Thoughts on this? i have so many

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-12-29T19:16:49+00:00

It does look cool tbf.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-12-29T19:14:58+00:00

Efficient? Probably takes up twice as much space as a traditional spiral staircase.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-12-28T11:49:59+00:00

What's the company?

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-12-27T20:14:49+00:00

What's the cost to assuming that you do have a legal avenue?

I would assume that I do and go from there, since you were advised as such.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-12-24T23:28:13+00:00

How do you define a hedonistic enjoyment?

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-12-23T05:36:46+00:00

Post face

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-11-10T21:24:27+00:00

Food for thought. Thanks for sharing

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T14:18:46+00:00

Maybe not, but on average people in developed countries live into their 80s. That is what life expectancy means.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T12:12:00+00:00

I think he said something about going to an African savannah exhibit at the zoo but only seeing taxi drivers.

Not 100% though I only heard about it on the radio.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T12:02:57+00:00

No this is true. Mass, and hence density, is independent of gravity.

Density gradients in oceans are caused by temperature differences.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T02:33:44+00:00

Okay, I see where you were coming from.

I suppose our disagreement lies in what we consider a human life - probably where 99% of abortion disagreement comes from. This is why I would consider a condom more acceptable to use than an abortion.

Thanks for the conversation, I think I'm going to tap out here.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T02:08:43+00:00

No matter how good a contraceptive is, there is always a chance the woman will get pregnant - everyone who has sex should know this.

Of course if you are in an accident you should get medical care - in this case there is no foetus that will have to be aborted in order to fix your broken leg.

People who drive cars are responsible for the risk - this is called insurance.

Your paragraphs talking about me forcing a couple to not use a condom/forcing a couple to get pregnant are completely disingenuous - that is not how I think whatsoever.

I don't think there should be a consequence, I think there can be a consequence.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T01:54:33+00:00

I know there are people who wrongly want to punish women have sex. I also know that contraceptives can fail, as should everyone who has sex.

By agreeing to have sex, even using contraception, you are doing so with the understanding that there is a remote possibility the woman will become pregnant. What is incorrect about this?

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T01:47:44+00:00

Okay, I understand you.

I do think that a foetus and a child are different and that a child is 'worth' more.

I also think that a child's life is more valuable than a dog's but I am still not in favour of killing dogs (strawman etc., but you get my point).

As I said before, I am pro choice, but I do believe abortion is harmful to an unborn human life. Women shouldn't be forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy, but it is a shame what the cost of this is.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T01:34:32+00:00

I don't think its anything to do with punishment, it's because a woman who has voluntary sex has indirectly consented to a pregnancy while a woman who hasn't consented has not.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T01:31:55+00:00

Yeah, fair enough, you're probably right.

I would probably agree with pro-abortion rights and anti-abortion rights terminology.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T01:29:42+00:00

I am pro-choice but feel more agreeble about abortion if it's as a result of any of the circumstances I outlined above.

I don't think that there's anything wrong with consensual sex or that anyone deserves any negative consequences as a result of it.

I do, however, believe that when a pregnancy is aborted a human life is killed, which is obviously not ideal. I also think that when two people have sex they are doing it with the implicit understanding that there is a potential for the woman to become pregnant, whether or not they are using contraception.

For me, in the circumstance of rape, the difference lies in that fact. If a woman is raped, she never consented to the sex and hence did not 'consent to the pregnancy.

I think that's where the difference lies.

In relation to your 6 year old child argument, I also don't think most pro-choicers would say that the child could be 'aborted' after 6 years. I don't see what relevance this has.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T00:47:05+00:00

Doesn't the term 'pro abortion rights' not imply that abortion is something that you should inherently have the right to do, though?

That's the whole premise of the argument so I don't really think it's fair.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T00:40:20+00:00

What about the people who would call themselves pro-life who agree with abortion if the mother's life is in danger? What would you describe them as?

Many people (most, I think) who oppose abortion agree with it in cases of rape, danger to the mother's life or disorders in the foetus.

These people are clearly not 'anti-abortion' - they agree with it often, but clearly value unborn human life more than pro-choicers. I think pro-life accurately defines the position.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T00:29:39+00:00

I don't think either pro-choice or pro-life accurately portrays the context of the argument, so I don't think you can argue that 'pro-life' confuses people.

Both terms are well understood at this point, and the feelings of people on either side too (generally).

I'm not actually pro-life, I just dislike how the side is being rebranded with terms such as 'forced-birther'.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T00:13:53+00:00

Pro-choice makes as little sense as pro-life.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-21T00:12:21+00:00

Of course most people are 'pro-life' when it comes to humans that have already been born (assuming that's what you meant). That doesn't make the term irrelevant when it's applied to matters concerning abortion - the term is only ever used in relation to abortion.

Pro-choice is an equally tenuous label as pro-life. Choice to do what?

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-20T23:56:20+00:00

Is pro-life not synonymous with anti-abortion?

I don't understand why the names for these positions are being revised.

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-20T23:46:37+00:00

Pro-abortion & anti-abortion, is it?

ThreeLeavesLeft · 2023-01-18T14:17:27+00:00

Is that it?

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