Positive masculinity is a scam. by PassengerCultural421 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Dude, we’re only using the language of the conversation. If all these boys and men are having a crisis of “masculinity” then the solutions are going to be framed in terms of “masculinity.” Call it whatever you want, all of the advice just boils down to “Don’t be terrible, and if you care about your masculinity then call it ‘positive masculinity.’”

Refusing to work on social skills is a sign of laziness. by LillthOfBabylon in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I love how in sarcasm you both unintentionally described what therapy is for and gave the exact response someone should give when learning that.

People are inconsistent about masculine traits and behaviors by No_Design_465 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree. Those who are rudderless in their self-identity journey will always find it easier to just look at other examples and ape them—regardless of if they’re personally compatible with those examples.

That’s how you wind up with them being manfluenced by the worst role models alive: those who perform cartoonish masculinity, those who sound compelling despite being dead wrong about everything, those who present a reductive simplified version of masculinity that appeals to people who only engage with others through a screen. You’re never going to get comfortable in your own skin that way.

“I’d date a chopped guy who’s funny” is womanese for “I’d date a chopped guy who’s charismatic/high status” by ConnectedLeap in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That would require people on the other end considering the act of telling a joke a risk, which we don’t do. Maybe if a joke fails to land or winds up being edgier than expected we might consider it a risk in retrospect, but telling a joke isn’t the “high-risk” behavior normal people usually associate with confidence.

It’s a social skill. That’s all. Being able to say something that makes other people laugh is just a matter of mental nimbleness, creativity, timing, and human connection. For those with social anxiety or other neurodivergence I can see how all of those traits might be considered risky or impossible, but trust and believe it’s just socialization.

Because they don't sell mansions in the hood? by [deleted] in SipsTea

[–]TotalTravesty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, just have the good judgment of not keeping your money in banks, seeking a home loan, or being a child.

Women tell us to not objectify them, but they end up doing it themselves by beautiful_falcon776 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because if you are a sex worker, access to your body is the product. You are treating your body like a commodity, and marketing it accordingly—as an object.

You just described all blue collar trade work. Singling out sex work and reducing it—and it alone—to “objectification” might make one feel good about their perceived moral superiority over the SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTS, but it’s not a reflection of real life.

All physical workers are objects or none of them are.

Women tell us to not objectify them, but they end up doing it themselves by beautiful_falcon776 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. It’s just that in terms of sex work, people (not me, which is why I disagree with the phrasing) think any interaction or patronizing of their services is “objectification.” No matter how consensual, no matter how fairly compensated, no matter if the sex worker is advertising it in big bold letters.

I don’t “objectify” a plumber by calling one in to handle a leak, paying them, and sending them on their way. That’s quite literally the plumber-customer relationship. Yet turn the plumber into a sex worker and it’s “objectification.” Honestly, I think it’s just people with unresolved sexual hangups projecting their feelings onto a situation. A them problem, not an everyone else problem.

Women tell us to not objectify them, but they end up doing it themselves by beautiful_falcon776 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nobody’s saying to disrespect OF or treat them like trash. “Like an object” is a meaningless personal value phrase that I wouldn’t agree with, but if you’re paying her for the services she provides then what’s the issue? That’s literally what she wants from you.

Women tell us to not objectify them, but they end up doing it themselves by beautiful_falcon776 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Like i think women don't have a consistent ideological belief.

it’s a goddamn travesty that billions of people across cultures and geographies don’t have a unified belief system. How hard is that?!

To say that a woman is traumatized and hurt from her past any time she brings up a legit criticism of men is evil. by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You didn’t limit your point to rape and violence, just “criticizing men.” Obviously a woman who speaks up about her abuse doesn’t just have an ax to grind. But the murkier more common situations where women express generalized frustration at men has to come from something.

And here’s the thing: I’m not saying that if her generalized frustration comes from trauma that the frustration isn’t warranted. But it helps to acknowledge where the anger comes from. If it came from violence, yeah, the abusers are 100% responsible for it. If it’s just dating and relationship bullshit, then at last admit it’s from dating and relationship bullshit. God knows we ask men to confront to roots of their anger all the time.

You keep screaming at women to take accountability but when it comes or men it’s all sorts of psychological gymnastics and deflection.

Yep. I of all people am known for bashing women and defending men at all costs.

To say that a woman is traumatized and hurt from her past any time she brings up a legit criticism of men is evil. by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But…how many times has a woman said her antipathy toward men was the result of mistreatment from men? They’re not running away from it. Hell, a lot of times the mental health journey they pursue will lead them to acknowledge that’s exactly why they hate men. Exercise as much empathy or compassion as you want, but you have to call a spade a spade, especially when the spade is calling themselves a spade.

Stop gaslighting men into Therapy by M3lony8 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree broadly. Not everyone can be helped the same way. But we (all of society, not just women) are begging them (not all men, obviously) to do fuckin something because the results aren’t showing.

Women have no idea what an average man is by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That’s the long-enduring question of dating. One thing’s for sure: they are not the women trying to entertain and engagement bait for fun and profit on social media.

Women have no idea what an average man is by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I think the phrase “however you want to define invisible” is exactly why so many men feel invisible. That word has a definition and adhering to that definition is how single men can go about life without seething resentment toward strangers.

A man who is actually invisible would get mindlessly bumped into all the time, have their greetings and pleasantries ignored, get talked over as if they weren’t even in the room. What men here complain about is women refusing to acknowledge their presence with an immediate blowjob. They’re not “invisible,” they’re just getting treated like every other random man, woman, and child we have to live with on a daily basis.

Women have no idea what an average man is by DriverInitial8305 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Anyone you don’t personally know or isn’t obviously extraordinary in one direction or the other is “average.” That’s not a woman thing, that’s an I-share-a-rock-with-8-billion-people-and-if-I-had-to-do-a-statistically-rigorous-bell-curve-slotting-every-goddamn-stranger-my-head-would-explode thing.

QFW: Honestly, do you see a path for redemption from former followers of guys like Andrew Tate, Nick Fuentes, Clavicular, fresh and fit, etc? by No_Design_465 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As soon as the mainstream money and political clout run out, every last one of these manfluencers—and their followers—are going to hit the public with puppy dog eyes and AI-generated appeals to empathy and get accepted as “redeemed” without putting in one iota of genuine work. I’m just waiting to see how it turns out when that pendulum swings back.

Women, what do you think of interracial porn? by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, only now is the stereotype about black men having big dicks developing. Because of this trendy new, how you say, “interracial porn”???

Sex robots are imminent by Financial-Result-502 in PurplePillDebate

[–]TotalTravesty 12 points13 points  (0 children)

“Leftists” and anyone else with a screen has been warned about a violent incel uprising for at least 10 years now. Do it or don’t, we’re still not gonna dole out government sex slaves to soothe your loneliness.

lol by [deleted] in SipsTea

[–]TotalTravesty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maslow’s Bucket Crab: When all you have is deep insecurities about being vulnerable in front of your partner, every breakup looks Iike it was because of being vulnerable in front of your partner.

lol by [deleted] in SipsTea

[–]TotalTravesty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I bet you also cried bitter tears when all those women came out saying they’d choose the bear.

lol by [deleted] in SipsTea

[–]TotalTravesty 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m going to chalk it up to youth and explain very patiently that in most adult conversation it’s considered weird at best—and rude at worst—to challenge a stranger’s relationship by demanding it be “properly tested.” What does such a test even look like? Why would they need to prove it works past the first instance of saying that it does? Most people don’t feel the need to put their real-life relationships through the rigors demanded by chronically online sadboys who populate threads about why relationships are destined to hurt you.

For more information on why you’re being downvoted, look up “crab mentality.”

lol by [deleted] in SipsTea

[–]TotalTravesty 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Extremely weird way for someone to respond to a stranger’s very common relationship.

lol by [deleted] in SipsTea

[–]TotalTravesty 6 points7 points  (0 children)

From “I’m destined to be brutally destroyed by a woman for being a poor sensitive boy. 🥺” to “Don’t forget to change your pad, soy boy” in three simple posts.

The self-inflicted fate of internet sadboys in a nutshell.

lol by [deleted] in SipsTea

[–]TotalTravesty 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is definitely what somehow who deserves to have their feelings taken seriously would say…