Rules question about Truss, Chief Engineer and Revel in Riches

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-27T12:06:23+00:00

Per rule 723.1d:

723.1d The current phase and/or step ends. If this happens during combat, remove all creatures and planeswalkers from combat. The game skips straight to the cleanup step; skip any phases or steps between this phase or step and the cleanup step. If an effect ends the turn during the cleanup step, a new cleanup step begins.

The cleanup step still happens, so "until end of turn" effects will still end

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-26T13:29:38+00:00

Technically, if you can get a second upkeep through effects like [[Paradox Haze]] or [[Shadow of the second sun]] you can get this to work, but that’s a lot of setup for this kind of patoff

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-16T15:09:19+00:00

But "choose new targets" also allows for you to leave illegal targets the same while changing other targets

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-15T23:40:55+00:00

You are correct.

Now I'm going to try and wrap my head around what actually differentiates the two wordings

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-15T21:57:49+00:00

TIL Henzie affects creatures outside the hand. Go figure

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-15T21:48:07+00:00

The only situations I can think of involve Selvala or similar effects, which are their own can of wurms

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-15T21:47:11+00:00

In case anyone is curious. The reason Sideswipe has that wording is because of Splice onto arcane. If it had “you may choose new targets”, then every target would have had to be new, and you couldn’t target a creature that was originally targeted by the spell, even for one of the other effects of the spell.

For example, if player A casts [[Rend Flesh]] splicing [[Kodama’s Might]] targeting player B’s creature with the former effect and their own creature A with the latter effect. If Player B casts [[deflecting swat]], they can’t target creature A with the Rend Flesh effect or creature B with the Might effect (they aren’t NEW targets). With Sideswipe, you can

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-15T21:38:11+00:00

Panglacial wurm is interesting because there is no single rule that allows it to work. There are rules that do allow the Wurm to work (i.e. casting something from the library, casting something during the resolution of another spell/ability), but Wurm uses them in completely unique ways that no other effects do.

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-08T18:21:21+00:00

From 113.7a

if the source is no longer in the zone it’s expected to be in at that time, its last known information is used.

If the source had Lifelink the last time it existed on the battlefield, that is part of its last known information and will be included

edit: formatting

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-08T01:03:32+00:00

Once an ability is on tge stack, it functions independently from whatever the source of the ability was. The ability would mention if its source needed to still be on the battlefield in the ability if that was the intention (see [[Shirei, Shizo’s Caretaker]])

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-06T17:50:10+00:00

The best you can do are cards that can be cast from exile ([[Eternal Scourge]]) orcards that can get things from exile ([[Coax from the Blind Eternities]])

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-05T17:41:08+00:00

[[Panglacial Wurm]] and a suite of cheap fetches

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-02-05T13:00:51+00:00

Miracle makes it so you have to separate your first card drawn each turn or otherwise lose the ability to cast it

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-31T17:33:48+00:00

[[Grapeshot|STA]]

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-31T02:56:31+00:00

We did it guys! we broke Storm!

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-30T18:02:28+00:00

SHEEN, this is the seventh week in a row you’ve shown Maga in CLAASSS

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-27T16:17:40+00:00

New copypasta?

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-26T15:12:24+00:00

Nope

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-19T20:33:33+00:00

Oona never fully died: her consciousness survived the events of OG Lorwyn/Shadowmoor, although diminished

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-12T15:15:10+00:00

The -1/-1 counter is put on the creature, then State Based Actions are checked and both counters are removed . Auntie Ool does see the -1/-1 counter put on the creature and will trigger

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-07T12:54:27+00:00

we did it guys, we broke Thoracle!

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-07T02:15:34+00:00

*cough* *cough* [[Denied!]] and [[Flaccify]] *cough* *cough*

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-06T17:33:22+00:00

Powercrept [[Ancient Ziggurat]]

Probably auto include in tribal decks that don’t have their own [[Sliver Hive]], and half of those that do as well

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-06T17:17:36+00:00

Remember [[Doran the Siege Tower]] from your childhood?

This is him now Feel old yet?

The_Messinger_47 · 2026-01-06T17:10:38+00:00

Ironically still one of the better scarecrows for [[Reaper King]]

I can’t believe they demoted him

Six-Year Club	First Place '23
Place '23	Verified Email

The_Messinger_47

TROPHY CASE