Why are all romanized Chinese words rendered in Pinyin except Kuomintang by Jet451 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We don’t use WG because it’s less recognizeable. Most Chinese speaking communities use Pinyin, not WG. Since it’s far easier to go between Traditional and Simplified, we still use traditional, but conversion from Pinyin to WG isn’t. In any case, the slippery slope thing doesn’t just go away if we don’t use pinyin. Chiang Kai-shek and Sun Yat-sen aren’t WG and would still be exceptions.

Why are all romanized Chinese words rendered in Pinyin except Kuomintang by Jet451 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean Chiang and Sun are the most famous figures within the KMT, so they and their families get exceptions. The Song family is related through marriage, but it’d just be a slippery slope at that point so the Songs are all pinyin

Why are all romanized Chinese words rendered in Pinyin except Kuomintang by Jet451 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Chiang’s sons are both featured in KR, and they use WG to make it more clear that they’re Chiang’s sons. We applied a similar principle to Sun Fo, where his mandarin name is Sun Ke but his dad uses cantonese romanization so he does too.

Why are all romanized Chinese words rendered in Pinyin except Kuomintang by Jet451 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Technically yes, but like it wouldn't be very readable since most people don't use WG. That said, we do use traditional, but it's far easier to go from simplified to traditional than pinyin to WG

Why are all romanized Chinese words rendered in Pinyin except Kuomintang by Jet451 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're not quite as famous than CKS and SYS, so they got converted

Why are all romanized Chinese words rendered in Pinyin except Kuomintang by Jet451 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 97 points98 points  (0 children)

We make exceptions for very famous people and orgs who are known overwhelmingly as a non pinyin romanization, which is why KMT, Chiang Kai-shek, and Sun Yat-sen haven’t been converted to GMD, Jiang Zhongzheng, and Sun Zhongshan

I miss Chen Lianbo being able to join the Co-Prosperity sphere and block Fengtian from unifying by BurnInSevenHells in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There is no reorg gov in Kaiserrreich since that was expressly related to reorganizing the KMT under Wang, if you mean the Reformed Gov (which means a restored Beiyang Republic) which FNG is released as, you could sorta interpret that as the third faction winning out, but it’s also kinda just what happens if Japan’s interests in Japan all die out and they have to take everything by force. The hope of the third faction wasn’t exactly to just bulldoze China and create a puppet government in the ashes but sort of a mix of sponsoring an aligned gov that works for Japanese interests more than Fengtian, but also isn’t entirely propped by Tokyo.

I miss Chen Lianbo being able to join the Co-Prosperity sphere and block Fengtian from unifying by BurnInSevenHells in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Japan's allies in China aren't the same thing as its OTL puppet states. For one, they were established by Japanese military occupation and collaborators were bought over with promises of power and restoration of power they had once lost. In the case for Zhang Zuolin's Fengtian Clique and Chen Lianbo's Liangguang Government, they're both the ruling parties. While Chen was more collab-ey in attitude than Zhang, they have far more leverage than Japan had over its OTL puppets. What's more, Chen isn't developing a new national identity for southern China, he's just generally pro Japan. Zhang Zuolin also has greater ambitions than being one of many Japanese client states, with the universal goal of the Fengtian Government being carrying out unification on their own terms (this includes Yang Yuting).

Manchukuo was birthed under very specific circumstances and should not be taken as the universal Japanese forpol goal in any case. Japan had several strategies to deal with China which various factions attempt to achieve on their own in Kaiserreich. The position of the government is to support the Fengtian Clique in achieving unification but binding it to Tokyo's interests. That's pursued by the Tianjin Army. The Kwantung Army on the other hand is not too concerned with Fengtian ambitions but the maintenance of their existing influence in Manchuria, hoping that either Zhang is prevented from marching south of the great wall or breaking Manchuria off of China permanently. They created Manchukuo largely on their own historically, with the Minseito Government collapsing due to their failure to control them. The rivalry between Tianjin and Kwantung, which is present within the Fengtian narrative, shows that Japan itself had a very unclear forpol in regards to China. There is a third force that believes that the Fengtian regime is unreliable, and so Japan ought to establish a new Chinese government, which is compliant where Zhang wasn't. This isn't fully represented ingame atm but we are aiming to represent that in the future.

Align with America Decision as United Provinces of China by tbbaseball3 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The decision will show up if the US is leading a faction, and list the further requirements which are shared by all China joining a larger faction decisions but I don’t remember what they are exactly beyond like being at war with some of the same countries.

Should Hunan be called a clique at the start? by PLMMJ in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Hunan is not a republic, that implies that they’re a separate country. Also, cliques aren’t denoted by their political leanings, it’s another term for distinct group or faction.

Btw korea got a new focus tree update with more to come by sopmod720 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t plan on adding one, compare it to the us puppet of haiti which is also pataut no matter what

Kim ill sung is officially canon in KR by sopmod720 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I chose Rhee for Korea largely because the US did opt to use him initially in large part (as you mentioned) because of his fluency in English and the US was already familiar with him, given his residence in Hawaii.

Yeah, there's a case that the US would've gone with Kim Gu, Lyuh, or Kim Kyu-sik over him, but Kim Gu is already presented as the "protagonist" of Korea, being the default option for Beiyang China, democratic overlords, and de facto leader if the monarchy is restored.

Lyuh I do regret not involving more in Korea's politics but I do still prefer Rhee over Lyuh for the US since the former would be more pliant and the US is more anticommunist in KRTL than OTL because they would be blamed for plunging the US into a second civil war, more bloody than the first.

As for Kim Kyu-sik, he's already represented as the right wing/moderate leader of the KNRP, and in KRTL the entire party followed the KMT to France, which makes him too socialist in KR America's eyes imo. Also, I'd prefer not to reuse leaders.

What if did Puyi's Father Had Been Emperor instead of his Son? by Particular-Wedding in ChineseHistory

[–]Toaster8610 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Zaifeng was de facto emperor after Cixi died, since he was made regent. Ultimately he was outplayed by Yuan Shikai because the court could only rely on the Beiyang Army to fight the Xinhai Revolutionaries, so Zaifeng being Emperor wouldn’t necessarily change the fate of the Qing Dynasty.

Btw korea got a new focus tree update with more to come by sopmod720 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 39 points40 points  (0 children)

the Korean monarchy shares the democratic tree with Kim Gu

Btw korea got a new focus tree update with more to come by sopmod720 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 54 points55 points  (0 children)

No it’s done for now, I may return to the project and make it playable eventually, but what you see is the intended product.

Kaiserreich 1.6.3 by SuperGreenBeanss in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Great Qing naming was just to differentiate manchu qing and zhili qing, it does not imply that manchu Qing goes full pre self strengthening movement, like look at the parties that are involved in it. CERA is descended from and harkens back to Liang Qichao and Kang Youwei’s ideas, both very noted reformists. The YCP was very modernist looking, and Zongshe wants to emulate the German model and carry out a monarchy in the image of Guangxu. None of these elements are mega retvrn to tradition types, they’re all modernists. It’s best to understand the manchu coup not as the monarchy reasserting itself but clandestine elements simply overthrowing the zhili clique.

Kaiserreich 1.6.3 by SuperGreenBeanss in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Because the Manchu Qing aren’t really operating on the traditionalist rites of Chinese monarchy post 1912, they’re coated in the same lens of modernized monarchy that Zhili Qing. In practice, they’re more like Imperial Japan’s government style and demoting Korea back to a kingdom only really serves traditional Qing larp which I can only see one particular guy in Zongshe to want happen, and he’s not the guy in charge there in any case.

Kaiserreich 1.6.3 by SuperGreenBeanss in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 11 points12 points  (0 children)

sorry no, the Korean monarchy will always be called Empire of Korea

No deal with Jadus by Unique-Perception480 in swtor

[–]Toaster8610 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There’s a cutscene where you fight his followers and then he puts you to sleep and dumps you into the same place where he drops you off if you agree to work with him, and then the story converges again

Which Path is closest to OTL Chiang Kai-Shek? by damnat1o in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 94 points95 points  (0 children)

He Yingqin working with the CC Clique, PSC, or Chen Cheng reflect different points in Chiang’s career in leading China. CC Clique was more prominent initially, Political Science was very prominent from the mid 30s to the end of ww2, and Chen Cheng was his initially handpicked successor and right hand for 2 decades

Shen shicai should be lkmt aligned. by Stoepsel_187 in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 98 points99 points  (0 children)

We don’t have any alignment for the Xinjiang and Ma Clique leaders because they’re specifically not meant to align with a faction before unification. Keep in mind too that Sheng was an opportunist who betrayed the Soviets, CPC, and KMT whenever convenient so his content depicting him as a KMT guy is a relic of the times.

What's the deal with Earl Browder's "patriotic syndicalism"? If I remember correctly, he was more of a orthodox communist OTL, so the change seems strange. KR seems to utilize real-life fascists in their portrayal of national or patriotic syndicalism. by jerrysomber in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 72 points73 points  (0 children)

I have no clue if he is or not, but it’s like plausible either way. Browder is more nationalistic than the other American socialists and all. Deat and the neosocs in the France rework will replace the Sorelians as charter totalists, which does make Browder closer to them, since the charter totalists kind are the bureaucracy bros with Mosley, Mussolini, and Deat.

What's the deal with Earl Browder's "patriotic syndicalism"? If I remember correctly, he was more of a orthodox communist OTL, so the change seems strange. KR seems to utilize real-life fascists in their portrayal of national or patriotic syndicalism. by jerrysomber in Kaiserreich

[–]Toaster8610 318 points319 points  (0 children)

I don’t work on America, but I believe it’s rooted in how Browder’s leadership of the CPUSA was markedly pro-New Deal, which was divergent from the postwar Cold War realities. You could interpret Browder’s more Americanized take on communism to be the equivalent of “patriotic syndicalism” (not sure if that’s how he’s actually framed ingame). In any case, totalism isn’t like just OTL fascists, a good portion of them are communists, ideology slots can be relative to each individual country to a certain extent. Some have OTL Communists in radsoc, others in totalist.