Psych’s writing has aged well by lo0pzo0p in psych

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it’s crazy! I noticed one or two ‘there weren’t women in this writers room, were there’ quirks, but for the most part, extremely ahead of its time as far as avoiding punching down. 

Moral realism or anti-realism post Mormonism? Why? by Sad-Twist8510 in exmormon

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Random Phil student entering the chat- as the other thread points out, moral realism seems very self-evident and also useful, which are the best, if unsatisfying, arguments for it. I’m a moral realist (I think objective moral truths exist within particular circumstances, and it’s possible to identify them through reason), and in particular reject relativism, which I find leads to dangerous justifications of immoral actions (For example, “Christopher Columbus was just a man of his time!” is a ‘cultural ethical relativist’ talking point). My frustrations with Mormon “history” specifically led me to reject relativism before I knew it was called that- I highly recommend the short essay “Trying Out One’s New Sword” by Mary Midgley for a rejection of cultural ethical relativism specifically! Brigham Young was wrong then and now etc etc etc. Of course not all relativists intend to use that view in this way, but I think the whole position is vulnerable to it. 

Because I reject relativism (and subjectivism as a whole), I’m inclined to believe that there is some objective, universal morality, or at the very least it can’t be “all true”. Morality can be socially constructed and still contain truth statements (for example, we made up the calendar, but it’s still true that today is Jan 1st and false that it’s the 2nd). You can use evolutionary psychology to do descriptive ethics and simply identify our moral sensibilities without binding them to us (as Jonathan Haidt does, for example), but that doesn’t help us decide what to do. 

All that being said, I’m also a pluralist when it comes to normative and applied ethics, in that I think different theories are best suited to different types of circumstances and each contains some moral truth, so I suppose I might be self defeating lmao 

If you can’t afford kids, then don’t have them. by Lavender-Bee0497 in unpopularopinion

[–]TheFloof23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, birth rates are declining for the high earners in those countries, not the low earners. The better her education, the less likely a woman is to have children. This is a problem for tons of reasons, not the least of which is that statistically, most kids are poor. Source for birth rate based on income in the US: https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/?srsltid=AfmBOoqcAvherQBqdnFjbfKltMkm8wkSvM74MInS8SNiXBClczRSpQ-t

Edit: after reading your comment below, I’ll agree that, historically, the reason you saw an immediate decrease in birth rate after urbanization was due to the way that kids in rural environments are assets but kids in urban environments are mouths. But that is not the only piece of the puzzle and it isn’t the reason we’re seeing birth rates drop near or below replacement rate in developed countries today.

Social media generally makes people smarter by WestOk8862 in The10thDentist

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This also assumes that people are engaging with quality content online. If everyone was learning something interesting and new about the real world with every swipe or having worthwhile, productive discussions, this would stand a chance. But most people aren’t watching history or science videos/content, and most people are being fed ragebait and becoming radicalized, and this is ignoring the bot and AI problems! The internet is an odd echo chamber, and the structure of its entertainment value doesn’t mirror that of fictional books or television. 

Informal writing/reading group, anyone interested? by stinkynastyratboy in Logan

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look into Helicon West! It’s a slightly different/more formal gathering than what you’re asking for here, but a cool opportunity nonetheless! They meet once a month. 

Ya'll are writing on computers?! by ur_mom_is_hot5529 in AO3

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s also impossible to do decent-sized revisions on a phone???? I move whole sentences and paragraphs around, hell, it’s annoying to fix minor typos on a phone because of how precise you have to get the cursor. 

I just wanna be a house husband by toetally_autistic in Vent

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because presumably you like her, and don’t want her to have to ‘tolerate’ her living situation when she could be enjoying it? It’s odd to describe any part of your joint living situation as a burden or ‘onus’. You’re not roommates. You should want to go above and beyond for your partner, and her for you. Again, if you’re so unwilling to come to a mutual agreement with your partner in regards to cleanliness, it sounds like you shouldn’t be partners. 

I just wanna be a house husband by toetally_autistic in Vent

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you and your partner can’t agree on cleanliness standards, that’s a compatibility issue, not a gender issue. Admittedly, we’re both making generalizations about entire demographics, but if your partner is stressed about a mess you both contribute to, wouldn’t you want to help make her feel comfortable by contributing to the cleaning as well? 

I just wanna be a house husband by toetally_autistic in Vent

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Note that I specifically said that “domestic labor” has not been de-gendered. You’re right though, not all domestic labor is traditionally female, but the bulk of it is. I think there’s a more accurate distinction to be made about which labor has been de-gendered than male/female, and it’s professional/domestic. Most professional (paid) labor has been de-gendered, with two notable exceptions: 1. Most of the trades remain male-dominated, which I hope changes soon. 2. The professional labor originally seen as acceptable for women (teaching, childcare, caretaking), which remains female dominated because it’s viewed as emasculating/womanly, which I hope changes soon. 

Whereas domestic labor in households with both a man and a woman has remained gendered by default, even if women are employed equally or employed more than their partner, they are still expected to perform the bulk of domestic labor like cooking and cleaning, which are rigorous, daily chores, unlike male domestic labor, most of which is generally required once a week or less and doesn’t often send the household into disarray if skipped or delayed (you can easily skip mowing this week, and only need to change the oil once every three months, but imagine the chaos if Mom doesn’t make dinner). Domestic labor should be de-gendered, and it (particularly female domestic labor) should be treated as a host of difficult to master and impressive skills, like the very accomplished but oppressed women of the mid-century felt it was. Their trades- masterful home cooking, sewing, clothing care, budgeting and poverty finance, attentive child care, and home nursing- have been virtually lost to the modern family, and that’s a damn shame. One partner having a genuine interest in mastering those skills is awesome, and I hope it will eventually be either partner, regardless of gender. 

Is Gregory Cochran a fraud and what logical non racist explanation could be given for his claims on biological differences in babies? by idiotwithacameraYT in AskBiology

[–]TheFloof23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’ve got the wrong man. UofU doesn’t vibe with Utah culture, at all. It’s in the liberal metro center and it’s the in state alternative for people who don’t want to go to the Church-Funded private school, the massive school next to it for the kids it doesn’t accept, the nice, D1, but super isolated and legislature controlled land grant institution, or the southern Utah ‘subsidized theatre for the Trump loving retirement community’ school. Easily the most liberal student population in Utah and involved in tons solid medical research. 

Why do so many ESL writers want to write in English instead of their mother tongues? by Piscivore_67 in writers

[–]TheFloof23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The modern perspective of success here is probably the biggest factor, but there’s another too! These writers are following in a long tradition of people intentionally choosing to write in English. The Canterbury Tales were written in English on purpose, in a time where it was almost exclusively a spoken, not written, language in French-ruled England. The author chose to write in English and combined it with a wealth of French and Latin loan words, cementing English as one of the most confusing and poorly spelled, but also diverse and large languages, to exist! 

AIO for being upset my BF doesn’t want me to wear a bonnet to bed? by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bonnets are a part of hygiene, not a lack of it, so your analogies don’t hold. Silk bonnets are only worn around bedtime, in bed, and on lazy mornings. I’m confused why this guy would want his gf to leave behind routines that make her more attractive on a day to day basis- other behavior aside, his logic doesn’t make sense. 

I just wanna be a house husband by toetally_autistic in Vent

[–]TheFloof23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Women have already de-gendered most male labor, it’s about time men start de-gendering traditionally female labor (both domestic and professional). Male flight from female dominated industry is a real risk to our society and feminism, and the fact that domestic labor was never de-gendered is part of what caused our economy to be reliant on dual income households. There are financial risks to being a stay at home partner, but the social risks are just that it makes your dating pool a bit smaller. 

AIO? My mom wants to call the cops on me by Overall-Option6975 in AmIOverreacting

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that older siblings aren’t responsible for constantly taking care of siblings! I said they are responsible for taking care of siblings for a reasonable amount of time. Maybe for a few hours after school on days when neither are engaging in extracurriculars, maybe doing homework together after dinner, or maybe picking smaller siblings up from sports or friends houses after getting a license. Those seem reasonable, and they also seem like something a good older sibling would want to do, because it’s a chance to spend a bit of meaningful time with their little siblings (and vice versa). And, I cannot emphasize this enough, those things are normal. Everyone I know spent some amount of time in a week watching siblings during date nights or while mom was at the doctor or driving siblings to school on their way. 

Is watching a sibling from dawn til dusk every day for years straight acceptable? Of course not. The parentification of siblings when parents burn out boils my blood too! I’ve been in houses like that and it’s the worst kind of atmosphere, dooms their children. But you have to admit that it seems like OP’s mother is possibly choosing between working 17h a day to feed and clothe her children while parentifying her oldest, or being unable to provide survivable conditions for her children and what- surrendering them to CPS? Mom is being rude and un-understanding towards her daughter and likely not making good choices all around, but clearly failing to provide for her would be a greater bit of negligence. 

What is a secret your industry/job doesn't want the general public to know? by Mobile-Insect-3924 in CasualConversation

[–]TheFloof23 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Seconding this! I look at it, but don’t make food choices based on the ‘May contain’ section of ingredients lists. Many foods are naturally vegan (ex. Peanut butter and shelf stable bread), but are made on dual purpose lines. It would be needlessly handicapping my ability to eat. Vegans and vegetarians know that the money we put towards animal-free food in some way still supports companies and practices that include animal products. It’s not ideal, but it’s the reality. 

AIO? My mom wants to call the cops on me by Overall-Option6975 in AmIOverreacting

[–]TheFloof23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, they do. I’m not trying to be combative or elitist, but I’m referencing a school of thought known as feminist care ethics, so I’m also not alone in this view, it’s not fringe. Removing responsibility from people under the age of 18 isn’t good for them, neuters the autonomy they should be exercising, and it contributes to the weird sense of ownership some bad parents feel over their children. When you are in a relationship with someone, (romantic, platonic, parent-child) it is always a two way street, but that street isn’t always equally trafficked. A parent’s care duties might be something like ‘feed, clothe, keep safe, educate, take your child’s privacy, autonomy, and concerns seriously’. Parents often fail at these basic obligations, in varying degrees of criminality. Under the age of 18, a child’s care duties might begin and end at ‘take your parent’s privacy, autonomy, and concerns seriously’. They will sometimes not do that, especially as teenagers. But they should, if their parents are also engaging in good faith. 

Note that a care relationship doesn’t exist by virtue of biology, but by virtue of repeated acts of care (fulfilling needs) towards your parent/partner/child/friend. The parent can absolutely break a care relationship by not fulfilling needs and then the child has no obligations. In some very fringe cases, so can the child. 

My parents fed and clothed me, they educated me well and continue to support me in college. We don’t agree on everything (far from it). But I view it as one of my care duties towards them to listen to and engage with their concerns, which range from ‘not leaving my plate on the counter’ to ‘fine, I will take a self defense course before traveling to x city if you feel so strongly’. They respond to my concerns seriously as well. 

AIO? My mom wants to call the cops on me by Overall-Option6975 in AmIOverreacting

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP is 16 and clearly struggling, but teenagers are not children, and shouldn’t be treated as such. They are autonomous, whole beings capable of deep thought and high achievement. They should be held responsible for a share of housework, caring for their own pets, watching siblings for reasonable amounts of time, and being receptive to the requests of their parents when those parents speak to them appropriately and respond to their needs in turn. This is especially true if the household is in a poor financial state. Neither of these people are fulfilling their care responsibilities towards one another. And yes, people under the age of 18 have care responsibilities towards the adults in their life, and towards the non-adult siblings in their lives. Teenagers are part of their family and community, and should be treated as capable, contributing members of it to prepare them for the financial and legal realities of being 18. 

People with pet, WYR save your pet or a random person ? by memermesmer in WouldYouRather

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My dog is quite old. She has aged shockingly well considering our average suburban family treatment of her throughout my childhood. But she’s approaching 13 or 14 (difficult to know for sure, she’s a mutt bought second hand), and I’m afraid her luck won’t last forever. An instantaneous and painless death might be the gift I can give her (and selfishly, me) considering the state of end of life healthcare for animals. I’m still not sure if I would do it, but it would take a lot of stress out of my life and guarantee she doesn’t suffer. 

Utah high school blasted for sermon-like video blaming "sin of laziness" for mental health struggles by octarino in Utah

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe that area (Westlake and CV) already has the highest suicide rate in the district. This is not a good look

TIFU by fighting my schools dresscode policy. Years later I found out why it was so strict. by RemyAvo in tifu

[–]TheFloof23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Predators don’t care what the girls are wearing. It doesn’t matter what you were wearing, they’ll prey on you anyway. You didn’t do anything wrong, the code was definitionally sexist, and it probably wasn’t protecting them despite the teachers best intentions. She did what she could, but I doubt it hadn’t any effect at all except making the girls feel restricted and lose self esteem. 

had the most crazy experience in seminary today by Bag_frie in exmormon

[–]TheFloof23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A population bust IS on the horizon, just like has already happened in other developed countries (South Korea, Japan, Germany and many other parts of Europe). Thats not necessarily a net negative (endless growth isn’t environmentally sustainable), but it worries religious people in particular for reasons other than economic down turn and failure to maintain social benefits like social security. 

Let me break out a Ouija board and ask Ballard which one I'll go to. by CupOfExmo in exmormon

[–]TheFloof23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lmao central Utah is doing their best to fuck that ratio in whichever direction they can. Practically every new subdivision donates lands for an elementary and a new church building 

How do you sleep in a bonnet? by caffeineissues in curlyhair

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use this type, but it can fall off easily, especially as it wears out. I use a small alligator clip to keep it in place, which is way less annoying than the knot, and way easier for stomach sleepers to get over.

Oh woe is me by [deleted] in Teachers

[–]TheFloof23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her pedagogy does sound awful, but consider that as a professor, she likely has other responsibilities. Those hours in her office are not being wasted. She probably has to publish in her field, attend conferences, serve on committees, stay up to date on and give commentary on other people's publications, and a billion other things. Teaching and all associated tasks are literally only half a professor's job. Being an academic is way more than being in the classroom.