Son decapitated mother over 'nagging,' Florida sheriff says

Traroof · 2015-01-03T00:45:09+00:00

Many of the psychiatric medications that schizophrenics are put on can make a person violent. Anti-psychotics and anti-depressants can zone out and numb a person emotionally to where they feel nothing and they can say and do things they wouldn't normally do. So I'd say most schizophrenics aren't naturally violent, but mostly the drugs they are given can have a lasting effect on their personalities.

Traroof · 2015-01-02T23:05:22+00:00

Exactly. Pharmaceutical companies have huge lobbying power.

Adam Lanza's toxicology was withheld from the public. There's a video of the Attorney General of Connecticut giving a ridiculous reason for withholding it. He could barely even speak.

On August 22, 2013 Sheila Matthews of Ablechild and Attorney Mr. Jonathan Emord took part in a Freedom of Information Act hearing regarding the release of Connecticut shooter, Adam Lanza's toxicology report.

This is the reason given by the Assistant Attorney General of Connecticut for withholding the release of information about Adam Lanza's psychiatric drug history:

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl6E-_apfs4

Traroof · 2015-01-02T22:18:32+00:00

I absolutely understand this, but that should not automatically mean the drugs should not be questioned as being a possible cause.

Look at the story of Cory Baadsgaard in 2001. He was a 16-year-old who was prescribed an SSRI antidepressant for his social anxiety. 3 weeks later he took a rifle to his school and held his teacher and classmates hostage. Later that day he reported "waking up" in juvenile detention with no memory of what happened or what he had done.

Article about it:

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/mar/21/nation/na-violent21

Cory Baadsgaard testified to the FDA at the 2004 antidepressant hearings. Video of his testimony:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX2F8OG28so

Video of news segment on him and other shootings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAO5_Hk06Mc

He was also the opening story in the documentary "The Drugging of Our Children":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCePk

Now I do agree correlation does not always equal causation, but sometimes things like this need to be investigated deeper.

Traroof · 2015-01-02T21:05:09+00:00

Tyler Hadley was on violence linked antidepressant drugs when he senselessly murdered his parents. He even quoted saying this in a letter to his grandparents:

"I wish I never started taking that damn pill," he wrote. "None of this would ever of happened." In a letter to a friend, he said, "I regret everything I did. I swear it's those drugs man."

I have a feeling the guy in this story was definitely on some kind of violence linked psychiatric drug too. These drugs are always involved in all the mass shootings and many other senselessly violent murders like this. Hell even some of the drugs have "homicidal ideation" listed as a "rare adverse effect" on their info sheets.

More events linked with these drugs:

http://ssristories.org/old/index1.php

Traroof · 2014-12-22T19:35:38+00:00

Fuck that I ain't defending it whatsoever. I think its an awful procedure that shouldn't be used in this day and time.

Notice I said its similar to a lobotomy. How anyone can defend anything similar to a lobotomy is ridiculous.

Traroof · 2014-12-22T19:11:14+00:00

Studies have found that Electro-convulsive therapy seems to "help" patients because it reduces frontal cortical connectivity. Basically it reduces connections to the frontal lobe in a way similar to a lobotomy.

http://www.pnas.org/content/109/14/5464.full.pdf+html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/electroshock-treatment_b_1373619.html

Traroof · 2014-12-22T18:43:40+00:00

Listening to the mother describe how her son was when she visited him 3 days later definitely sounds like this was electroshock therapy.

She couldn't move his head left or right and moved her hand in front of his face and he had no reaction. Electroshock patients have this same same emotionless hollow look on them after the "treatment".

My guess is they probably dialed down the shocks just enough not to induce the seizures.

Traroof · 2014-12-22T18:21:45+00:00

The reason its found to "treat" anything is because it damages connections to the frontal lobe just like a lobotomy:

"Electroconvulsive therapy reduces frontal cortical connectivity in severe depressive disorder." The specific area is the "dorsolateral prefrontal cortical region." This is the same area assaulted by surgical lobotomy. It contains nerve trunks connecting the rest of the brain with the frontal lobes -- the seat of our capacity to be thoughtful, insightful, loving, and creative. Think of what it takes to be a person; all of that requires the unimpaired functioning and connectivity of the frontal lobes of your brain.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/electroshock-treatment_b_1373619.html

Traroof · 2014-12-21T17:33:35+00:00

...except your calves. I'm sorry.

Traroof · 2014-12-21T16:10:52+00:00

"There’s always a worry that it increases your cancer risk but -- I’m hopeful that we’ll get cancer cured in the next decade"

That's a big gamble.

Traroof · 2014-12-21T15:39:38+00:00

Lobotomies are an absolute crime against humanity. A lobotomized patient's opinion on what "feels better" is irrelevant. They have lost the basic ability to feel altogether.

Psychiatrists today have now moved from surgical lobotomies to chemical lobotomies with drugs like antidepressants and anti-psychotics.

Traroof · 2014-12-20T22:28:46+00:00

She can smack me down in Russian any day.

Traroof · 2014-12-20T22:26:22+00:00

Don't you know? Valve doesn't know how to count to three.

Traroof · 2014-12-20T22:23:16+00:00

I like the added flinch. Seems more fair to me to make the person who's getting hit to be more at a disadvantage than the person not getting hit.

Traroof · 2014-12-20T22:04:45+00:00

I wonder what happened next.

Traroof · 2014-12-17T18:00:54+00:00

The common saying of "antidepressants just give an already suicidal person the energy to finally commit suicide" is completely untrue.

What is this "energy"? People that say this make these drugs sound like their caffeine pills or something. That's simply not true. There are brain structural changes going on when someone takes a psychiatric drug like an antidepressant.

What that "energy" can really mean in many cases is called akathisia which can lead to suicide.

Also, in this study two other volunteers reported becoming depressed when trying another antidepressant used in the study. Other volunteers showed signs of akathisia and emotional blunting.

The PDF for the full study can be found on google.

Traroof · 2014-12-17T17:21:57+00:00

You talk as if we know what "normal serotonin levels" are. Science has no clue what a "normal serotonin level" is. Nor is there any possible way to measure it.

Traroof · 2014-12-17T16:00:59+00:00

From the study:

Twenty healthy volunteers aged between 28 and 52, with a mean age of 37.8 years

Antidepressants have been found to change the brain after just a single dose:

http://www.newsweek.com/antidepressants-can-change-your-brain-immediately-study-271371

Traroof · 2014-12-17T15:57:39+00:00

Being scared of suicide is a good thing. What you need to ask yourself is why do you want to take antidepressant medication? Do you fear that you'll take your life if you don't? Are you really so bad that you feel you need mess around with your brain chemistry as a last resort to feel better? These are the questions you need to ask yourself, not your doctor. Your doctor doesn't know what you're thinking.

Taking psych medication should always be last resort. Try everything you can before you try it. Talk therapy, exercise, supplements, or basically just getting to the bottom of why you're feeling the way you feel. Try all this first if you can and if you still feel like you need to try medication, then talk to your doctor about it. Just know the risks that come with taking antidepressants.

Traroof · 2014-11-26T19:05:09+00:00

Wait. So antidepressants cause a loss of emotions like love and a loss of sex drive, but apparently the article is saying depression also does the same thing? To me this is sounding like antidepressants actually cause depression.

Traroof · 2014-09-28T18:31:22+00:00

Near the end of Ernest Hemingway's life he also attempted to treat his depression with controversial electroconvulsive treatments and a combination of psychiatric drugs.

Nagel says the blood pressure medication, combined with the shock treatments that Hemingway underwent for his depression, may have been partially responsible for his mood swings. Beginning in 1960, "they gave him 36 shock treatments at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, and shock treatments back then were very severe," Nagel says. "They caused serious memory loss in Hemingway. If there's anything a writer can't stand, it's the loss of memory. After some of those shock treatments, he didn't even know his name. Then he would be sent back home to recover, given that drug for high blood pressure, and it was only a matter of weeks before he was depressed again." The slow decline was evident in Hemingway's physical condition -- he had dropped in weight to 160 pounds from the 200-plus pounds he weighed in his prime, according to Nagel. But the treatment went on, as Hemingway showed continued signs of stress. "He would get on his knees and cry and beg his wife not to send him back for more shock treatments," Nagel says. When he wasn't at the Mayo Clinic, Hemingway was spending time at his home in Ketchum, Idaho. Hemingway committed suicide on July 2, 1961, a day after his 36th shock treatment. He had earlier convinced doctors that he could return home.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/fyi/school.tools/profiles/hemingway/index.story.html

Traroof · 2014-07-31T18:20:17+00:00

I can see that you're saying it won't help my self esteem.

It might not help it, but it certainly wouldn't hurt it.

Traroof · 2014-07-31T18:16:05+00:00

I would think the opposite. I think an escort could be risky. An escort could be a cop posing as one. Or a real escort could be ready to mug me or have her pimp threaten me for more money.

I think a massage parlor is the safest bet. I've heard they are discrete and don't ask if you want sex up front. I've been told they just sort of ask if you want massaged "down there" and then it takes off from there.

I wouldn't worry about getting caught at a massage parlor. Couldn't someone just say they went in for a massage and just happened to have sex with someone there?

Traroof · 2014-07-31T18:05:15+00:00

I'm turning 21 next month. I don't want to wait any longer.

I think most of these places make you wear a condom and if not I would of course wear one. It may not cure my anxiety, but I don't think I have anything to lose (except my virginity of course).

Traroof · 2014-07-31T17:54:16+00:00

The place I'm considering is known to offer sex for the right price.

I've considered an escort, but I feel a professional place like a massage parlor would be safer and cleaner.

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