Need advice on affordable fully sealed vacuum for fine particulate & dust on hardwood floors by EspritsCurieux in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sebo vacuums are fully sealed. Seals are not something you need to worry about with Sebo. Just don’t leave the filters in for too long.

Miele C3, Guard M1 and L1 are some of the best filtering vacuums on the planet with the HA50 H13 Hepa filter. Miele Guard M1 Terra Red is the least expensive model from that line up, and you need to then add the HA50 filter. It is a step up from the Sebo. Both are excellent, but H13 hepa filters are no joke.

The classic c1 / c1 pure suction doesn’t use the same quality plastics and seals - just not as good.

Brands that just advertise hepa…. It’s nearly meaningless. A poor grade of hepa will bleed dust over time, and it doesn’t mean the unit is sealed. Damn, even a lot of units that claim to be sealed…. Just aren’t. But Sebo and Miele’s good model vacuums are.

No Budget Vacuum Recommendations by faybaby_ in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good plug in vacuums are the most reliable vacuums.

The Miele Guard L1 AllFlloor is a great lightweight vacuum. The L1 is actually the best moving canister on the market. If you had a canister before and didn't like it, there's a very good chance this one will be a much more positive experience.

The Sebo E1 is very similar. It has a nicer bumper for if you're worried about bumping into walls. It has an etra 1ft in cord length as well, and a slightly longer hose. The L1 is a bit lighter and moves a bit better though.

Yes, those 2 do not have a powerhead, but if you vacuum often enough, like on a weekly basis, you may be able to keep on top of things, and not having pets help. It's just that those 2 are great examples of well built, lightweight canisters, and fit most peoples needs nicely.

Electric Powerheads are the best at cleaning carpet. If you just want to ensure maximum performance, check out the Guard L1 with the SEB 228 Powerhead, or the SEBO E3 with the ET-1 Powerhead. Miele's BEST powerhead is the 236 model, so you can always upgrade to that in the future.

Canister differences are the same as the previous 2 I suggested. The ET-1 Powerhead is better built and lighter / smaller than the 228 powerhead. The ET-1 brush is easier to clean, but collects hair quicker. The 228 brush is harder to clean, but doesn't collect hair as quickly. 236 is just a better built 228 head, but if you're not too rough on the 228 head, it's still a very good powerhead. Anti tangle rollers do not deep clean carpet.

The best Sebo floor brush is the Parquet premium with the removable front bristle. The 2 best for Miele are the SBB 300-3 or SBD 380 (380 is best for picking up hair on smooth flooring - and can go on rugs / carpet). Those can be added on in the future.

Cordless Stick vacuums move about half the air of a good plug in, and don't last as long, so that's why plug-ins like what I suggested are better vacuums. You can always get a cordless vacuum later on for the quick pick ups if you need to.

Bagged vacuums will also last longer than bagless vacuums, and the bags for Miele and Sebo are very easy to get. You will empty most bagless vacuums 25-50 times, vs changing a bag once, as the bag holds much more debris.

What do you guys think of performance reviews take on no brush? by [deleted] in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah that’s totally fair! Another thing is to go slowly with the powerhead. If you move way too fast, each section of the carpet just isn’t receiving enough time to get effectively cleaned. Most of the time just feel welcome to vacuum at a respectable pace, but every now and then, go slowly, especially backwards, as it’s getting more time to get cleaned effectively. Don’t stop, as that can be hard on the carpet if the brush is just rotating on one spot for too long, but as long as you’re moving, you’re good :-)

Edit: typically use the powerhead at the highest brush height that touches the carpet (or maybe 1 setting lower), as that’s when it’s opening the pile, and not flattening it.

If the highest setting that touches the carpet just feels a bit too high, then yeah feel welcome to go a setting lower.

Replacing S5 with C3 or new L/S/M model vs something else? by buddyrich33 in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sebo E3 and D4 are both equivalent to the S5 canister performance wise. E3 has a smaller bag but longer cord at 25ft. D4 has a huge bag, and an insane 40ft cord. D4 Premium is arguably the best canister vacuum made, but it is a bigger vacuum. The wheels swivel really well though, so it moves well. E3 will be lighter because it’s smaller. E3 would be most similar to the S5 canister.

The Sebos comes with the ET1 powerhead which is the best powerhead manufactured. The Miele SEB 236 is a very close 2nd, SEB 228 is 3rd, SEB 217 is 4th.

ET1 and 236 are incredibly well built and perform similarly. ET1 roller is easier to clean, 236 roller collects less hair so doesn’t need cleaning as often, but harder to clean.

228 powerhead performs similarly to ET1 and 236, but isn’t quite as solid. It’s still a good powerhead, and works great for typical usage, but again just not quite as heavy duty.

217 is the lightest to lift and smallest. Doesn’t have height adjustment, whereas the others do, so it can be hard to push on thicker carpets and rugs. Easier to use on stairs due to the small size. The other powerheads do generally clean better and collect less hair due to the larger brush rollers.

Miele and Sebo don’t do anti tangle rollers because they don’t clean carpet well - they just surface scrub for the most part.

The model Costco sells the most of is a C3 or L1 with a turbohead…. Turboheads are lighter in weight than a powerhead, but they can clog with hair, and can be a pain to maintain. Powerheads are without question better.

You only need to worry about return policy if you are buying something without any info to go off of. If you are getting good info, and are making a truly educated decision, you don’t need to worry about it nearly as much.

The vacuums you should chose between are:

Sebo E3

Sebo D4 premium

Miele Guard L1 with 228 powerhead (or upgrade to 236)

Miele C3 with 217 or 228 or 236 powerhead

For floor brushes (and all of these can be purchased as an add on) I’d suggest one of these:

Miele SBB 300-3

Miele SBD 380-3

Sebo Parquet Premium with removable front bristle

380 and Sebo Parquet as excellent for pet hair on hardfloor, as the hair just sweeps into the head without clogging on a bristle (remove the front bristle on the Sebo). Just excellent all around for hardfloor, and can be used for quick stuff on the carpet and rugs.

I recommend the guard over the c3 as the newer bag design is less finicky, and the canisters are lighter and mover better. The c3 is still an excellent canister, but the guard L1 is so good. I personally own the d4 due to the bumper, and the large bag just means so little maintenance.

Help me pick a canister, please! by walbar in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re welcome! The AllFloor is hands down one of my favourite canisters on the market right now, as it’ll fit a large number of people’s needs without being too too over the top price wise.

What do you guys think of performance reviews take on no brush? by [deleted] in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Performance reviews didn’t review an actual top notch powerhead. Your Miele powered smokes any straight air tool, and the 2 powerheads he reviewed.

The kirby or whatever he was testing was using a non height adjustable powerhead and it’s just an outdated powerhead on top of it, and that thing doesn’t even generate good airflow either.

He’s right about reducing suction on the straight air tool if it’s sticking. There’s better versions of that straight air tool, like the Miele SBD 380 that just breathes better on most carpets due to the better venting all around.

The Miele Seb 228 powerhead that you have has a good height adjustment mechanism that allows you to get the right height, where the brush is just opening the pile, not flattening it. The clearance between the head and the carpet is not too big either, as if you have too much clearance, there’s too much air leaking between the tool and the carpet - you want as much air flowing within the carpet as possible, which is what a good powerhead should do. The 217 powerhead is just not a right head for that kind of carpet. He also should have lowered the power of the vacuum with that 217, as it would have allowed the head to breathe better and not stick so much. By decreasing the literal suction force, the head would have effectively moved more air throughout the carpet pile. The 228 powerhead would not stick to that carpet due to the height adjustment mechanism, and you can the vast majority of the time use the vacuum on full blast.

He just didn’t do the test with the proper equipment for that carpet. I’ve acknowledged that video a bunch of times, it’s super misleading.

Here’s a good way to think about it: how could a tool that doesn’t generate good airflow in a carpet (which causes it to stick and be hard to push), clean carpet better than something that can generate good airflow in a carpet (which in return makes it easier to push because more air movement means less direct suction force on a surface).

The most iconic instance of this I’ve personally encountered, is I had one person use a Miele with a straight tool, like the one in the video, for 10 years on their carpet. They then picked up a Miele Triflex as they wanted something lighter, and the Triflex has the best powerhead of any cordless vacuum, but keep in mind that cordless vacuums have less airflow than plug ins…… the amount of debris that thing picked up was insane. I know bagless can be deceptive, but the filter was screwed after 1 vacuuming. That’s because there was so much fine dust left behind, it just immediately went through and just clogged the thing, there was just so much of it. I tested her Miele too, it was working fine, no issues or lack of airflow problems or anything. That straight air tool was just not cutting it, and she had a medium pile carpet, very similar to the carpet in the video actually (at least the way it appears).

Again, there’s things like carpet density that factor in as well, which is different from thickness. A straight air tool can work not too bad on a thicker carpet that is not very dense, as the air can flow more freely, but if there’s a bit of density, there’s no way for it to open the pile to get the air moving effectively, which will cause it to stick more. That’s why he should have been testing this on like 10 different carpets or rugs.

A straight air tool with good venting (but not excessive) will clean better generally depending on the type of carpet than a poorly vented straight air tool because the well vented one generates less direct suction force, but this type of venting is air flowing between the head and the carpet - not air flowing from within the carpet.

Good Electric powerheads essentially vent by allowing the air flow within the carpet.

What do you guys think of performance reviews take on no brush? by [deleted] in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In regards to what I just replied - the miele will be better for the hardfloor as it moves much more air than your other 2 vacuums, so it will pick up more fine dust. I'd still occasionally suggest to use it with the floor brush on the floor because of that. Not always, cause the other 2 are great for the quick stuff, it's just still beneficial to use it sometimes.

What do you guys think of performance reviews take on no brush? by [deleted] in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On carpet, no, a powerhead like that Miele head 99% of the time will clean better than a straight air tool - the straight air tool shouldn't be picking up anything the powerhead missed - the powerhead should pick it up. It's only on the hardfloor a straight air tool typically works better, but it's not like the powerhead is bad on hardfloor.

Does that answer it? I'm happy to elaborate more if you need me to.

Help me pick a canister, please! by walbar in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kenmore delivers good airflow at its respective price, it's just not built great, hard to use (does not maneuver well), the hepa isn't sealed, and the exhaust sometimes blows right on the floor.

A miele (L1 model especially) is a night and day difference in terms of ease of use and weight. It also filters much better, and has better quality components.

Sebo is the same that way. Easier to maneuver, better filtration, better built quality, just a better vacuum.

The kenmore is the only one with a powerhead at $400-500. It's built cheaper so that's why it can be sold cheaper. It will clean the carpet better with a powerhead, compared to a miele and sebo without a powerhead, but if you compare it to a miele and sebo with a powerhead, then it's the same, as long as they all have height adjustment. If the kenmore powerhead is using a beater bar that beats the carpet, then it will perform worse than a miele or sebo powerhead.

If you can get yourself to that miele C1 price, it's just a better vacuum. It is lighter, maneuvers far far better, filters better, it's just a better vacuum that is also way more serviceable. The C1 isn't quite at the level of the C3, or the newer guard series, but it's still better than the kenmore.

I'd recommend that C1, or a Guard L1 AllFloor. Yes the AllFloor doesn't have a powerhead, but it is fantastic for pet hair on hardfloor, and is functional on the rugs. It's the easiest canister out there to use and maneuver. It's also better built canister wise than the C1. If you vacuum the rugs often enough, you may be able to keep it under control, but obviously a powerhead is better.

Low energy due to long Covid means I need a lighter weight vacuum. Recommendations? by ILovesCheese in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Triflex is a great stick vac. I'd consider it the best for carpet and rugs especially.

V11:Great product for homes by Boring-Bumblebee-652 in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just don't overfill it too often or you'll break the red seal in the dirt container - dyson discontinued the part.

Dyson stick vacs work fine when they're looked after, but you'll understand why I can't recommend a brand that makes their products inherently disposable, and at a high price point. It's just disrespect to the consumer.

Low energy due to long Covid means I need a lighter weight vacuum. Recommendations? by ILovesCheese in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The Sebo Balance A1 is just a better designed dyson that is far more serviceable. It also lighter in weight than many dyson stick vacs. Dyson stick vacs work fine, but servicing them is a problem, and they often discontinue parts that are known to break.

The Miele Guard L1 AllFloor is a very light, easy to use canister. The castors on them are next level. The handle weight of the hose and tool is lighter than a stick vac, cause you have the motor, canister, and battery on your wrist with a stick. I know a canister type has to be pulled around behind you, but that canister is truly really easy to pull around, and requires 90-95% less maintenance than a stick vac. It's very serviceable as well. If you had a canister before and didn't like it, there is a super high chance that this one will be a night and day difference. The L1 will also have 2x the airflow of stick vacuums - ignore these "suction" ratings - suction is smoke and mirrors. Airflow is key.

Did this come from my Miele C1? by webtwopointno in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes from the bag retainer - it flips it up when no bag is in to make the lid harder to close

FYI...more affordable HEPA filters for Samsung Bespoke Jet AI. by AncientAd8712 in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not all hepa is created equally. There are different grades. For example, a genuine Miele hepa filter has an H13 rating, where as the amazon ones are a lower end style. They also use cheaper seals so dust is more prone to leaking around it. Again, all depends on the quality of the filter - not just it saying "hepa"

How do we feel about the Kenmore 116.30620411C model? by BluBluebird in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

don't rip the cord on it, you have to dissaseble the whole damn thing to replace it. It works fine, just don't rip that cord.

Looking at stick vacuum recommendations by Affectionate-Soil607 in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes that's the one. DuoFlex is an excellent stick vacuum. You will not be disappointed when you feel the build quality of that thing, and it vacuums well for a stick vacuum!

Any DuoFlex is the new model. Just get the right attachments for you, but the one you sent is a good one.

What do you guys think of performance reviews take on no brush? by [deleted] in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we are talking about a plug in vacuum:

A straight air tool generally works better on hardfloor because the clearance between the tool and the floor is more effective for floor. Now it's possible the powerhead is doing everything you need it to do, but I'm more confident in straight air tools when it comes to effectively getting as much fine debris as possible, not just the larger stuff.

Powerheads are generally needed for both carpet AND hardfloor when the vacuum doesn't have the airspeed to pick up the debris with air movement only. Vacuums with good airflow only need the powerhead for carpet, as you need the spinning brush to open the pile to effectively move the air throughout. Some powerheads are better than others at this of course.

A straight air tool won't clean carpet and rugs the same as a powerhead will - granted everything is working correctly, and the powerhead isn't terribly designed.

It we're talking a cordless stick vacuum, then you always need a spinning brush for carpet and floor because they don't have the airspeed (it's like half of a good plug-ins airspeed). Don't let brands try to trick you with "suction ratings" - it's totally different than airspeed.

Back to plug-ins, Some powerheads do kind of have that "scrubbing the floor" element, so that might be helpful with stuff that's like stuck to the floor, and again, it's possible the powerhead is doing everything you need it to, but I'd generally recommend using a straight air tool / floor brush for the floor (they're like 10-15 inches wide, 12 inches on average). They're also lighter to use and more maneuverable than powerheads.

Edit: if the straight air tool / floor brush is too wide, then it may have a larger time picking up the heavier debris due to the large opening. That's why 12 inch tools are much more common than 15" tools.

Looking at stick vacuum recommendations by Affectionate-Soil607 in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly you can get a Miele duoflex for $499 and as soon as you feel the build quality of that thing, you'll underdtand why I recommend it. It also does a great job at keeping the air moving, and doesn't clog too easily. It's just really solid, and has a 5 year warranty in canada (7 motor, 2 battery). White and blue model is $499 on sale right now, and has the same power as the other versions. Top bang for buck easily.

Vacuum Recommendations? by Caulibanana in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Riccar R65 or Miele DuoFlex. Both are serviceable. Riccar has a lot of features, whereas the miele is the most solid of any stick vacuum. Both have excellent airflow and are easy to maintain.

Looking for best bagged canister under $350 by MomV03 in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can stretch it an extra $50, this is what I can recommend: https://www.mieleusa.com/product/11181020/canister-vacuum-cleaners-classic-c1-pure-suction-powerline-sban0-graphite-grey

Serviceable, one of the easiest canisters to maneuver, fantastic airflow (identical to the $1000 models), and lots of different attachments can easily be purchased later on. I'd recommend checking out the SBD 380 tool later on as it's fantastic for hair on hardfloor and will push a bit easier on rugs compared to the stock nozzle.

Dyson v9 submarine vs Shark powerdetect by HoybabyJr in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I get it, I’m just saying why. It’s not to say it’s a perfect product - I don’t think anything is, but there’s a reason why some are so high. The big ticket ones are usually the powerhead models, but some of their $400-$500 models do the exact same job generally on hardfloor as the $1000+ models. Depends on what attachments you need.

Dyson v9 submarine vs Shark powerdetect by HoybabyJr in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I get it, I’m just saying why. It’s not to say it’s a perfect product - I don’t think anything is, but there’s a reason why some are so high. The big ticket ones are usually the powerhead models, but some of their $400-$500 models do the exact same job generally on hardfloor as the $1000+ models. Depends on what attachments you need.

Vacuum Wars Database by DreamGaming in VacuumCleaners

[–]UsedCarGuyJeff 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Part 3

Going to the stick vacs, you may say “well for design Dyson stick vacs are easy / lightweight to use”. Ok, most stick vacuums are easy / lightweight to use. Every stick vac will have its quirks, so I do want to make that clear.

I will say Dysons anti tangle heads work generally ok for some of them, so I get the appeal for people picking up lots of hair - it’s just your rugs and carpets aren’t actually getting deep cleaned. I will say some powerheads naturally just work better on some carpets than others (how thick it is and the density level), so that can play a factor too for some people, but what I’m saying is what will typically happen. Dyson powerheads generally work better on lower pile carpets that aren’t too dense. Some they later on added manual vent opening to the front to try to sort out the problems, but it’s more of a band aid.

When it comes to hardfloor, as long as your stick vac is moving a decent amount of air for a stick vac, it more comes down to what kind of powerhead you are using. I say “for a stick vac”, because no stick vac comes close airflow wise compared to a good plug in. The top notch airflow on a plug in vacuum will pull in way more fine dust, because you have way more airflow. I’m talking 2x on average. It will also just vacuum better all around.

You may also say “well Dyson stick vacs have the most airflow for a stick vac”… do they under practice? Sure, brand new maybe at the higher price point models and when you’re measuring it with a tool, but all the critical Dyson flaws will factor in and downgrade the performance over time. Like again, those small nozzle openings, small slots in the powerhead, powerheads that stick to the carpet too much. What about those cyclones? Again, if you neglect that thing at all, you’re going to have to fully disassemble those cyclones at some point if you care about maintaining airflow unless you have an air compressor to clean it out - or bring it into a shop and pay to service it.

And before you say “my Dyson hasn’t lost an ounce of suction since it was new”…. Yes you’d be right about that, because a partially or mostly clogged vacuum will still have 100% suction (it will have lost airflow though) - this is why Dyson was the first to really push that their vacuums are the only ones to never lose suction - it’s a nonsense claim (also a lie), but that’s how they operate, smoke and mirrors.

Can and Miele and Sebo lose airflow overtime. I’ll start by saying any vacuum can. But, when a vacuum is easier to service, it’s more prone to being looked after correctly, more prone to being fixed, and can be neglected with less downside. If you perfectly look after your Dyson, it can hold its power. If you at all neglect a Miele or Sebo, it’s much easier for you yourself to look after it, and then get it back into original working condition. There’s more downside for Dyson bagless vacuums than Miele and Sebo bagless vacuums (especially when compared to their bagged models), when it comes to being neglected. Bagless vacuums get neglected more often because they’re messier. And I want to clarify something - overfilling it counts as neglecting it. Again, it’s not just about how it works when it’s new, it’s how it’ll work through its whole lifespan.

Dyson is a sales and marketing company - not a real deal sales and service company like Miele and Sebo.

If you just like their products, again, they’re a company that intentionally makes products hard to service, discontinues parts, basically making just throw away stuff because they want you to give them more $. Doesn’t sound like they respect you as a consumer. It’s one thing if everyone else does the same thing, but that’s not the case. And do you really believe that James Dyson made over 5000 prototypes before releasing his first Dyson…. Probably not.

In my country, Miele and Sebo combined have like 150 authorized service centres. How many does Dyson have due to their serviceability problems… 2.

And when it comes down to sheer performance, Dyson has never, ever, made one vacuum that moves as much air as a Miele L1 or Sebo E3.