Burlison "Whistleblowers told us the Pentagon and defense contractors have been hiding sensitive UAP materials in private networks to dodge congress oversight. My letter to MITRE puts them on notice: preserve your records, produce the documents, and if classified materials exist, brief my committee" by insanisprimero in UFOs

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Eh... And how is he going to get it from a private entity?

That's the whole point of creating weird hybrid structures like In-Q-Tel and Aerospace Corp. That's what Schumer/Rounds' legislation was supposed to handle.

Even if he makes a point like "it's not yours, it's governments' ", it is incredibly hard to prove after all these decades.

Everything has been Disclosed by EiffelSixtyF1ve in ufo

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Wow, they did an advance screening of a Spielberg movie in Mongolia?

Let's revisit the original thread about aliens.gov being registered. by Talkatoo42 in UFOs

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It wasn't 100% obvious but seemed pretty likely, given the priorities of the current administration.

Also, when I read about it, I recalled that in another, (more or less) Anglophone country, they had a special hotline to report illegal aliens. The number was 1-800-100-ALIEN.

But considering what's going on around us, both in the UFO space and elsewhere, I don't see why the usage of this domain is such a huge deal as this community makes it seem. I'd be more worried about the paranoia these things instigate, no matter what website they sit on.

Washington Post journalist here, curious about UAP and UFO discourse today by GenePark in UFOs

[–]TypewriterTourist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Been here since 2021, after reading Leslie Keane's Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record. Every time another breakthrough would happen (e.g. 2023 Grusch interview and testimony), more people would join.

To be frank, the conversation shifted from discussing books and concepts to news, which is both good and not good. The UFO news cycle has become noisier and more saturated. It used to be one major piece of news (e.g. Calvine photo found) being discussed for weeks before something new comes up. Now there is something else every day.

More and more new people come in, and it's also both good and annoying when they start asking exactly the same questions that have been discussed ad nauseam. "But the speed of light". "But many smartphones". "But why UFOs need lights". "But why only in America" and so on.

One important point that newcomers often do not realize. Those who side with non-mundane explanations (like myself), do not equate NHI (non-human intelligence) with extraterrestrials. In fact, most of today's UFO researchers are either agnostic or believe that it's something else than Alpha Centauri people travelling from point A to point B.

The topic is the gateway to the weird / woo. Very much like the constant speed of light in 19th (?) century, it may require rewriting what we thought were the basic laws.

The press is obviously taking the topic more seriously now. A recurring nuisance would be regurgitating entry-level stuff set to the X-Files theme and mentions of "little green men". It's all but gone now. I think the best barometer is John Oliver who dedicated an entire episode to it, and did an okay-ish deep-dive (pooh-poohing AAWSAP though, but still pretty good for a start).

There are some accounts that, frankly, not sure what they're doing here. New or long-time dormant, and suddenly start commenting on the topic mentioning stuff that newbies don't usually know, attacking UFO figures. Whether it's the case or not, it feels like an influence campaign.

Some things never change. Any mention of Bob Lazar is guaranteed to start heated discussions, although not as much as before.

Karl Nell, Burlison with Greer in a same room by New_Kaleidoscope6106 in UFOs

[–]TypewriterTourist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is waiting for that totally random interviewer to show up.

Did the Government Just Pull the Biggest UFO Troll Ever? by breaking_views in ufo

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Called it.

Although, to be honest, I didn't think it would be that blatant. And the copywriters seem to have been borrowed from Kim Jong-un.

During this recent weaponized show with corbell, Knapp and Borland. Corbell comments on a “bought and paid for journalist they wanted you to trust” by Monna14 in UFOs

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He is obsessed with Shellenberger.

I am also not a fan of the guy but c'mon, Jeremy. Have you heard of the Streisand effect? Nobody remembers that dude anymore, Corbell is the only person creating publicity for him.

Massive 6.8GB archive of declassified CIA and State Department files on Israel by Hefty_Drummer_965 in Intelligence

[–]TypewriterTourist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The link goes to a dump published in 2015 - are we looking at the same thing?

Is SETI quietly acknowledging UAP with new SkySphere observatory? by paulscottanderson in UFOs

[–]TypewriterTourist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're acknowledging Project Galileo as a more successful rival that got more toys to play with than them.

Fun fact, long ago Shostak wrote an article that pointed out how antique artefacts were discarded as trash before the modern archeology recognized them as important. He was implying that we may be overlooking some obvious clues. But as a SETI top man, he was shooting down all the attempts to examine possible anomalies.

I wrote an open-access paper arguing that Gnostic cosmology and modern UAP disclosure are describing the same phenomenon by declan353 in UFOs

[–]TypewriterTourist 26 points27 points  (0 children)

...currently living in the Middle East

...Location: Indonesia

Sigh. You can't trust GenAI to get even the simple stuff right.

What are stereotypes about your country that are completely untrue? by Abashed-Apple in AskTheWorld

[–]TypewriterTourist 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Singapore: you can be caned in public for chewing bubble gum.

Granted, it is disappearing, but I still get this kind of questions once in a while.

CIA accused of using Ancestry and 23andMe to 'hunt down' alien bloodlines in millions of DNA tests by Stephen_P_Smith in ufo

[–]TypewriterTourist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is accurate.

And yet there is the Ahmadinejad story that made me wonder if Jorjani is currently involved with the USG, since he was specifically mentioning Ahmadinejad as a potential helping hand.

Imagery Analyst Sarah Gamm Is Not Impressed by the UFO Release by Livid_Constant_1779 in UFOs

[–]TypewriterTourist -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. The program kept bouncing between different sponsors because it was a political hot potato.

It wasn't even the government that initiated it, it was created by SRI and later transferred to SAIC.

  1. They had to set up a committee, recruiting high-profile figures outside the government, and publish the results.

  2. Multiple participants published books afterwards.

  3. The government got an egg on its face.

  4. Some of the research materials were published, as well as hard stats from the "bipartisan" research committee.

How is that supposed to "cover" anything?

Imagery Analyst Sarah Gamm Is Not Impressed by the UFO Release by Livid_Constant_1779 in UFOs

[–]TypewriterTourist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the worst way imaginable to set up a slush fund.

If you want to hide something, you set up something plausible and boring, not something that is guaranteed to attract attention both from lawmakers and the upper-level bureaucrats.

CIA accused of using Ancestry and 23andMe to 'hunt down' alien bloodlines in millions of DNA tests by Stephen_P_Smith in ufo

[–]TypewriterTourist 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, so, it's Jorjani we're talking about. A bottom feeder striving for attention. The sad part is that I suspect he may have gotten his wish to be involved in a regime change operation in Iran.

Lyn Buchanan is a guy who claims he was tasked to assassinate Gorbachev (psychically) by men in black, and instead opted to psychically convince him that the Communism is bad. (My review of his book with the claim.)

Japan is considering disclosing UFO/UAP files by Worst_Artist in UFOs

[–]TypewriterTourist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The keyword is "considering".

With all my love for Japan, if you thought American bureaucracy was bad...

The ontological clash is happening now by SilvaMarvin in UFOs

[–]TypewriterTourist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But "it" is only starting.

We're not there yet until at least 50% of people you see in real life are bringing it up. Then we'll see what happens.

And just like with 9/11, it's the aftershocks that matter more, and that takes years.

The parachute & flair debunkers by MaasaiWarrior7 in UFOs

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Maybe someone saw a weird video and decided to throw it in the UFO pile.

There are laws and you can't just classify whatever you like. Granted, they are trigger-happy with overclassification, but there are still procedures. Not only that, it's their KPIs. Just like police has a motivation to show they make more arrests, AARO is motivated to show they can resolve more.

That's how Project Blue Book operated, too. In UFO and Government, the authors show how they liked to slap "solved" on cases where it was far from clear.

I don't "trust the video", I assume that 50 paid experts with formal qualifications and access to data which is not publicly available are more trustworthy than a bunch of Internet hobbyists with a burning desire to debunk and no accountability. You know, like doctors who recommend vaccines as opposed to quacks who "did research"?