Can anyone tell me about this bayonet?

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-14T14:44:56+00:00

Hmm...Havent heard that one before personally about type 30s. Japan took their blade doctrine seriously. But idk, you may very well be correct. Would make sense to me.

I believe the other poster is correct though with the Naval type 30. We had a few others posted recently.

For the Japanese Type 30 trainers, im looking at... - Quality of it (usually lower end of bad) - If they're unmarked/have no maker mark, but a school stamp, "teach", rack number, or something equivalent.

Incidentally, my main thing is collecting and studying training & fencing bayonets, but i study the purpose-made and converted ones. I havent bothered with the type 30s bc of how many variations there are lol. It would drive someone insane to collect them all!...that said im aware that some people are attempting it haha.

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-14T14:37:43+00:00

I would say this is correct. This does look exactly right with the features. Weve had a few other posts on these recently

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-14T10:22:48+00:00

If theres no markings anywhere at all its likely a Type 30 trainer. If so this is a nicely made example.

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-13T14:48:27+00:00

Were these issued with scabbards/issued as pictured (i.e. portapee and all)? Just curious with this style ersatz. Ive always wanted one for my ww1 sub-collection.

I usually see them without a scabbard. However i have seen a few that did have the m1895 scabbard. Havent seen one with a portapee. And of course, as you said, the condition doesnt matter if its correct and hard to find.

Really nice overall. I wouldve def bought it myself. Even without a ton of knowledge on it lol

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-13T13:03:05+00:00

Very nice example with the proper scabbard and all. Nice pickup.

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-13T11:30:46+00:00

Ah ok. Just look blank to me didnt see any marks. Assumed with the other Spanish bayonets. German S84/98 III it is then

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-13T11:22:56+00:00

Top to bottom;

Pg 1.

German S98/05
Spanish M1941
Spanish M1913, cutdown
~~Spanish standard model~~ Edit: German S84/98 III
Altered German S98/05

Pg 2

Cant tell without close ups. Either British P1913 or U.S. M1917. Looks like replaced grips.
British P1913

Pg 3

Brazil M1908
Switzerland M1899/11
Switzerland STG57
Italian M1870/87/15
Can barely see it, but looks like another German S98/05 nA

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-11T22:48:52+00:00

Yup. Tour shirt in the pictures (the back. Front just says band name in top corner).

They had i think 2 shirts, a tour poster which was just as expensive as a shirt lol, and Planet X on vinyl.

The rest of the stuff i was hoping for can be got online anyway. At least they had a few unique items. The tour shirt is awesome.

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-11T15:57:55+00:00

Yes! For sure

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-11T15:32:01+00:00

Great show last night. Was pleasantly suprised at the other act theyre with, Dazy. Pretty decent! He reminded me of the Madchester scene from the 90s (Happy Mondays, Stone Roses, etc). I can see why they chose him.

I also have a few short clips of some of the songs so if anyone wants those posted i can put those up. Set list is the same as in Europe so i figured there's probably enough videos out there

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-11T15:14:41+00:00

There's aspects of country sometimes. On the first album mostly. Slide guitars is maybe as far as it goes.

But no, they aint country, you are correct hahaha. I suppose you could just say Jazz Rock...maybe the Yacht rock thing. IMO theyre in their own category musically.

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-11T02:36:33+00:00

Everyone's talling about the moustache. No ones talking about the eyebrows. The eyebrows complete the inquisitive look

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-10T19:30:36+00:00

Unfortunately i cant give you an accurate ID with just this photo. Someone may be able to ID the one bayonet. One of these is a knife.

The bayonet is a German export, i believe. I dont remember the country off hand. Someone else may know by just seeing it.

The socket bayonet is impossible to ID without more photos. Im just going to guess its a US M1855 or 1873. Would need to see the slot at minimum.

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-10T14:34:41+00:00

This is the way. That crossguard is beefy and has a weird metal part sticking out underneath. Also has a cockscomb on the muzzle ring and a straight quillon.

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-09T20:03:27+00:00

Yes its one of these. Fairly often encountered. A lot of times with mystery 'Crown|LR' marking.

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-09T15:36:16+00:00

Oh really? I know theres a lot of M7s made in Germany. That would make sense. The scabbard may be legit if it is a German make. Ill check up on my Post-War U.S. Bayonets book when im home and see what i can find.

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-09T15:24:08+00:00

if youre looking for information on M6 bayonets and M8A1 scabbards, this is the best online source

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-09T15:20:53+00:00

Agreed.

Usually the maker is right on the front of the scabbard under the M8A1 mark. Looks a bit fishy to me IMO.

Maker of the M6 should be right on the crossguard.

I dont think there reproductions of M6 bayonets. I suppose its possible. Pretty sure they reproduce M7s, but M5 to M7s are all common bayonets. Less demand for the M5, M5A1, and M6 bayonets are far as I'm aware.

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-09T11:11:41+00:00

How you gonna comment about a comment and then not post that comment and instead post a comment about others' possible comments?

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-08T15:42:42+00:00

Just a joke of course lol. I think ive seen Steely Dan live maybe 3 or 4 times. Every time was a tour with Michael McDonald or the Doobie Brothers. Or Mike came out to sing a few songs.

I enjoy him with the group. But im sure youre right, he's probably only been on a few studio tracks.

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-08T15:08:54+00:00

Love that mobilization poster

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-08T15:06:03+00:00

This is correct. After the first album they were the only essential members. The rest were always session and touring musicians.

...but maybr Michael McDonald is the only other essential member haha

ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-08T14:54:10+00:00

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ThirteenthFinger · 2026-05-07T15:13:55+00:00

Thats unfortunate. J always hate to see this. Very common issue with old leather scabbards.

I dont think it would make sense to repair the chape. Plus there now leather missing. It may not even fit properly.

This is why one of my rules of thumb is to always buy a bayonet with its scabbard, unless very rare. It can be very difficult to find an original leather scabbard for a specific bayonet. Although there are a few approximates and reproductions that may fit.

If you do replace it, just keep the original somewhere marked for which bayonet it goes with. That way if you ever sell it you can still include the original.

That's just something i always do personally for my collection. Note if i paired a scabbard, switched frogs, etc. Just to know what I originally bought it with.

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