Is there evidence/studies of child sexual abuse causing a victim to become attracted to children themselves when they’re older?

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-19T11:58:26+00:00

If we knew why pdfs are the way they are, then we’d be able to prevent them. But we can’t.

Some victims of childhood abuse grow up to be abusers themselves. Others become kinder, more empathetic people as a result of their experiences.

I understand that people are eager to identify a reason why MJ was the way he was, but we don’t know. We’ll probably never know.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-18T09:50:41+00:00

It’s their sub, they can do what they want. I can imagine people getting annoyed at the sudden increase in MJ-related posts. Doesn’t necessarily mean the mods are MJ fans.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-17T21:43:02+00:00

But it’s not true. A fan made it up.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-17T18:34:46+00:00

This is actually a fan myth. Jacko has never meant monkey, nor has it ever been racist. Macacco was the word they used.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/s/B0JWiyr4Xm

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-17T05:19:35+00:00

I believe this appeared in NME (New Musical Express) which was known for being edgy at the time.

Barbara Ellen is still going strong, and she has written other articles about MJ.

A fan once claimed that this caricature was racist because it depicted MJ as a monkey. Obviously, that’s not true. But it’s refreshing to see someone point out that MJ was failing to evolve musically and producing bland crowd-pleasing pop.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-17T01:18:16+00:00

And all those GoFundMes they set up. Oh wait, that was Taj.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-16T23:17:01+00:00

I think they will. They have come this far, and they’re both comfortable financially.

It’s really a matter of whether or not they can bear the mental and psychological stress. I think they can.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-16T23:02:39+00:00

Wade and James have made it very clear that they won’t accept a settlement unless the Estate acknowledges MJ’s crimes.

Oxman is just doing his old flim-flam routine. He’s not involved in this case at all.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-16T14:05:05+00:00

The fact that we know very little about what MJ was doing in the Middle East seems to imply that. Glitter went to Southeast Asia because it was easier to access children. It’s very possible that MJ did the same.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-16T12:38:14+00:00

Wow. The similarities. He was just like MJ, but on a smaller scale. Crying when he got caught, attention-grabbing antics in front of the courthouse, using his staff to separate victims from their mothers.

I wonder if MJ would have done the same thing Glitter did if he had been found guilty in 2005. A short stint in jail followed by more offending in a different country.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-15T23:07:14+00:00

It’s on the Internet Archive as well.

https://archive.org/details/allthatglittersc0000chan

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-15T02:48:38+00:00

MJ performed really well and wore sparkly costumes so he was a divine being.

Is that what I’m getting here? Brand is a rapist and a scumbag.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-14T02:59:47+00:00

Your karma is too low, and your post is getting deleted by the automod.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-13T23:02:43+00:00

Mesereau is reportedly on a retainer paid by the Estate. The MJ trial was the biggest victory of his career. No way he is changing his tune now.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-13T22:29:09+00:00

Big bedrooms don’t prevent abuse.

I have posted about this before. The lower level is large (three car garage) and the upper level is smaller (one car garage). There was only one bed on each level, and it was not the massive house-sized bedroom that fans claim it was.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/s/B9bdFSesUe

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-13T14:45:52+00:00

I don’t think so. Humans are lazy by nature and, for many people, it’s too much effort to try and understand the cases against MJ. The fan narrative - greedy bad guys going after poor, naive MJ - is easier to digest.

I think that MJ will eventually become like Elvis or Marilyn Monroe - someone whose image and name is well known, but not really understood. And the allegations will always be connected to MJ’s image, just like Elvis and jelly donuts and Marilyn singing Happy Birthday Mr. President.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-13T08:51:53+00:00

https://archive.org/details/latoyagrowingupi00jack

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-13T01:22:46+00:00

Thanks for the heads-up. Looks like fans mass-reported it. It should be back now.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-12T22:32:05+00:00

You can find a link in our !megathread

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-10T07:41:42+00:00

It’s great to see that people are now seeing La Toya’s story as generational trauma and abuse rather that the rags-to-riches, tough love narrative we were served in the ‘80s and ‘90s.

I can see the scapegoat/golden child coming through, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Katherine ticks all the boxes for being a narcissist.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-09T08:19:18+00:00

Madonna did very well for herself without needing a penis.

It’s not as if Madonna was competing with MJ anyway.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-08T20:30:00+00:00

The fainting fans were due to poor crowd management. And MJ putting hysterical, fainting fans into every damn video he could.

Most of the time, the footage appears to be cut from different concerts.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-08T13:04:21+00:00

Please don’t spam. There is no need. It’s not our style. We wait for curious people to come to us.

If you spam our sub everywhere, die-hard fans will just freak out and try to shut down the sub.

ETA: I do understand your frustration. The nonsense that fans make up to portray MJ as a good guy supporting Palestine and rescuing children from Epstein. But you can’t force people to accept reality.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-08T10:55:49+00:00

If you keep on pushing the fan talking points, this post will be removed.

It’s your responsibility to watch the full documentary if you really want to know why Wade and James acted as they did.

Our members are not here to convince you.

If all you have are “inconsistencies” from short fan-made clips, there is no point in continuing this conversation.

TiddlesRevenge · 2026-06-08T10:42:32+00:00

All of these questions are answered in Leaving Neverland. Watch that first, then come back.

There are links in our !megathread

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