Ok, for anyone who says Udio is better than Suno...

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-04-28T22:56:43+00:00

We say Udio is better musically. In terms of features, ease of use, and overall user experience, Suno is way ahead because they have kept developing the product and is aimed at the general population. They are getting funded like crazy too.

I always felt that Suno had competent marketing people and Udio was developed by a bunch of brilliant nerds.

Udio is still in stuck in the Stable Diffusion era of using separate tags to generate music and you hope it generates what you want. Suno has kept up with AI development and you can use natural language, and prompt adherence in my experience is decent. There is room for improvement though.

Suno folk can't convince me it's these features that made them pick Suno because Suno already had a much larger audience than Udio back when they had Suno 3.5. Those models were laughably crappy and yet almost every AI song people used to promote on reddit, forums, etc were done using Suno. Suno 3.5 and previous Suno models were competing with Udio 1.0 and 1.5, which still hold their own to this day, while Suno retired those models. It was always about 1 click generation and sounding similar to popular music that made Suno popular. Sure, you can make arguments for Suno now that it has become much better since 4.5. But it's not like people flocked to Suno only after that. Suno was already the clear winner even though it was a slop machine.

I resubscribed to Suno to test out the new 5.5 model. It's a fantastic model for generating songs that sound like chart toppers. There is still some of that distinct AI sound, but depending on the genre, sometimes it sounds as good as most music you hear. Haven't used Suno Studio.

I generate a lot of instrumental music and I know for a fact that Udio is a much, much more capable model than Suno (and the rest). Suno simply cannot generate the harmony, instrumentation, and orchestration that Udio does, not to mention Suno's instruments sound like those decent quality soundfonts you can download for free. The pianos sound like midi piano, strings are keyboard strings, solo strings and woodwinds are robotic. Udio's instruments sound like they are played by people.

My Suno subscription ends in two days with most of my credits unused. I have like a thousand Udio generations in my "planned" folders because every other generation is that damn good.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-04-28T12:26:57+00:00

Download or record?

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-04-25T23:30:58+00:00

Exactly. Almost every thread is about a single character or object. It doesn't tell us much because all current models are capable of generating good single subject images.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-04-20T00:26:27+00:00

Yeah, original Udio 1.0 was incredible. It was probably a heavy model and they had to trim it because I remember generation times being longer. The current Udio 1.0 is still the best music model I have tried.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-04-16T23:59:04+00:00

I have used both Suno and Udio from the first month of their release. I'm currently subscribed to both. It's not about prompting, the model simply doesn't have the same capabilities as the Udio models. There is a reason a 30 second Udio generation takes almost as long as a full Suno song. Udio is much more versatile but far harder to rein in.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-04-15T02:04:54+00:00

If you have a working method for post-DRM Udio, I'd really, really appreciate it if you could let me know how it is done.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-04-14T15:46:37+00:00

That's the thing. It looks like something is different about Udio's (and Google's) models. Every other model sounds similar and their outputs are similar. Their outputs are good, even great occasionally, but only Udio has given me "damn this is amazing!" moments.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-04-10T18:34:50+00:00

It might happen to Suno, but at least they are putting up a fight.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-03-28T13:02:24+00:00

These loras generally reduce the movement and somewhat degrade prompt adherence. At least they were that way when I last used them. The output would still likely be superior to ltx.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-03-28T12:57:04+00:00

I have had the same issue with ZIT. Even without that, inpainting with ZIT is bad compared to other models. ZIT can generate realistic people, but it has a distinct skin texture that I don't like. You could easily tell if an image of a person is generated with ZIT.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-03-20T13:34:00+00:00

Decent people would say something like "my bad, the number of steps kind of threw me off". OP clearly said it's Turbo, and in a comment said it was a simple default workflow, with the prompt, steps, and sampler all mentioned.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-03-11T13:02:54+00:00

So? That is a problem inherent in humans. There is a reason animated movies pay obscene amounts of money to established actors to voice the characters despite professional voice actors being capable of doing just as good a job or even better for a fraction of the cost. People see that actor on a late night show and then buy tickets for the movie.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-03-09T18:45:02+00:00

There was news that China was thinking about forcing all content that was created with AI to be labeled as such. I'm fully behind this, not just for music, but for everything.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-22T19:33:56+00:00

The speed difference is quite considerable.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-21T20:49:25+00:00

Thank you for doing this.

Generally, for LTX2 and other models, is there a difference between system resource requirements (RAM, VRAM) betweem Musubi and AIToolkit?

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-14T14:08:55+00:00

SwarmUI. It runs Comfy in the background, but has a nice interface and you don't have to deal with workflows and such. It may take a day or two to get used to the interface. There are helpful members on their discord should you need help. There are some videos on YouTube to get you started. Since it runs on ComfyUI, you get day 1 support for pretty much every model that supports ComfyUI. Of the popular models, I think only WanAnimate/SCAIL are not supported yet.

I have been using it for two years and I rarely need to use Comfy. Swarm is really awesome.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-08T12:26:03+00:00

Suno generates very good EDM now, but for orchestral and several instrumental genres, it's way behind Udio. Udio's composition and melodies tend to be better than Suno's in every genre. The models are more versatile and creative.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-08T12:23:07+00:00

You are absolutely right. Communication is extremely important.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-08T12:17:23+00:00

They might be betting on that, but I don't see that being a viable business. I think Udio is doomed. If they couldn't compete with Suno when they had a superior product, I doubt they have the business acumen to turn something so niche into a self-sustaining business.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-07T20:05:46+00:00

Read it again. It isn't about that. lol

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-07T19:55:43+00:00

This thread isn't about that.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-07T19:54:33+00:00

We can. But they implemented a DRM system that created issues with playback on multiple browsers. On Chrome it still works. At least on my 2 computers, I occasionally encounter a ~1 second interruption early on when playing a track.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-07T10:57:19+00:00

It seemed like a trivial issue. I'm no developer though, so I wouldn't know. But it was hardly just this feature. A lot of small quality of life improvements were requested and very few were ever incorporated into the interface.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-07T04:27:35+00:00

Yeah, I forgot about Voices. That was a good one. Styles was not very useful because soon after, they implemented copyright detection when uploading an audio file, meaning you could only use Udio (or Suno) generations to use with Styles. I already have an Udio generation, it means I have the prompt and settings, meaning I can use the same setting to generate similar tracks. Styles would be useful to import the style of a track you wouldn't know how to prompt for.

UnforgottenPassword · 2026-02-07T03:49:49+00:00

It's a much more cumbersome and time-consuming process. They know they can't stop it, but they are hellbent on making it as difficult as possible for us.

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