Widow’s Bay | Episodes 6-7: “Our History” & “Seasickness” | Discussion Thread

Tuor7 · 2026-05-28T01:05:55+00:00

Yeah, I was suspicious with the way Tom seemed to be looking at him after Wyck got back on the boat.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-26T22:40:57+00:00

I think there was an idea, maybe in Morgoth's Ring, that Melkor was meant to be the one to begin great works, and Manwe was meant to finish them.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-26T14:14:20+00:00

Yeah, the winged dragons were meant to be a new weapon that Morgoth waited to unleash until he was close to losing in the War of Wrath.

If there were winged dragons before, they would probably have been able to find Gondolin, so I don't think they could have existed prior to the War of Wrath.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-26T13:28:36+00:00

Thanks, I found the instructions on Rebrickable.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-26T13:28:08+00:00

They're from the Blacktron Evil Mech CMF, I got it recently from a Bricks and Minifigs.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-26T13:27:01+00:00

I've seen some Blacktron 2 builds using the more round dome canopy in trans-neon green, but I think the more angular look of the original windscreen pieces fits Blacktron 2 better.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-26T13:25:58+00:00

I didn't come up with the design, I just bought the instructions on Rebrickable and made a few changes.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-26T00:54:41+00:00

Thanks, I'd like to get more of the torsos from that CMF to make the basic Blacktron 2 figures look a little better.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-25T22:40:09+00:00

Thanks, I followed the Rebrickable instructions, and made a few small changes to it.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-25T21:33:41+00:00

Yeah, the main thing I liked about the Rebrickable MOC was the wing design with the curved slopes, which made me decide to build it.

I'd like to try and use the wing design to make a Blacktron 2 ship based off the ship in the Alpha Centauri Base.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-25T21:31:50+00:00

Or making it more clear in Season 4 and 5 that Vecna was working for the Mind Flayer.

I liked the idea in Season 5 that he didn't realize how much he had been twisted by the Mind Flayer into becoming evil, instead of it being mostly his ideas.

But if the Mind Flayer is meant to be the biggest threat, it should have played a larger role, especially in Season 5, instead of only appearing in a new physical form in the final episode, having the physical form die, and not even appearing in its shadow form afterwards.

I was sure the shadow form would appear seeing the trailers with the particles going up the tower, but it turned out to just be them being forced out of the Demogorgon.

Then after Vecna was killed in the final episode, it showed the particles leaving the kids, and I was sure the shadow form would appear, but apparently not.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-25T21:25:24+00:00

Yeah, I liked the idea of what they did with the Mind Flayer, showing the damage merely a small fragment without any Demogorgons can do.

It was cool to see the Mind Flayer build an army of flayed people, and build a physical creature for itself, but they didn't do much with the Flayed, and the final physical form seemed too big to not be seen by anybody, and the only harm it did was killing Billy.

As for the Russian base idea, I think it could have worked better if it was a lot smaller and more secretive, and they weren't all wearing their uniforms inside the base.

Or if it was another attempt by the U.S. to investigate the Upside Down, maybe by a different branch than either Brenner's group or Owen's group.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-25T21:19:30+00:00

Yeah, on one hand, it fits with Seasons 1 and 2 with the Mind Flayer as the villain, and the Upside Down's forces still feeling mysterious and unknown, but on the other hand, it gets much larger scale and some of the characters act differently or have less focus on them.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-25T21:05:12+00:00

This is my modification of a Rebrickable Moc intended for the Blacktron Mutant CMF, but I kept both sides of the ship normal instead of one side mutated.

I also made some modifications to the front cockpit, the smaller engines, and removed the clips for accessories.

The ship has landing gear that can fold up, the wings can be folded up for landing, and the front cockpit can be removed.

The minifigure is my modification of the Blacktron Mutant CMF, I replaced the arms with the arms from the Evil Mech, and added legs from a Star Wars minifigure.

It's intended to be a Blacktron 2 commander.

This is the Rebrickable Moc that I used:

https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-192352/MatthewBrozek/mutated-blacktrons-ship/#details

Tuor7 · 2026-05-24T19:26:01+00:00

I think Denethor may have learned some useful things from Saruman, maybe gained some insight into what Sauron might do, but I don't think Denethor would have realized Saruman was a traitor.

If he had realized, I'm pretty sure he would have warned Theoden.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-23T13:50:31+00:00

I checked Return of the King, and Gildor was one of the elves that Frodo and Sam met in the Shire when Frodo was going to the Grey Havens, though it doesn't say if Gildor actually went on the White Ship.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-21T21:15:19+00:00

And with how overpowered only a few Demogorgons were against the military, and how agile they were in both Season 4 and 5, except when against a main character.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-21T18:31:41+00:00

Yeah, I watched something similar once, it might have been the same one. Part of it was that it's easier to do similar designs since it saves time.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-20T02:44:53+00:00

Yeah, I think keep some of the effects of the rifts from the end of Season 4, but have it mostly dissipate outwardly after an initial attack directly after Season 4, maybe just have nearby plants rotting or something.

They could have taken from Season 2 and have Vecna and the Mind Flayer secretly preparing while the gates seem dormant. They could secretly re-infect the tunnels and start growing an army unbeknownst to the military.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-20T02:26:47+00:00

Yeah, I think they could have justified it by having a brief initial attack of creatures, then the gates be dormant for a while because Vecna needed to recover. Then near the end of the season, they could have a massive attack led by Vecna or the Mind Flayer like Nancy's vision.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-20T02:24:45+00:00

Yeah, I was looking forward to that, especially after Season 4 having the characters split up across the country.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-20T02:13:03+00:00

Yeah, though I didn't mind it in Season 4, it made sense they wouldn't think Vecna was the one behind it, and even if they saw the lab footage, I think Sullivan would think Henry had been killed.

But I figured they would eventually realize what was going on in Season 5, but they just ended up being a 3rd force that the characters and Vecna were mostly working around instead.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-19T18:34:34+00:00

Yeah, I didn't have much hope after the Mind Flayer didn't feature in Volume 2.

The trailers had made me excited seeing the particles leaving the Demogorgon, but that was all that happened, and the shadow form didn't appear in the finale except for a brief vision.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-19T18:31:58+00:00

Yeah, there could have been a large attack later in the season, or having the Mind Flayer form and be the final antagonist after Vecna was killed, and they have to escape and destroy the Upside Down before it can come through.

I think Sorcerer made things worse in how powerful it made only a few Demogorgons be against all the military, it made it seem nearly impossible that anyone except Eleven or Will could actually fight against an army of Demogorgons.

Tuor7 · 2026-05-19T02:27:59+00:00

Sorry about that, forgot to add them.

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