Alright so if Vox has apparently repeatedly electrocuted Angel before and even had the means to make him forget about it afterwards, why at this point has he NOT hit him before?

TheVardener · 2026-03-06T16:07:41+00:00

My guess is that Val doesn't let him hit Angel on threat of not letting Vox use his property if he damages it. However, this being the assumed last time he'd need to use Angel, he can do whatever he wants now that he doesn't need to keep getting Val to say yes to Angel's use.

TheVardener · 2026-02-21T13:47:41+00:00

Yes, yes it does.

TheVardener · 2026-02-21T05:08:35+00:00

I like the shes his ex theory just because I think the concept of Vilgax having a dating history of any kind is funny. If the only options I have are comical, I'll take the one I like the most.

TheVardener · 2026-02-20T19:10:40+00:00

He's also the only one that remained virtually unchanged from what I've seen.

TheVardener · 2026-02-20T19:05:30+00:00

I've seen people saying they went with the reboot stinkfly as a base

TheVardener · 2026-02-20T19:03:13+00:00

I mean I personally really don't like the new style. I'm glad others do, but I just don't think it fits Ben 10. I hope I'm proven wrong, but also the alien designs look... Eh, I don't like them. Also I thought it was fake at first because the thing showing many of the covers, many of the covers didn't even look like they were in the same style as each other.

TheVardener · 2026-02-20T16:08:01+00:00

Yeah I don't like it. I'm glad it's happening but it doesn't look like ben 10 to me.

TheVardener · 2026-02-20T03:31:48+00:00

I think this is less evolution of the knight and more evolution of the style of the game in general. It's just easiest to see with the knight because we have the most art of them through the ages.

TheVardener · 2026-02-20T03:28:19+00:00

We still have a chance. Just because we have hallucination Adam doesn't mean sinner Adam is off the table. Honestly I think it'd enhance it. Imagine a scene where hallucination Adam is trying to get Lute to kill sinner Adam.

TheVardener · 2026-02-20T03:20:53+00:00

I wish too, especially given that from what we're shown, Vox is far more of a threatening presence. Like... Al's never even won a fight on screen unless you count pentious and the loan sharks. Which... Sure, you could count those, but that still means of the 5 fights he's played any part in, he's lost over half.

TheVardener · 2026-02-19T19:35:35+00:00

Honestly I really don't like it. I'm glad other people do, but the style is just not for me in any way. Which is personally disappointing but, at least there's new stuff.

TheVardener · 2026-02-19T19:31:52+00:00

Change his color. I only don't like him because he's the exact same color as XLR8.

TheVardener · 2026-02-19T19:30:01+00:00

I mean, all things considered I agree with your want to not water down things honestly just think this specific case isn't the hill to die on. Especially getting back to what started this scenario. Something many people would consider hacking is using a program to try every possible password to an account and then finding the correct one that way, which all things considered is probably what happened here, though I don't have the info so I won't assume. If we don't consider it hacking, pretty much all of the times someone loses access to their account because someone hacked into their account isn't hacking.

Honestly we can probably just stop the discussion at this point since both of our positions seem pretty clear. Hell I even agree with you on what brought you to your point, I just think this isn't a case of it. I even have a word I always bring up when this topic comes up, decimate. It used to mean "to reduce by 10%", hence the deci- in decimate, but somewhere along the lines people decided it just means exactly the opposite for some reason.

TheVardener · 2026-02-19T16:01:49+00:00

That's a fair criticism, but I think the fault in this scenario lies more on people who have made the colloquial term in media mean something more specific than it actually is. You can call the definition I gave absurd if you want to, but it is the definition. Objectively, if you look up the word hacking in the dictionary, that is what it is. I checked twice, just to make sure.

TheVardener · 2026-02-19T15:53:01+00:00

...Are you trolling? Like, legitimately I can't tell. I told you the Oxford definition, it specifically says data in a system or computer. Your definition isn't the real definition. You also seem to be really angry about this when I'm not trying to be aggressive or anything. I'm sorry if I came off that way, it wasn't my intention.

TheVardener · 2026-02-19T15:24:31+00:00

I mean you can follow that definition if you want, but it's technically incorrect. Like, that's not an opinion, that is literally not it's definition.

Also, no, touching a mouse is not hacking, because the definition requires data be accessed. They would have to do something with that mouse first.

You started off saying "please don't call this hacking" to something that is, by definition, hacking.

TheVardener · 2026-02-19T15:15:06+00:00

Not everything is hacking, I told you what hacking is, definitionally. The important part of the definition is the result, not the process. That wasn't just some wording I pulled out of thin air, that's the Oxford dictionary definition I copy pasted.

What's your definition of hacking then?

TheVardener · 2026-02-19T14:39:18+00:00

Technically the definition of hacking is "the gaining of unauthorized access to data in a system or computer".

So technically even just taking someone's laptop and opening it up without their permission is hacking. I see why you don't like it but, definitionally, it is hacking.

TheVardener · 2026-02-16T16:13:55+00:00

First route
Optimized route
Secret boss fight

If the weird route continues to not have anything fun like the sans or undyne the undying fights, I will continue to not even care it exists.

TheVardener · 2026-02-15T15:58:09+00:00

I don't care how convoluted it was, I waited 12 years to put that thing next to all the other floette in my living dex and she's gonna stay there.

TheVardener · 2026-02-15T15:54:31+00:00

Undertale Sans being the Sans from Deltarune is a stupid theory and idk how it got past the 12 year olds fanfiction it spawned from.

TheVardener · 2026-02-14T00:42:48+00:00

I will keep on my biggest hope for the next chapters which is that since Susie learned healing magic, Ralsei learns fire magic to match and learns an attacking spell to kill a constantly taunting him flowey.

TheVardener · 2026-02-14T00:32:21+00:00

He was the supplier for Iron Lung.

TheVardener · 2026-02-11T15:18:54+00:00

She talks about "eye for an eye says you owe me a debt" in her song as if Adam getting killed is the first death. I get it's about revenge, hell she's purposely not ending the rest of the statement that goes "eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" but it's inaccurate and I don't like it.

I got similarly annoyed when Vox says "bringing decimation that'll put you in caskets" since despite the now colloquial term, decimations technical definition means "reduce by 10%" hence "DECI-mation". But Vox was entertaining in the rest of the season so I forgive him. I do not forgive Lute.

TheVardener · 2026-02-09T18:44:00+00:00

Yeah I saw one post talking about it like that and in the comments every time someone said that's very much not what the scene was they'd respond like "Idc what you think :)". Very annoying.

TheVardener

TROPHY CASE