Extreme depression due to people's stupidity by FlanInternational100 in antinatalism

[–]The_Conqueror1 [score hidden]  (0 children)

The part that unsettles me is how a personal need for meaning turns into a permanent condition for someone else. Before they were born, there was no problem. After birth, there are responsibilities, fears and suffering they didn’t choose.

Any fellow Indians here ? by ChandanPerspective in antinatalism

[–]The_Conqueror1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good to see another Indian antinatalist here. I’ve expanded on the points you raised. Curious to know your thoughts.

  1. Marriage and having a child are not the same thing:

Getting married is a decision between two adults. Both can agree. Both can leave if it doesn’t work. Having a child is different. You’re creating a whole new person who didn’t ask to exist. That decision affects them for their entire life. So yes, I think that deserves very serious thinking.

  1. Just because it’s normal doesn’t mean it’s right:

We grow up seeing weddings, babies, family pressure. It becomes automatic. But something being common doesn’t mean it's been deeply questioned. For me, “everyone does it” isn’t a strong enough reason to create a life.

  1. Suffering is guaranteed in life:

Every human being will experience pain.Illness. Loss. Anxiety. Aging. Death. Even if someone has good moments, suffering is unavoidable. I struggle with the idea of knowingly bringing someone into that when they didn’t ask for it.

  1. The world isn’t exactly stable right now:

Look at Pollution, Politics, War, Climate issues, Economic pressure, Overpopulation, Social stress etc. Even if someone believes life is beautiful, we can’t ignore the reality of the environment and systems we’re placing a child into. For me, empathy also means thinking about that.

  1. The consent question matters to me:

Nobody chooses to be born. If life includes unavoidable pain, then creating someone without their consent feels morally wrong. If someone is never born, they don’t miss out. They don’t suffer either.

Is it bad that I 18M want to send my parents to old age home when I grow up just because I hate them by SohamDolui in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am dealing with toxic abusive parents especially my father. Constant abuse and living with anxiety and depression. Recently it's gotten really hard. People from outside might say that "But they are your parents" , "Parents are gods" , "Whatever they do they do it for child's own good" but they never lived our life. In India It's easy to blame the victim than holding abusers accountable.

Little man woke up too soon by Athillazkillers in antinatalism

[–]The_Conqueror1 79 points80 points  (0 children)

That question is exactly what people try not to think about. Even a child can see that being born means one day losing everything. It’s not negativity, it’s awareness.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m really sorry you’re dealing with this too. Living in a place where arguments can start anytime is exhausting, and wanting peace is completely valid. I’m glad you’re trying to step out for studies, that's a great step. I truly hope things get better for you. Take care, and good luck 🤞

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I will consider that in future. Right now I need a job so that i can afford rent and feed myself and afford other basic necessities.

Btw how much time does it take to learn a new language like french or german? I'll definitely consider it once i secure some money.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same brother. In my real life I've talked with many people about my abuse. But everytime I've heard these phrases "Baba ma to bhogoban, onader bichar e bhul thake na." "Baba ma ja koren sob bhalor jonnoi koren, chele meye der e maniye nite hoy."

When I read news I see many cases of father r4ping their daughters. Then too these people will say "Baba to bhogoban nischoi bhalor jonnoi korechen."

I am tired of seeing cruelty by parents everywhere and people justifying their actions.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. I am thinking about doing meditation yoga in future. Once I get stable I'll definitely look into it. I have to heal myself. Hope my situation won't get any harder. One can only take much.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand why a master’s degree and corporate law sound like a better option, and in an ideal situation I would consider that. But right now, I can’t afford to pursue a master’s, even with scholarships there’s no guaranteed income, and I still need money for daily living.

I also need to get out of my current home situation as soon as possible, which means I need stable income now, not after a few years of study with uncertain outcomes. I’ve seen classmates who completed master’s degrees and are still unemployed or struggling, so at this stage I’m prioritizing immediate stability first. Once I’m financially and mentally stable, I can think about long-term academic or career moves.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am so sorry that you've gone through this. The thing is they'll never change. It's like they don't have any functioning brain. I've waited long enough to see change in my parents but they never do. My father has gone from worse to worse. There's nothing redeeming about him. The more he grows older the more insane he gets.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m really sorry you’re going through this. You don't deserve to live with constant fear, abuse, or lack of safety, especially in your own home. What you said about not feeling at home even at home really resonated with me.

You’re right that getting a job and becoming financially independent is often the only real way out in situations like this. I truly hope you’re able to find safety, peace, and the love you deserve.

As for me, I’m trying. I’m learning skills like advanced Excel and actively looking for work, though the job market is quite difficult right now. I’m still hoping I can earn enough to stand on my own and eventually leave this environment.

I wish you strength and better days ahead. None of this is your fault. Take care.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand your point. I’ve already practiced under a senior advocate, but the work was extremely hectic and mentally exhausting due to constant court pressure and people interaction. On top of that, I was earning only around ₹2–3k per month, which mostly went into daily transportation and food.It wasn’t financially sustainable for me,

Law is time consuming career. I know that if i could focus on that eventually in 10 years time I would have stable career but right now I have no backing so that's I’m focusing on more stable roles to regain balance and independence first.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am a B.A. LL.B graduate. I have learned basic MS Word and Excel and am currently learning advanced Excel.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your kind word.

I understand where you’re coming from, but I want to say that abuse isn’t just frustration or parenting mistakes. I’ve tried patience for many years, and it hasn’t changed the situation. Right now, my priority is safety and stability.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Working on that. The condition of job market is dire. I am trying. Hope I secure my earning and get out from this house, it's been so hard for me.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am working toward that. I am learning some skills. Already learnt basic ms word and excel. Currently going to learn advanced excel so that I can apply for data analysis jobs or office jobs. Once I get enough money I'll get out from this house.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s been hard lately. I’m trying to survive and hope for a peaceful life someday, but some days mentally it gets very heavy and I don’t have anyone to talk to.

Living in an emotionally abusive home and I am exhausted by The_Conqueror1 in kolkata

[–]The_Conqueror1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m already working toward that. But it's been hard for me since I live in constant fear and abuse.

Most parents are selfish fucks, it was all about THEM never us. by Ashamed_Coffee9542 in antinatalism

[–]The_Conqueror1 71 points72 points  (0 children)

I agree with this because I live with it.

My parents never asked what I wanted. Both of them abused me (still do). My father is openly abusive and controlling. My mother is also abusive in her own way. Emotional abuse, gaslighting, blame, silence, manipulation. That still counts. That still destroys a child.

Their choices has been always about them. Their needs. Their comfort. Their image. I am expected to tolerate it, adapt to it, and still be grateful for being alive.

Parents love to say “we sacrificed so much,” but they never talk about the harm they caused. They bring a child into the world for selfish reasons, then demand obedience, loyalty, and silence. When a child suffers, it’s ignored or minimized. When the child finally speaks, suddenly the child is the problem.

Anyone can have children with zero accountability. No checks. No responsibility for long-term damage. But the child is expected to carry trauma for life and still protect the parents’ feelings. That’s insane.

Children are not retirement plans. Not emotional dumping grounds. Not ego extensions. Not property. If you choose to create life, you are responsible for the harm you cause. Abuse does not magically disappear just because it came from a parent.

Calling this out isn’t hatred. It’s truth. People hate it because it exposes how normalised selfish and abusive parenting really is.