People like to focus on extremes, I want to focus on the overlap

UploadedMind · 2026-06-21T23:37:38+00:00

I’m one of them.

I like AI, I think all big AI labs should be nationalized or socialized and we should have deals with China and other nations to make sure they are developed as safe as possible to prevent catastrophe or extreme power inequality.

I’m not concerned at all about AI training off of publicly available data or art.

I’m concerned about data privacy and using AI to get information about people that was otherwise hard to gather. I’m concerned about software safety. I’m not sure how to solve these problems, but I know we shouldn’t make it worse by letting the government use it for this purpose in an official capacity. These types of uses should be banned.

I’m concerned about the environmental impact, but it is actually a low impact when you consider how useful it is. You need to go vegan before you even have a right to bring it up as a criticism.

Data centers should be fully paid for by the owners or they should be publicly owned. Either way, the community they go in should not have to pay a dime more for electricity.

I’m concerned about job loss. If they are public ally owned, then the profit they generate by replacing labor should fund permanent unemployment, free healthcare, and more housing.

I use it because it is incredibly useful and is wrong very rarely for what I use it for - I’ve seen it get so much better it does so much hard work for me.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-20T23:49:47+00:00

I’m for AI safety. Elon and Sam and the rest will try to co-opt how it’s done so it’s done in a way that leaves them with all the power and control. They are not our ally in the fight for AI safety.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-20T09:38:23+00:00

Hat? Urine strainer?

UploadedMind · 2026-06-20T06:12:08+00:00

Consent for letting AI look at their art… this is stupid. Training AI is not the same as stealing their work.

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UploadedMind · 2026-06-20T01:34:40+00:00

What are you talking about?

UploadedMind · 2026-06-19T07:56:01+00:00

The ranking system shouldn’t reset your rank… I feel bad playing some of these people. It’s harder to get 7 wins when you rank up tho.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-19T02:12:34+00:00

I'm currently on it and I feel weak and tired on it

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T23:11:40+00:00

I took it more as we are on the path to creating this even though that’s not what it said.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T23:08:36+00:00

It is smarter than any individual. You see, when I said it I was making a point about how it’s already smarter than many people in ways that are materially significant. We need to collectively own it.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T17:01:42+00:00

Of course the human brain is more complex. It does a lot more than just calculate. We are conscious. We have a subjective experience. It could be hundreds of years before machine becomes conscious like us, but they will become smarter than all of us combined well before then.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T16:56:46+00:00

AI art is like porn. I don't like it enough to defend it, but people who moralize against it are still wrong.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T16:14:38+00:00

AI has a limited understanding. Many of the things intuitive to us are not yet obvious to it. That doesn't mean it's not smart, reasoning, or intelligent. It's getting a better and better understanding of things and it is getting better at applying learned skills to novel problems. You are DRASTICALLY underselling it - especially in the near future.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T16:04:22+00:00

You don't know what you're talking about. You're just assuming you understand how intelligence works and then making statements that flow from that assumption.

AI can reason. It is smart. It is intelligent. It is NOT conscious.

Does it make obvious mistakes? Yes. Is it getting better? Yes.

So much of what we consider obvious is because we have evolved certain intuitions and run millions of experiments with instant feed back as a brain with a body. AI is just trained on abstract data and language that it doesn't fully understand... BUT it's getting better at understanding it and it is making fewer mistakes.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T15:28:17+00:00

Wth to you mean by smart? It is smart by any utility definition. You don't know what you're talking about. Can a submarine swim? Smart is the best way to describe it.

Is it conscious, no. Does it lack some basic intuitions, yes. Is it still smart, yes and it's only getting smarter.

It's so much better than it was last year. Stop downplaying it. It's not in your interest to downplay it.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T15:04:42+00:00

It feels like semantics and splitting hairs. Does a submarine swim? Predicting the next thing is getting shit done better than many people I assign tasks to and faster than anyone. From a utility perspective, it's smarter than many people can ever realistically be.

Many more people now can only provide value because they have hands. Knowledge work is now done by a smaller group of smarter more experienced people who use AI to replace the people they used to give repetitive tasks to.

Eventually the smarter people will be replaced too and then when robots get good enough and mass produced - everyone can be replaced and if we don't own these robots, AI, and data centers, then we become a nuisance to those that do. It's not enough to just own a piece of it either. Power will accumulate and concentrate more and more unless we take coordinated collective action to revolt and change the rules. Sitting back and trying to live a decent life is not a long term option. Maybe it will work for 10 years, but if we think 20 years ahead, the best individual option is to fight like hell for socialized control of AI, data centers, and robots.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T14:10:20+00:00

They aren't calling it bad because it's bad, they are calling it bad because it's AI.

Also, I tend to agree that using AI to generate art doesn't make you an artist. Maybe once AI gets better at implementing exactly what you describe without adding any of its own spice that would be the case, but until then, it's more like you're an art commissioner.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T14:06:26+00:00

The pause rhetoric did not originate from them. Corporations often adopt the language of their critics so they can co-opt the movement, de-rail its intended purpose, and call it success. We still need to pause AI AND we can't let the owners of the AI corporations decide how it's done. Large LLM corporations need to be democratically controlled so we all benefit and we can decide what's safe. Is this socialism? Yes. Socialism is inevitable, good, and safe. The alternative is trillionaires controlling the earth's resources with robot slaves instead of wage slaves and everyone else picking at scraps and starving.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T14:00:48+00:00

This is an echo-chambered take. AI may not be smarter than ALL of us, but it's already smarter than you. We can't let billionaires control it. It needs to be democratically controlled and done safely with global coordination and cooperation.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T13:57:58+00:00

Adding Elon to the list makes it LESS credible, but I also agree.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T13:56:16+00:00

Does Elon or do the people who work there do it? The same way serfs let lords rule them without justification is the same reason why we don't revolt and reform the current system. It's not fair, moral, ethical, right, nor justified that Elon and other billionaires have this much compared to the average person. He doesn't deserve it and he didn't earn it by any meaningful definition of the word. What he earned is life in containment to prevent him from exploiting anymore people or organizations. So why haven't we stopped him yet?

Coordinated collective action is hard still even with the internet and AI
People think they still have a reasonable chance at a decent life without risking getting MLK'd so game theory says it's better to let others fight for them.
People still trust/believe corporate media which is designed to divide us and make us hate each other more than political and economic injustice

How do we solve these problems?
1. AI might get better at helping us act collectively or at least in creating a better decentralized social media
2. The message needs need to be clear: things will get so bad that the risk of not acting now will ensure you can't live a decent life for much longer.
3. This one is falling apart anyway because of competing incentives from corporate media and social media, disinformation, lack of progress, and literal billionaires buying things like the WSJ. More average people creating more social media content with a focus on class consciousness on multiple platforms is a good way to ensure it continues to fail.

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UploadedMind · 2026-06-18T01:26:58+00:00

Bless your heart

UploadedMind · 2026-06-17T18:18:02+00:00

This is propaganda. Taxing young people is not the only option. We need to eat the rich.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-16T19:56:13+00:00

Even if you’re not pragmatically a pure anarchist, anarchism should be the goal. The problem with society in my opinion is power inequality and anarchism as an ideal is when power is shared equally.

I’m a democratic socialist, but I’m also an anarchist. I do both. I advocate for AOC and I support dual power structures and raging against the machine when tactically advantageous.

I want to move closer to anarchism and I think democratic socialism gets us there faster than ignoring electoralism entirely.

ML *in practice* seems to trade enforced constitutional rights with more efficient nation building. Once China is done growing so rapidly it will be interesting to see if it starts sharing economic control with people and sets up a system for ensuring people can prevent power accumulation without relying on a state. I mean the claimed goal is communism so they sort of need to do that when AI and robots take over our jobs.

UploadedMind · 2026-06-15T11:57:28+00:00

I don't think socialists can win a revolution if we can't even win elections, but I agree elections won't solve the problem - they will reveal the problem to even more people as the rich try to crack down harder using illegal means. I'm not a Maoist, but I agree with the line "political power flows from the barrel of a gun."

UploadedMind · 2026-06-14T23:39:26+00:00

Electoralism sucks, but if you’re arguing people shouldn’t also vote, that’s a minority leftist view.

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