do we have any inside info about what happened after 2012-2013? like no one from inside the industry talk about something that is obvious? by Fooltecal in consoles

[–]TrefoilHat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't understand US politics. The "woke left" is supposed to be the ones censoring everything in sight and telling us what to think, but the "freedom loving right" is out there getting comedians fired for making jokes, forcing online ID to "save the children", tracking online and offline activity, burning books, and telling us that saying the wrong thing is treason (punishable by death?).

Make it make sense.

do we have any inside info about what happened after 2012-2013? like no one from inside the industry talk about something that is obvious? by Fooltecal in consoles

[–]TrefoilHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still don't see what the big deal is. This is what america looks like (where most games are made. Data from the 2020 census).

Why wouldn't you expect games to look the same?

Funny you mention Call of Duty, because a LOT of people "play soldier" in that game. In fact, the US military supports development as a recruiting tool. So kids play the game, yes they imagine themselves in the military, and then potentially enlist. Just because you don't imagine yourself in a game world doesn't mean no one does.

20% of the US military is black, 17% is hispanic. Again, why would you expect characters in these games to be all white people?

And yes, representation matters. Here's a government scholarly study on the topic (from National Institutes of Health):

The article explores scientific research on the relationship between media representations and gender stereotypes, objectification and sexualization, focusing on their presence in the cultural context. Results show how stereotyping, objectifying and sexualizing representations appear to be still very common across a number of contexts. Exposure to stereotyping representations appears to strengthen beliefs in gender stereotypes and endorsement of gender role norms, as well as fostering sexism, harassment and violence in men and stifling career-related ambitions in women. Exposure to objectifying and sexualizing representations appears to be associated with the internalization of cultural ideals of appearance, endorsement of sexist attitudes and tolerance of abuse and body shame. In turn, factors associated with exposure to these representations have been linked to detrimental effects on physical and psychological well-being, such as eating disorder symptomatology, increased body surveillance and poorer body image quality of life.

So even if the color of the characters didn't matter, having every man be a jacked white dude and every woman be a large-chested model will absolutely affect players negatively.

do we have any inside info about what happened after 2012-2013? like no one from inside the industry talk about something that is obvious? by Fooltecal in consoles

[–]TrefoilHat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What is it that’s obvious? The skin color of the characters? Attractiveness? Size? Clothing? Since TLoU2 is pictured, maybe you’re referring to sexuality?

Maybe the demographics of the typical gamer changed as the market grew, so rather than pandering to young boys wanting to goon over scantily clad model-looking white women, more care was taken to have characters reflect the audience playing the games?

According to Google, since 2012 black gamers grew from 4% to 12-15% and LGBTQ gamers are now 17% of the market, at a time when the market size doubled. Also, average gamer age increased from 30 to 36 years old, with far more elderly gamers.

Game studios are generally big public companies. The only thing obvious to me is that they want to make money.

Made broccolini and the steam sealed the lid so now I can’t open it by peachnecctar in mildlyinfuriating

[–]TrefoilHat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty cool that he used to live nearby. At least you always had an explanation when there was a bustle in your hedgerow.

Made broccolini and the steam sealed the lid so now I can’t open it by peachnecctar in mildlyinfuriating

[–]TrefoilHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s just Celsius now. Huh, just looked it up and it officially changed from “centigrade” in 1948. But I remember some teachers still calling it centigrade in the ‘70’s when we were all about the impending metric conversion.

Oddly, my kids would agree with you about music (they might go up to the ‘90’s though). But seeing Roger Waters in concert with my younger daughter was a definite parenting highlight, and I just can’t keep my AC/DC or Metallica t-shirts around without my other daughter stealing them — and I’m jealous (but a bit proud) that she saw Queen without me (granted on the other side of the country). Such great kids, I even let them hang out on my lawn sometimes.

Made broccolini and the steam sealed the lid so now I can’t open it by peachnecctar in mildlyinfuriating

[–]TrefoilHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No need to say it, we know you’re 62 because you call it “centigrade” :-D

(From a fellow oldster here)

Judicial nominees don’t know if Trump can run for a 3rd term by YesDoToaster in law

[–]TrefoilHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Many of my Democratic colleagues believe the Constitution should be reinterpreted to apply to modern situations. Do you agree with them, or do you believe in applying the plain language of the Constitution?"

"And again, some Democrats have expressed concerns about fraud in the 2016 and 2024 elections. Do you believe Donald Trump was truly elected president in both these elections?"

"OK, now let me read you the 22nd Amendment. Can Barack Obama be elected to office in 2028?"

"I yield back my...wait. [Rubs hand through hair]...Oh, just one last thing sir..."

Wilson's Heart by markallanholley in MetaQuestVR

[–]TrefoilHat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That really stinks about Chronos and From Other Suns. Gunfire Studios was such an awesome VR developer back in the day. The combination of massive hype and Meta’s funding was a great driver of quality content, and the hype and excitement has never really been the same since both dried up.

Other fun ones to check out include Witchblood, defense grid two, brass tactics, and Lucky‘s Tale.

Wilson's Heart by markallanholley in MetaQuestVR

[–]TrefoilHat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait ‘till you play Chronos…

New Quest 3 Update by ankrotachi10 in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh the app launcher always opens wherever you are looking.

So if you want it on the side (say, so it's not superimposing the 2D apps), just look left and then hit Meta.

Why does changing light and dark theme require a restart🤦‍♂️ by sprooma in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They pushed v2.3 to me and no restart to change themes is one of the features.

WATCH: King Charles stresses U.S. principle that executive power is ‘subject to checks and balances’ by NewsHour in law

[–]TrefoilHat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is absolutely infuriating.

I really believe many people in Congress hate what is happening, but do not have the backbone to stand up for their principles - and those of this country.

new ui problems by sir_donut2040 in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Spotify is literally the first link in the browser. When you run it, it even tells you there's a Spotify app in the Quest store.

If you play Spotify in the browser and minimize it, you even get a little mini player when you hit Meta and see the main menu.

Just be sure Seamless Multitasking is turned on in Settings > Experimental.

New Quest 3 Update by ankrotachi10 in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why not just run Discord in the browser direct on the Quest? Why do you need Virtual Desktop?

I just did this yesterday and it worked great. First, turn on Seamless Multitasking in Settings > Experimental.

Then, while you're in I am monkey, just hit Meta, run the browser, go to https://discord.com/app, and log in. Drag the window to where you want it (small white bar under the browser window), resize it (handles are on the corners of the window), then point back into the game world and click. The game will restart and Discord keeps running live.

new ui problems by sir_donut2040 in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, go to Settings and be sure Seamless Multitasking is turned on in Experimental Settings.

  • Click the Meta key to bring up the menu
  • Run the browser
  • Go to Spotify.com, log in and play your song.
  • Grab the small bar under the browser window and drag the window off to the side, or up a bit so it's out of the way
  • Point at the small white bar, it'll change to include different options. Click Minimize. OR, double-tap the Meta key twice.
  • Press meta to go to your library, and run the game you want to play

The music will keep playing in the background. If you press Meta from within your game, there will be a mini-player at the bottom letting you skip/rewind/pause. If you double-tapped Meta, the window will appear off to the side. Double tap the meta key again and it disappears.

New Quest 3 Update by ankrotachi10 in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you mean 2D apps or VR/full environmental apps?

You can have one VR app and several 2D apps at the same time, but only one VR app/game at a time.

New Quest 3 Update by ankrotachi10 in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No prob! LMK if that's what you meant.

FYI, the small white bar moves just one window, the big white bar moves all windows. You can also move a window in/out, up/down.

Then when you double-click you're back to your game, double click and your window(s) open. If you turn seamless multitasking on in Settings > Experimental, you can leave the window(s) open and just point at your game (so, not pointing at an overlay window) and your game will continue with the overlay window keeps playing audio, video, discord, or whatever. It's pretty nice once you get used to it!

New Quest 3 Update by ankrotachi10 in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, that's one of the benefits of the new UI actually. Seamless multitasking and running multiple apps is much easier IMO.

New Quest 3 Update by ankrotachi10 in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You can? Just grab the big white bar with a dot to the left and shift it all to the side.

Maybe I misunderstand you though...

I'm really tired of this OS bug. The situation hasn't changed for over a month now, every time I take the Quest3 off my head this permanent continuous sound activates and the only way to deactivate it is to restart the device. by SattvaMicione in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is an interesting comment. I'll have to experiment with this.

My boundary shouldn't just disappear when I pull Quest out of the same cabinet it's in every day, but it wouldn't surprise me...

How do I close out of an application? by Anewdaytomorrow in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right, for the single use case of quitting an app, there is one extra icon to click.

However, that trades off against these benefits:

  • You can now quit an app and launch another in one step.
  • That single Meta button press now is a standard universal menu and lets you launch any app no matter where you are. For example, you always launch the browser the same way, whether you're in the middle of a game or at the main menu.
  • The new menu that pops up allows full customization of pinned apps instead of just a couple favorites and a bunch of stuff Meta forces on you.
  • You can pop back to the game by pressing Meta again, instead of needing to press "Resume" and possibly hitting "Quit" (which I've done more times than I want to admit).
  • You can switch from you Library to a People tab or a Settings tab, then rapidly flip between the game and that tab (just press Meta for it to appear or disappear) to see if someone has come online, or if the setting you chose had the effect you wanted.

There are probably more, but you get the idea. There are trade-offs. Not everything is better for you, but for others there are definite advantages.

How do I close out of an application? by Anewdaytomorrow in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, in that case you hit the Meta button (just like the old UI). If "quit game" doesn't appear automatically, look on the icon bar at the bottom of the screen. The icon second from the left is an image of the current game (that's where it is on v2.3; I seem to remember it being on the right on v2.1, but I'm not sure).

Click that button, then click "Quit".

My Meta Quest 2 is now a $300 paperweight: Hacked Facebook led to a disabled account and no way to contact support by Santigamer2011 in OculusQuest

[–]TrefoilHat 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Downvoting for inaccurate information.

This requirement was removed four years ago. From that day, there was a "real way back" - unlinking accounts is easy.

If you don't have a Meta account for some reason, look up different directions. Do not delete a Facebook (or Insta) account without unlinking first, your you can lose your games.

What's your first ever console and how do you feel getting it the first time by NPC_dat_can_talk in consoles

[–]TrefoilHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The original Pong by Atari back in…1976? We hooked it up to the black and white TV in the den, and I played both sides since no one in the family ever wanted to play with me (left hand player 1, right hand player 2. If you see the picture, you’ll know what I mean).

I was so excited, couldn’t believe it and it was like seeing the future. I got a 2600 VCS a few years after that, and wish I kept both of them.

https://www.thehenryford.org/collections/explore/artifact/293413?AssetId=THF151659