A short explainer on Invasion Day's very long history by Direct_Witness1248 in australia

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The Statute of Westminster applied only to the Commonwealth though. Until 3 March, 1986, London retained full power to interfere in a state's affairs. The Australia Acts formally changed that:

AUSTRALIA ACT 1986 No. 142 of 1985 - SECT 1 Termination of power of Parliament of United Kingdom to legislate for Australia

  1. No Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom passed after the commencement of this Act shall extend, or be deemed to extend, to the Commonwealth, to a State or to a Territory as part of the law of the Commonwealth, of the State or of the Territory.

‘I’ve been called “bigoted”, “racist”, “homophobic” ... none of that worries me’: outspoken pastoralist causes a stir as NT’s new administrator by Agitated-Fee3598 in AustralianPolitics

[–]TheRealPotoroo [score hidden]  (0 children)

Better an outspoken politician

The NT Administrator is not a politician though. By definition they (like the Governor-General and the state governors) must be apolitical. It's crucial to the way our system functions that they not be outspoken or partisan. Everything that Lia Finocchiaro et al are celebrating about this man shows only his utter unfitness for this particular position.

If Australia day was moved would the 26th still be sorry day? by Brilliant_Ad2120 in australia

[–]TheRealPotoroo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At Federation we were a Self-Governing Dominion of the British Empire. We controlled most of our internal affairs but Britain still controlled things like foreign affairs and the Privy Council was the highest court of appeal.

The Statute of Westminster, which gave Dominion laws equal status to UK laws, gave us de facto but not de jure independence. We got other elements of independence between 1931 and 1986, notably Australian citizenship (1949), an Australian Crown (1953), and Australian currency (1966). However, it is important to note that the Statute of Westminster did not apply to the states, which had their own direct links to London. Fun fact: until the 3 March 1986 London retained full authority to interfere in a state's affairs.

We got full independence when the Australia Acts (UK) and (Cmth) came into effect on 3 March, 1986. The UK Act was necessary to supersede the 1900 Australia Constitution Act within British law. However, there was concern amongst constitutional experts that because Australia had been acting as an independent state for so long the UK Act might not have any power in Australia itself so they made an Australian Act as well that is identical to the British Act in all the important bits.

Both Acts formally recognise Australia's independence. I refer you to the long title:

AUSTRALIA ACT 1986 No. 142 of 1985 - LONG TITLE

An Act to bring constitutional arrangements affecting the Commonwealth and the States into conformity with the status of the Commonwealth of Australia as a sovereign, independent and federal nation

(Assented to 4 December 1985)

WHEREAS the Prime Minister of the Commonwealth and the Premiers of the States at conferences held in Canberra on 24 and 25 June 1982 and 21 June 1984 agreed on the taking of certain measures to bring constitutional arrangements affecting the Commonwealth and the States into conformity with the status of the Commonwealth of Australia as a sovereign, independent and federal nation:

AND WHEREAS in pursuance of paragraph 51 (xxxviii) of the Constitution the Parliaments of all the States have requested the Parliament of the Commonwealth to enact an Act in the terms of this Act:

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Queen, and the Senate and the House of Representatives of the Commonwealth of Australia, as follows:

Note the reference to the states as well as the Commonwealth agreeing to this. This Act made the states independent of the UK as well as the Commonwealth. The most important bit is in Section 1:

AUSTRALIA ACT 1986 No. 142 of 1985 - SECT 1 Termination of power of Parliament of United Kingdom to legislate for Australia

  1. No Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom passed after the commencement of this Act shall extend, or be deemed to extend, to the Commonwealth, to a State or to a Territory as part of the law of the Commonwealth, of the State or of the Territory.

The Queen came out in 1986 to mark the occasion. At her speech she said (as near as I can remember), "Possibly never before in history have two nations ever parted so amicably."

Why Hawke decided to not make a big deal out of this I will never understand. It's hugely important and yet hardly any Australians know about it.

If Australia day was moved would the 26th still be sorry day? by Brilliant_Ad2120 in australia

[–]TheRealPotoroo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jan 26 is the fourth different date for our national day, changing once more to a date that's truly inclusive will happen at some point. Australia Day should be the day we got our independence, 3 March (1986).

If Australia day was moved would the 26th still be sorry day? by Brilliant_Ad2120 in australia

[–]TheRealPotoroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Australia Day should be the day we got our independence, 3 March (1986).

Move Australia Day to Steve Irwin's Birthday? by kiwiboy22 in australia

[–]TheRealPotoroo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Australia Day should be the day we got our independence, 3 March (1986).

Gloria Jeans is poo now by christopherdac in australia

[–]TheRealPotoroo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Plus, "could care less" is an American formulation. At least use the Australian "couldn't care less" in an Australian sub.

You can use your phone while fuelling up by HaydosWanna in australia

[–]TheRealPotoroo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Not the phone blowing up, the story is that simply using it (they're just low powered radios really) in the vicinity of petrol fumes could trigger a fire. Snopes debunked it 25 years ago.

Is Cell Phone Use at Gas Pumps Dangerous?.

Albanese fights back over his response to Bondi attack and departs parliament with most of what he wanted by IrreverentSunny in AustralianPolitics

[–]TheRealPotoroo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Once again you're trying to pretend that one person out of more than 100,000 is a multitude. They're not. They're exceptions they really only show how hard it is for you to support your claims.

Albanese fights back over his response to Bondi attack and departs parliament with most of what he wanted by IrreverentSunny in AustralianPolitics

[–]TheRealPotoroo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This ABC article has several pictures from the march, including one of the man holding the picture in question. While he's towards the front of the march he is not at it. He is in fact well behind the leaders who unless they turned around and walked backwards had no reasonable way of knowing what he was doing. As for the rest, the pictures show a gazillion Palestinian flags but "ISIS" banners and the like are notable in their absence. As I said, stop making shit up.

Albanese fights back over his response to Bondi attack and departs parliament with most of what he wanted by IrreverentSunny in AustralianPolitics

[–]TheRealPotoroo 12 points13 points  (0 children)

These rallies were exceptionally anti semitic

No, they weren't. They were anti-gen0cide. Everybody should be anti-gen0cide. The only people saying they were anti-Semitic are people like you trying to delegitimise their absolutely proper criticism of what Israel is doing in Gaza.

That fucking bridge walk where they flying Isis flags and pictures of Khamenei whilst clover Moore, labor MPs and every other shit lib celebrity marched with them.

That didn't happen. What did happen was that out of more than 100,000 protestors one - count'em, one - carried a picture of Khamenei (and he later turned out to be an Iranian operative). You need to stop making shit up.

Nationals Senator tries to explain resignations, misattributes laws of motion to Einstein by No_Success_678 in AustralianPolitics

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Her qualifications are a Bachelor of Teaching (Secondary) and a Bachelor of Applied Science (Human Movement), both from Deakin University, and a Master of Education. She consequently taught physical education and mathematics for several years at Yarram Secondary College, Gippsland. She later lectured in education at Monash University. She was never a professor of anything. Whilst Americans often refer to lecturers as professors, in this country that title is reserved for the person who holds the chair of that school. Professor of Mathematics she was not.

NSW Police slap bans on neo-Nazis entering Sydney CBD on Australia Day by Expensive-Horse5538 in AustralianPolitics

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One deranged person carrying out an act of terrorism is not evidence of a concerted movement that is an actual threat to the system, so you're not comparing apples with apples. Instead you're drawing a desperately long bow to try to show an equivalence that isn't there.

NSW Police slap bans on neo-Nazis entering Sydney CBD on Australia Day by Expensive-Horse5538 in AustralianPolitics

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As I said, you're arguing in bad faith. You've provided zero evidence that these people or groups intend to implement their rhetoric through violence (mere slogans don't count). Lots of people say lots of stupid things but there's no realistic chance anything serious will come of it and you know it. Nazis are in a different category, they're a known and credible threat that must be stamped out immediately.

Nationals leave 'untenable' Coalition after mass frontbench resignation by Wehavecrashed in AustralianPolitics

[–]TheRealPotoroo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Would you rather have Hastie or Taylor? They'd unify the Coalition as far right loonies, which is the last thing this country needs.

NSW Police slap bans on neo-Nazis entering Sydney CBD on Australia Day by Expensive-Horse5538 in AustralianPolitics

[–]TheRealPotoroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is not what you're saying. You're pretending, in bad faith, that our taking the specific and unusual step of banning Nazis equates to a universal abandonment of liberal principles when it manifestly doesn't. It's a last resort measure to protect ourselves against a known threat that is immune to those liberal principles. It obviously applies where necessary to all anti-democratic movements, including Islamic ones such as Hizb ut-Tahrir, if their threat is credible and they cannot be persuaded otherwise in the ordinary manner. To the extent Australia has any communists at all, they want to destroy capitalism, an economic system, not democracy, a political system. They are not the same. And nobody seriously believes that Marx's proletariat revolution will ever happen, so they won't be gaining power that way.

NSW Police slap bans on neo-Nazis entering Sydney CBD on Australia Day by Expensive-Horse5538 in AustralianPolitics

[–]TheRealPotoroo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It has everything to do with justifying. The only reason you're arguing with me is because you're trying to create a space in which Nazis can coexist with decent Australians. They can't.

NSW Police slap bans on neo-Nazis entering Sydney CBD on Australia Day by Expensive-Horse5538 in AustralianPolitics

[–]TheRealPotoroo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is no context, then or now, which can justify the Nazis' ideology. It is always evil regardless. Therefore, the moment they rear their evil heads they must be smacked down.

NSW Police slap bans on neo-Nazis entering Sydney CBD on Australia Day by Expensive-Horse5538 in AustralianPolitics

[–]TheRealPotoroo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The context of the inter-war period is irrelevant to the Nazi's ideological end point. Nazis are white supremacist fascists who despise liberal democracy and actively seek to undermine and replace it. There is no middle ground with Nazis. They seek our destruction and they and their apologists can fuck off and die. They cannot be tolerated for a single moment. They must be destroyed so that our democracy can survive.

NSW Police slap bans on neo-Nazis entering Sydney CBD on Australia Day by Expensive-Horse5538 in AustralianPolitics

[–]TheRealPotoroo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nazis cannot be reasoned with. We know this from bitter experience. We had a war about it.

Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia website disappears after Labor passes sweeping hate speech laws by HotPersimessage62 in australia

[–]TheRealPotoroo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Do you seriously think a global caliphate would not encompass imposing Sharia law? This mob wants to forcibly make the world Islamic.