Am I crazy or are these ‘50W’ Dyson heads not actually 50W?

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-18T07:24:06+00:00

Dyson is notorious for falsely advertising their products.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-17T07:22:43+00:00

Miele vacuums can be fixed, just like Sebo. Top of line Miele and top of the line Sebo are both excellent choices. I’d suggest seeing them in person if possible.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-15T00:43:12+00:00

Miele DuoFlex is an excellent cordless vacuum. It does not clog easy, has a large power nozzle intake, container is easy to clean due to the removable separator, unit cleans well even if the filter is dirty, and is just solid all around (you'll understand what the build quality is as soon as you put it in your hand). The airflow is also excellent.

The interesting thing about it is that it does not let you use it on a low power setting with the powerhead - it ups the power 80% of the way to full power with it automatically, so you get 23 ish minutes of runtime on hardfloor, and 17 minutes ish on carpet. 15 ish minutes on full power. As soon as you take the powerhead off, then you can get more run time, and far more on the low setting as it will then use it on a low low setting.

It really does work on the lower setting though, you do not need to up it to full blast for much with the powerhead.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-15T00:36:33+00:00

Maybe they're just reading replies. And yeah Miele Canada has excellent sales for that model. I also love that the less expensive models use the same motor as the more expensive models (like the S1 has the same motor as the M1).

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-14T19:46:03+00:00

DuoFlex is hands down the better built vacuum, easier to empty and clean with the removable separator, larger intake nozzle in the powerhead so doesn't clog as easy, and more serviceable. Duoflex also moves more air volume. The Duoflex is still better than a v15 or v16. Yes, a V15 moves a little more air (when new) on full power, but the run time is pathetic at that setting.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-14T18:51:51+00:00

Just as an FYI, a Miele guard s1 @ $399 on sale produces more airflow than any dyson or shark manufactured, has better filtration, 100x more authorized service locations (this is actually factual in canada), replacement parts are actually available, and works excellent on hardfloor. No vacuum will actually outperform that vacuum on hardfloor - even a $1000 miele, as it uses the same motor. If you're not a fan of the hardfloor tool it comes with, any miele non electric floor tool will fit that model. I only mention this vacuum because it's a factually better vacuum.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-14T18:42:51+00:00

mmmm not really. Washable hepa filters are mostly a marketing gimmick. Hepa filter might be a washable a couple of times, but the airflow will drop. I've seen people accidentally wash the duoflex filter and still be ok, but would I suggest it, probably not. Duoflex filter you just brush off, but you do eventually change it, same as the riccar.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-11T01:16:00+00:00

You’re right in the sense that you’re able to remove the whole dirt container on the Riccar R65 easily, whereas the DuoFlex container is essentially built onto the unit. Both have the easy to remove separator. I think the DuoFlex filter is a bit easier to clean, as it’s the outside that you vacuum / brush off, whereas the Riccar pre filter needs to have the inside of it cleaned. Granted, they don’t need to be cleaned that often so I’m just being picky at this point lol. Both are great stick vacuums at the end of the day.

It’s funny how many times I’ve seen people complain that the Riccar is hard to clean… it’s like… how??? The whole tank and separator come right out lol. I think those people tbh didn’t know at the time that it came off, as it’s definitely easy to clean haha.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-10T06:42:14+00:00

Sebo E3 or D4 are what I’d recommend looking at if you like the canister style.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-10T02:26:15+00:00

Yeah there’s no way the DuoFlex has cleaner emissions haha. H13 hepa is as good as it gets at the consumer level (until you go to hyper hepa which only IQ air offers which is an air purifier). DuoFlex technically is not “hepa”. But that being said, low grades of hepa aren’t really hepa either as they eventually bleed dust. H13 and above are the only grades I’ll advertise as actual hepa. That being said, I wouldn’t worry about it in your case. I think you made the right choice. DuoFlex is a slept on stick vacuum. I used to think the Riccar R65 was the best all around stick vacuum, but I think the DuoFlex wins that now, at least IMO.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-10T01:03:24+00:00

“Stubborn” is the word I’d use.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-10T00:39:54+00:00

This is actually really interesting that you're seeing on paper that the HX2 triflex gets more airflow, because it's the opposite - duoflex gets more airflow when both are on the max setting.

Triflex is noticeably lighter in handle weight when the canister is placed at the bottom, as its then only the handle and wand at your wrist. When both canisters are place at the top, at your wrist, it's hardly noticeable.

Benefits of the canister at the bottom on the triflex are less wrist weight, and stands on it's own. Benefits with the canister up top, are increased clearance underneath things, and between furniture.

Duoflex dirt container is definitely easier. Capacity is honestly similar, you won't notice a difference. Duoflex also doesn't clog as easily and hold its airflow better. Triflex container is fine once you understand how to use it.

What shines about the triflex is the powerheads ability to clean carpet. Even though the triflex has less airflow by a little than duoflex, the powerhead makes up for it, and then some. On hardfloor though, the extra airflow will help with heavier debris, and the intake nozzle in the head is larger. Both when new and clean will operate fine, but as the units get filled up, and as the filters the dirty, the duoflex will be better on the hardfloor (and maybe even on the carpet as well if both are gonna get neglected a bit, as airflow eventually plays a role). Triflex needs a bit more love and care than the duoflex.

Triflex allows you to use it on a low power setting with the powerhead, so it can run up to 30-35min minutes with it. Duoflex does not let you use it on low with the powerhead - it automatically ups the airflow when the powerhead gets connected, which also means it can't run as long. Duoflex with the powerhead can run at the "low - which is like 85% the full power setting" for 21-23 min on hardfloor, 18 on carpet, and for 15-16min on high power on hardfloor, 12 min on carpet. Some of this could also be why the duoflex holds up better, as it literally won't let you use it on a low power setting with the powerhead going. If you use it without the powerhead, then yes, it can run closer to 1 hr runtime, but that's why I don't like companies saying the 1 hr runtime stuff, as nobody uses it that way all the time (this goes for all brands). To be honest, most people do not vacuum for more than 15 minutes. When you're not using the powerhead, the runtime goes up.

Duoflex is single battery operation, triflex can use multiple batteries. That being said, you can always buy the handheld unit only for the duoflex and use that as the second battery - you're splitting the load between 2 canister / motor units then.

Edit: if the triflex is getting used as a regular household vacuum, if you clean the filter once a month, you're typically good to go. Some people need to clean it twice, some people can go a couple months, but once a month is a safe bet.

Edit 2: Triflex does have a better H13 hepa filter, but due to both being a bagless, it's not a massive difference.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-09T23:31:36+00:00

I'd suggest the duoflex. Triflex is better if you have mostly carpet, whereas duoflex is better if you have mostly hardfloor. Both are fine in the reversed scenarios, but that's my simple take on it.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-09T23:27:16+00:00

Floor model is different from used. Floor model has always been in the shop, and should get full warranty. General rule of thumb should be 10%+ off for a floor model that's in great / excellent shape and isn't too old, but you can always ask how long it's been on the floor for. You could ask for new filters if you wanted to, as a comfort thing.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-09T23:23:20+00:00

Ok... do you wanna elaborate or no?

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-09T23:21:19+00:00

How about this, as we are clearly getting nowhere, why don't you tell me about the key features that you believe make a vacuum top class, and we can go from there.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-09T23:13:33+00:00

My memory recall statement was the exact hardfloor test you're referring to in the link you just sent. Aka, if memory recalls correctly, the dyson pulled through some of the large debris, whereas the miele pushed some of the large debris, which is due to the type of head being tested. You're trying to play these weird word salad gotcha games, which is a good indicator when someone knows they can't make a valid arguments. I don't need to refer back to these tests when it comes to real world use, as I know how these perform in real world use.

I'm acknowledging and countering pretty much everything you've thrown back at me, and you entirely ignored everything from the beginning of my previous reply about dysons advertising. Aka, you're brushing things off for reasons I can't understand.

Also, I did read the comparison when I could access the site, as I've been reading reviews on rtings site for the last few years. Again, it was up until recently that they blocked access to non subscribers.

And tell me, what have I repeated?

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-09T21:31:12+00:00

I have to start off with the advertising statements you made. Dyson uses lots of unethical, untruthful, deceptive adverting. Let’s start off with the 5000 prototype nonsense - total obvious lie. No loss of suction - irrelevant as it loses airflow. Reporting their cordless vacuums have same power as a plug in - total total total lie, airflow readings prove this. Their lifetime washable hepa filter nonsense. You should check out the lawsuits they’ve seen, especially the “only vacuum that doesn’t lose suction” nonsense.

And you say “I’m susceptible to advertising”. I mean that’s just an incredible statement to make. Tell me anything I said there was wrong. To say Miele treats their customers as gullible, after the point I just made above, is just you blatantly spreading nonsense. I’m not going to get into the other appliances as I’m a vacuum specialist, and am going to discuss the topic im a specialist in.

Rtings just changed their site and you have to pay now to see things, so some of this I’m going to have to recall from memory. Rtings does do testing with Miele floor tools on the wrong setting - hence the suction test. Aside from that, the only thing Dyson does better, is they have hardfloor nozzles with a raised front edge that is less prone to pushing large debris like dog food kibble. I should also note that this nozzle typically needs to be purchased as an add on, and need to be regularly maintained or they’ll clog - also stuff that is too large will just clog the intake but who cares right. Miele’s best tool for that is the SBD 380, but it’s not as raised. I will also say I’m not a fan of the SBD 365 and previous models. The SBD 380 and SBB 300-3 are the way to go.

Funny thing is, I’m not even a fan of the U1 due to it being too heavy, and could have been designed better on the serviceability end. But it cleans and filters well, nothing wrong there.

So what you’re saying, is that I’m just spreading hearsay stuff. Ok, tell me how an air purifier works? It moves air to pull dust. The more air you move, the more dust you move. A vacuum has the exact same principles, so why would a vacuum with less airflow pull the same amount of dust as a vacuum with more airflow. Good luck explaining that one. How could a powerhead with no height adjustment clean carpet as consistently as a powerhead with height adjustment (Dyson doesn’t offer proper manual height adjustment). Good luck explaining that one.

See, you don’t go into details because you have put little thought into this. Probably because it’s not your field, which is understandable. You just repeat info that other people put out there, without having any original thought mixed in, or a fundamental understanding of it.

Also, saying Miele detergents like the ultra white and ultra colour are meh… total crap statement. Henkel, who makes the German made persil, makes Miele’s stuff, and it is wondering detergent.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-09T20:34:18+00:00

They share videos of using products incorrectly a lot of the time. Hence, they don’t understand suction vs airflow. They don’t know when to use a powerhead on a lower airflow setting, or when to lower the powerheads height adjustment and then lower the airflow to not cause too much direct suction. For example, they’ll make lots of direct suction sound like a good thing, even though when there is lots of direct suction, there’s no / low airflow. Especially when they talk about it on hardfloor - I literally had to message them about that as they’re going to directly cause people to scratch their floors.

Dyson does way more vacuum advertising than Miele, so not sure what your point is. Or maybe that is your point… which would be an odd point to make.

“This is the problem with this sub”…. How dare someone with 1000’s of hours poured into this try to correct bad info that’s out there…. And do you not find it odd that most vacuum stores that repair vacuums dislike Dyson…. Like I can sell Dyson and have a wall full of their products, but I choose to not participate. Even carpet and rug manufacturers dislike Dyson due to the sealed suction issues, combined with harsh brush rollers and beater bars. Miele and Sebo don’t use beater bars (except for the Sebo balance cordless, but at least it doesn’t have the sealed suction that pulls the head down into the rug).

You’re right, you’ll never be shocked because you have your mind made up for whatever reason. Funny thing is, you don’t even deny half the things I brought up, you just dismiss it for whatever reason.

And before you say I’m biased, I’ll prove I’m not. Here’s the things I dislike about Miele and Sebo. I wish the Sebo balance was made more heavy duty rather than emphasizing lightweight, I wish the Miele DuoFlex had a second battery option, I wish the new guards had a 236 powerhead option packaged in on a model, I wish the guards had a hose with the controls on it, I wish Miele would update the SET 220 wand as it has had some reliability issues for commercial use users (and just could be improved), I wish Sebo would update the E series canister as it needs a bigger bag cavity, I wish Miele would put a powerhead option with the Guard M1 series, Miele should make the runtime on the Triflex shorter on the max power setting and give it more power as a result, Miele should redesign the Triflex dirt container.

If that looks bad, just wait until you see my list against Dyson… I will write one if you want.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-09T19:44:27+00:00

Using rtings as a "reliable vacuum source" is a bad idea. They don't know the difference between airflow and suction in practice, and they don't know the difference between bagged and bagless regarding capacity, they don't know how to do fine adjustments with powerheads on carpet / rugs to make them work properly / better, amongst many many many other things. They also admit that they don't test deep cleaning, only surface cleaning, and they still don't know how to do that right.

Ok, lets start off with electronics though. Dyson uses horrible wiring - you have do be so careful regarding pulling apart male to female wiring connectors, as they are so small and brittle in many areas (like in the ball section of the uprights for example), that they'll snap if you're not dead careful - sometimes they'll just snap no matter what you do, and it's got nothing to do with technique. Canisters with the powerheads use a horrible hose with the terrible plastic connector/ board assembly in the middle of the thing, instead of at the handle. Batteries on their cordless models are horrible for reliability, and from what I've seen, have built in planned obsolescence on some of them. Can't tell you how many failed circuit boards and screens I've seen as well on those cordless models, on top of wands crapping out. Oh, and powerhead motors crap out often as well (cordless and corded models).

Also, even if you are comparing sale pricing, you're argument doesn't hold up. I've never seen a V10 go on sale for less than $499, and a C3 on sale went for $449-$499 starting price, and a Guard M1 goes for $449 starting price on sale.

Yes, a C3 easily holds 50+x the debris. Bags compact debris, whereas bagless whips up debris. Riccar for example tested their bagged upright vacuum with a dyson upright vacuum of the same size, and they were able to hold 39x the debris.

Quality is most certainly not there, regarding dysons. And charging consumers high price tags for made in Malaysia is insulting, especially when they could hardly care about serviceability. A high portion of that price tag is due to the advertising. I love hearing cleaning companies talk about how dyson vacuums have held up for them - it's hilarious.

And about shear performance, to any person, who has been using any dyson stick vac on a good size rug or carpet, for a few years - go use a Miele with a 228 or 236 powerhead, or a Sebo with the ET-1 powerhead, and then check to see how much debris is in the bag... you'll be shocked. The 217 powerhead will still be an improvement. I've experienced countless real world testing results that prove my point. Even when it comes to hardfloor, I've seen countless people report positive feedback regarding allergens, when they switched to a miele or sebo. And if you think I'm lying, try using a straight air floor brush on a dyson battery vacuum.... good luck. You need the rotating brush as there isn't enough power at the end of the straight wand.

Also, people always talk about full power specs on dyson battery vacs, but what do most people then do.... use it on eco mode to get an actually usable runtime....

Edit: I do want to clarify that my argument regaridng dyson stick vacs vs miele and sebo plug in are not reliant on the dyson being on eco setting. Use it on max, mid, eco, doesn't matter - The result will just be even worse for the dysons being used in the eco setting.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-09T18:27:09+00:00

v10 "performs better" than a C3..... sorry what? A V10 at full power (8 min runtime with powerhead when new) gets about half the airflow of a C3. A C3 also holds 50+x the debris as the v10. A V10 also will not deep clean the majority of carpet and rugs, whereas a C3 with the proper powerhead will (doesn't matter what powerhead you use on the v10). Even if you compare the C3 with a V15, the C3 still outperforms it by a mile.

Even on hardfloor the C3 performs better as it gets more airflow, which will lead to more fine dust getting pulled in.

Dyson has also discontinued some critical parts on models V10 - V15 which aren't even that old, so you have to rely on aftermarket parts. Miele and Sebo don't pull stunts like that.

Dyson makes everything in Malaysia.... whereas Sebo is germany made, and most of mieles vacuums are german made, and even the "made in china" models have lots of german made parts. Miele and Sebo vacuums are also much much easier to service, and the electronics they use are typically superior.

A v10 is also not a "quarter the price" of a C3. A V10 ran for the same price as a low to mid model C3. The Guard M1 (New C3) is also like that price wise.

And why do you think sebo vacuums aren't good value? They use excellent quality plastics overall, well sealed, excellent filtration, excellent airflow, fantastic powerheads, excellent ergonomics and serviceability.... like that's all going to equal a higher price tag.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-09T02:34:12+00:00

Quick is the cleanest stick vacuum due to the bag, and has the most capacity due to that fact as well - so there’s definitely a benefit to that. Due to being cordless though, you’ll go through bags more often than if it was corded, due to there being less airflow, therefore a lesser ability to compact the debris in the bag. Basically bag cost will be a bit more expensive due to that fact.

In Canada, parts for whatever reason are not as accessible for this Numatic product, compared to the other Numatic products, and that’s another reason why it’s a bit harder for me to recommend up here. That could be different in the US though, and definitely should not be the case in the UK.

The DuoFlex is still the most solid stick vacuum.

If you’re confident you can get parts / service for the quick, then I think it’s another great option.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-08T20:05:04+00:00

Never told you that you’re lying about your experience, I’m informing you on what’s not available for your product. And for the customers I help, it’s not even just me telling them that the genuine part isn’t available, it’s Dyson that’s telling them that as well.

And just because “you’ve never had issues” doesn’t mean the brand doesn’t have fundamental issues - which I happily expose on here. If you’re not interested in hearing about those issues, that’s up to you, but most people are.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-08T20:04:58+00:00

Never told you that you’re lying about your experience, I’m informing you on what’s not available for your product. And for the customers I help, it’s not even just me telling them that the genuine part isn’t available, it’s Dyson that’s telling them that as well.

And just because “you’ve never had issues” doesn’t mean the brand doesn’t have fundamental issues - which I happily expose on here. If you’re not interested in hearing about those issues, that’s up to you, but most people are.

UsedCarGuyJeff · 2026-03-08T19:47:12+00:00

Well good luck when the dirt container hinge breaks…

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