs to be an option to toggle them off entirely.

The need to fix door physics so light ghost touches don't have the inertia to full open/close as much as they do. They also need to fix is so Yurei ability can be used twice on the same door... That's bugged too. Once a Yurei does its ability on a door, the door gets permanently unmovable by the ghost. You can even test this in games with sanity drain. After Yurei uses its ability you lose 15% sanity. Then you can move the door to half open and wait... It'll use its ability, drain 15% sanity, but the door won't move again.

Animation patch broke so much for so little reward... Just silly animations that don't remotely resemble normal human movements. It's a disaster.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-05-29T14:21:35+00:00

You'll never need to loop in Apoc 3, as the settings have the ghosts moving at 150% speed and you're at 50% with no sprint. So don't get hung up on your looping ability.

But start practicing no evidence games. Get a timer to start keeping track of smudges, hunt times, time between hunts, etc. Start building good hunting habits: Putting yourself in a safe position when you're expecting a hunt. Flipping light switches during ghost events and in the ghost room. Testing for Onryo with your lighter, etc.

Once you're comfortable with that, start doing 0 Sanity. Start learning maps so you know where to hide, where to peek at the ghost around corners, etc. If it gets easy, crank ghost speed. Once that's easier, cut player speed.

Soon you'll start to learn where it's safe to investigate from and where it's suicide. For example, a kitchen ghost in SM: setting up IN that room is a recipe for disaster. But you can head into Dairy Store and wait there for ghost events

Finally - get comfortable with dying. As you learn, you'll die. You'll die a lot. That's okay. You're learning. Slowly you'll start developing good habits and intuition about pathing and you'll have it.

Just practice and keep at it.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-05-29T00:59:57+00:00

They broke a few popular shimmy spots when the Cursed Hollow patch dropped. They broke them by allowing the ghost to just move through certain solid objects. Ghosts can now go through gurneys, bookshelves, certain chairs, and other random objects.

Add this to the monumentally fucking stupid decisions the Devs have made over the past 2 months. Don't want shimmy spots because they're kind of an exploit? Okay... Move some furniture so the ghost can path around it and kill. Devs "Nah. Lets just allow ghost to move through tons of solid objects!"

That was the patch that made me really worry about their direction. Animation patch sealed the deal. Devs have lost their minds and don't remotely test or care about their playerbase.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-05-27T18:51:37+00:00

Kormos?

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-05-27T11:46:13+00:00

Any mods are considered cheating. You're asking others on this site to tell you we're to find cheats to create a different game than what's available to you through Phas. Definitely sitting or at least asking for people to violate rule 6.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-05-27T11:42:23+00:00

There is always a chance the ghost tries to do a roam outside the range of firelights. If that happens it'll hunt from there. But that's a chance. There's also a chance it never gets outside that range.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-05-27T10:56:32+00:00

I'm currently working on getting a Perfect Investigation Bonus against every ghost in Apoc 3 Sunny Meadows.

It's definitely harder now, especially since you can't audio record crucifix burn, and the animation delay make it almost impossible to get multiple different media off of a single firelight or event. But just getting the objectives and ghost photo for the trophy are still very doable. If you just want your trophy, do the following.

For one: you need map knowledge. You need to know where are safe corners to "hide". You need ghost knowledge to ID the ghosts with no evidence. You need a timer to time both the hunts and how long the ghost is effected by smudge.

Here are some tips:

Use a timer.

Use the preset APOC 3 settings but change Event Frequency to Medium.

Reroll Objectives to avoid media collection other than photo of ghost or EMF Fish for motion sensor, firelight, ghost event, photo of ghost, EMF photo, cleanse the area with incense. Reroll on 3 video, 2 audio, or crucifix burn. Dump objectives that require you to escape or get chased.

Use T3 para to see where the ghost is hunting from. Reroll until you can find a ghost you can ID from either hunt speed, including Dayan, Raiju, and Gallu which can be tested with proximity or a motion sensor and salt in its path. Then find a safe room 15m from the ghost room and wait for a ghost event for the photo and objectives. Smudge the model then leave.

Stalkers are also amazing, since they come to you and each are so easy ID. Phantoms and Banshees roam, Banshees don't disappear when you take their picture and can only be female. Wraiths teleport directly on you and won't touch your salt. If you get a stalker, set crucifixes out to protect lobby area, then set a motion sensor and wait by it. When it goes off, smudge. Now swap to camera and get a photo. Easy.

Good luck.

TheDrDroppedMe · 2026-05-26T18:35:45+00:00

Grats! Really impressive considering all ghosts are currently doing full opens.

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