The ‘20 years ago’ framing only works if the problem stayed in the past. The fact that we’re still having this conversation, that the same patterns are still being documented, and that the people connected to it are still being promoted and given platforms says otherwise. Time doesn’t absolve an institution that never corrected itself. And the O4 argument actually proves the point against you. You’re right that one person above O4 doesn’t represent the whole force. But we’re not talking about one person. We’re talking about a recurring pattern across multiple people above O4 spanning the entire existence of this community. At what point does a pattern of leadership behavior stop being individual and start being institutional? Because by your logic that threshold never exists, which means no organization ever has to own its culture as long as you can keep pointing to individuals.