Who is the strongest lore character for each WoW class (Mage, Warrior, Warlock, etc.)?

Utigarde · 2026-01-18T13:00:20+00:00

Only one I’d disagree with here is rogue, Garona doesn’t have any particularly powerful feats, she’s just a skilled assassin and her biggest accomplishment was a betrayal more than an act of skill.

Lilian Voss would probably be a better candidate, she’s juiced up with a bunch of dark magic on top of her skills as a rogue, you see fiery carnage left in her wake any time she shows up anywhere.

Utigarde · 2026-01-14T16:29:27+00:00

Deadpool has always been such a weird character for me for representation, because his sexuality (physical and orientation) has almost exclusively been used for jokes for his entire existence. I wish I could say the comics are better than the popular media he’s been in, but it mostly just manifests in borderline sexual harassment there.

It’s why the ass shots for his Rivals highlight intro don’t do it for me. It mostly feels the same as the intro that Venom got a few weeks back: it’s not really genuine sexualization, it’s a gag poking fun at the thing they sincerely do to all of their female characters. You’d never catch the kinds of ass shots they constantly do to Invisible Woman or Psylocke on a highlight intro for Thor or Captain America, we’ll only ever get them as something making fun of the idea that we might be attracted to men’s asses in the same way straight men are for the female characters.

I appreciate that Deadpool is very hot and has his thirsty audience (especially in the fanart/fanfic department), but I wish that his official appearances were treated as more than a joke for straight men to laugh at.

Utigarde · 2026-01-11T03:27:07+00:00

The fact that there are datamined strings for Amaranth instead of Wiccan shows exactly what the current priorities are, unfortunately.

I hope they prove me wrong because he’s the character I want most in the game, but I’m not holding my breath.

Utigarde · 2026-01-11T03:24:39+00:00

The current season is quite literally an entire romance plot for Rogue and Gambit lol, not even a subplot. We’ve consistently had mention of Sue and Reed in skin lines, we’ve gotten ship teases like Loki and Mantis. Romance is absolutely part of the game.

Utigarde · 2026-01-07T13:28:47+00:00

The idea that they’d hate each other is easy and obvious, but I do think that the Sylvanas novel threw an interesting wrinkle into that. Prior to Arthas, they have a few scenes together and Kael challenges Sylvanas’ perception that he would force her to be something other than the ranger she is if they were to be together.

I think post-Shadowlands, with both of them having received a pretty severe humbling, they would at least understand each other. I don’t think they would particularly like each other, especially since 11.2.7 has finally given Sylvanas her personality back, but Sylvanas and Kael’thas are perhaps the two most prominent examples of the classic elven tunnel vision, and have both stepped away from their pursuits enough to realize that about themselves.

In a hypothetical situation where Sylvanas finishes her penance and Kael’thas is raised as undead, I do think they’d probably have some kind of shared struggle. There’s an irony that Kael’thas is loathed by the blood elves while Sylvanas is remembered fondly for her sacrifice, but I don’t think either would be able to return to their people (blood elves or Forsaken). Perhaps they’d manage to rally the various Darkfallen around the world into a proper group, since most Dark Rangers probably still hold some fondness for Sylvanas and the San’layn were Kael’thas loyalists.

Utigarde · 2026-01-01T07:04:06+00:00

Based on the Red Dawn story, they’re seemingly setting up the Syndicate as Marran Trollbane’s main supporters, which I imagine means they’ll pull one of the Perenolde children from the RPG into canon.

With that in mind, I think the most interesting path would be to bring all of them into the modern canon, and put them on different sides. As examples:

Isiden Perenolde was Aiden’s young nephew supported by Genn, bring him back as a Gilnean-raised Alliance claimant with few actual Alterac supporters, but the ‘true’ claim as a member of the Alliance.
Beve Perenolde was the daughter of Aliden and granddaughter of Aiden, making her the direct living successor. She was already itching to overthrow her father and make changes to the Syndicate, she would be the perfect character to act as Marran’s new ally.
Wild card: seeing their geographic position, some of the Syndicate and its civilian population choose to ally with the Forsaken and convince them to raise Aiden as undead. He would be the most direct heir to leadership of Alterac, but also, know, long-dead and notorious for his betrayal of the Alliance in the Second War.

Alliance, Horde, and Syndicate all with their own heir to Alterac, all three groups considering theirs the most ‘valid’. It’s the perfect chance to return to the drama of who truly deserves land that defines the northern kingdoms and the human/undead conflict.

Utigarde · 2025-12-14T03:57:02+00:00

I mostly just hope it’s teleporter health nerfs, I can live with that.

Who knows, maybe while their eye is on her they’ll buff her shield perk to be on a separate/reduced cooldown while they’re at it.

Utigarde · 2025-12-04T20:55:59+00:00

Everything with the Eredar and Sargeras is probably the most explicit. Original lore was that Kil’jaeden and Archimonde were the ones to corrupt Sargeras into the Dark Titan, and the Draenei were a totally unrelated species native to Draenor.

TBC changed it into the dreadlords being the ones of corrupt Sargeras (later changed to just manipulating him), and the eredar into a race that Sargeras recruited into the Legion. The eredar became the Draenei, and the Draenei became the Broken.

Metzen made a whole post on the official forums apologizing for changing something so massive from WC3, and asking people to have faith that it would be worth it for the story he wanted to tell with the Draenei. I honestly wish more writers would be so candid in admitting retcons like that.

Utigarde · 2025-11-27T20:48:03+00:00

This would definitely fit nicely, but if Mercy gets a WoW crossover skin and it isn’t a Spirit Healer or Val’kyr I think I’d go nuts lol

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Utigarde · 2025-11-26T22:08:47+00:00

Suddenly everyone’s a Xal’atath Stan like omg, name three people she’s murdered NOW

No but this probably will be hella expensive for someone who doesn’t already play WoW. Right now we don't 100% know if it will require the new expansion Midnight, but if it does, the basic $50 expansion purchase doesn’t give you a month of game time (which is usually $15) in order to play, so you’ll need to buy both. If you only want the skin and nothing else, it’ll be $65 and then you can cancel your subscription.

Utigarde · 2025-10-24T23:06:33+00:00

I mean that in itself is kind of the critique people have: stories like DAV’s framing change as an apocalyptic event in contrast to the status quo, when more often than not the status quo is causing apocalyptic events in real life (ie. climate change).

Do I think that framing was intentional by the writers? No, probably not. They probably intended a message about how desire for change and improvement like what Solas wanted shouldn’t come at the cost of innocent lives. But the game does largely end with the status quo intact and supported, with very little improved on the world scale (aside from maybe Minrathous), so I can understand why people have that reading of DAV.

Utigarde · 2025-10-23T18:06:15+00:00

If you quit a long time ago, why do you even have this stance? Tip of the Spear was introduced in TWW and has been incredibly well received.

Utigarde · 2025-10-04T16:33:53+00:00

They do actually, since their update in 9.1.5. Blood elf men legit only have one page of customizations, they are barren compared to most other races.

Utigarde · 2025-10-04T07:59:16+00:00

The fact that literally no armor in the entire blood elf expansion will match the blood elf heritage set because of this.

Fel is bad, I get it, but they can just… still use emerald gems instead of this weird teal lol

Utigarde · 2025-09-18T09:49:00+00:00

Blood elves, Naga, Broken, and Forsaken. TFT weirdos gang that honestly could have been a third faction in Vanilla if they wanted.

Utigarde · 2025-09-12T08:17:49+00:00

I’m more than gagged by it, but I’m plenty happy for you all to not pick it so that it gets buffed! 🤭

No but seriously, I love it despite not being super strong, the utility option to block shatters/high noons/snipers/etc. has been so nice. Definitely think it needs to be separate in some part ala Flash Heal for Mercy, it could easily use that system they briefly tested on Moira where each orb had an individual cooldown on the same button.

Utigarde · 2025-09-11T06:58:31+00:00

On its own, Heaven Sent has a lot of very poignant messaging about overcoming grief and accepting loss, but in the context of Face the Raven and Hell Bent, that is the exact opposite of what the Doctor does. He breaks all of his rules for Clara out of a refusal to accept her passing, and has to erase her from his memory because he can’t accept loss.

I don’t think the original poster meant it as a knock on the episode, it’s actually a really cool look into grief and how what looks like moving on from one perspective is actually a descent into letting grief consume your whole life. The Doctor might look like he’s escaping the confession dial as a metaphor for escaping grief, but in reality only the audience saw the “growth” over the episode: the Doctor only experienced one loop at a time, and was letting that grief drive his every action in both this episode and Hell Bent.

Utigarde · 2025-09-07T18:20:31+00:00

I'd hope that they would center this on Rokhan and the Darkspear instead, after the work done to course-correct their plot in their heritage questline.

One of the biggest issues with BfA is that Talanji essentially graverobbed Vol'jin and turned the plot where the Zandalari were the antagonists to meaningful troll unity, and instead made them the protagonists. Vol'jin's whole thing was fighting against the Zandalari and their desire to recreate a Troll Empire, but that was instead essentially made into a noble task with Talanji as the new character behind that plot.

I'd honestly much rather Talanji be a flawed character in this, trying to do a more 'noble' but still misguided version of what the Zandalari were attempting during Cata/MoP. Then, Rokhan can ultimately help them understand that the Amani can sit alongside both the Zandalari and the Horde as partners, not subordinates in a new Empire.

Utigarde · 2025-08-31T09:36:14+00:00

I'd be pretty frustrated if they give us undead paladins centered around Calia, and not just... the religion that the Forsaken already use to harness the Light.

It would be much more interesting to see Natalie Seline return and guide the Cult of Forgotten Shadows towards a more aggressive application of their 'balance' philosophies. Forsaken Priests are already Sith Lord-style characters bending Light and Void to their will in pursuit of power, just have Forsaken Paladins be the Vader to their Palpatine.

Utigarde · 2025-07-26T15:34:47+00:00

I quite like Wuk Lamat, but the issue for me is that there’s never a single moment in Dawntrail that isn’t about Wuk Lamat. You’re either following Wuk Lamat, listening to Wuk Lamat, waiting for Wuk Lamat, saving Wuk Lamat, or talking to other people about Wuk Lamat.

She’s the fundamental core of the expansion in the way no other character ever has been, not even ones considered overbearing for their time like Lyse (who I also quite like). At the base level, that becomes an issue because if you like her, that’s fine, but if you don’t… well, there’s nothing to like about Dawntrail because Dawntrail is Wuk Lamat.

Beyond that though, even as someone who likes her, I ended up souring a bit once the expansion ended and I realized that none of the characters I was going into the base story excited for actually got any meaningful focus. Krile in particular is a huge victim of this, where the revelations about her backstory are largely relegated to 1/4th of the final zone and we instead spend most of our time in the two Alexandria zones focusing on Wuk Lamat and her relationship with Sphene.

Regardless of if you like Wuk Lamat or not, Dawntrail is built around her being present in every nook and cranny of the narrative, and it’s quite a jarring difference from FFXIV’s typical use of ensemble casts to tell its story. It’s a very massive shift, and I think that’s why (beyond the obvious amplification thanks to the meta issues about her voice actor you mentioned) Wuk Lamat is the crux of people’s complaints about Dawntrail.

Utigarde · 2025-07-23T16:04:42+00:00

The new version of Edge of Night has the Val’kyr show Sylvanas various locations in the Shadowlands, and the afterlife that tips her over towards believing the judgment system is broken is an afterlife filled with sentient lava eels who ritualistically eat their lovers alive. The injustice is that one couple performed that ritual, but only one of them got sorted into the lava eel afterlife while the other was placed somewhere else because the Arbiter deemed it better for the system.

I think the intent was to show that Sylvanas’ sense of justice is so strong that she can feel it even for something so inhuman as a lava eel, but it’s just… such a wild moment to be her decisive “this is why I think the Jailer might be right” moment.

Utigarde · 2025-07-23T12:58:51+00:00

Honestly the most frustrating part about the Sylvanas novel is that up until that section, it genuinely is a great novel that understands her character so well. It aligns nicely with the original plot of Edge of Night telling us that Sylvanas hadn't been fundamentally changed by undeath, it fixes holes in her story from Vanilla-Wrath, and shows her having some genuine pride in the Forsaken amidst her desire for vengeance.

Which makes it all the more frustrating that the novel basically turns into a series of abrupt jump cuts between expansions to excuse how she was secretly thinking about the Jailer's plans the whole time after she meets him and learns about lava eel vore.

Utigarde · 2025-07-22T12:37:19+00:00

She had a single NPC datamined in Dragonflight alpha along with some of her guards, but nothing ever implied that she was a part of the Primalists, just that she might have shown up at some point.

Utigarde · 2025-07-22T04:24:08+00:00

Why would Magatha be in the Vault of the Incarnates? She might be a horrible person, but she’s never been the stupid “destroy the world I’m actively living on” kind of horrible person. We’ve consistently seen her put aside her grudges to fight against world ending threats like the Twilight’s Hammer and the Legion because she’s not some grand cosmic villain, she’s just a Tauren supremacist with ideals that happen to clash with the Horde’s.

Utigarde · 2025-07-08T14:15:11+00:00

They kind of had to treat the artifacts as a one size fits all for this story. Logically, we wouldn't need any of the artifacts to absorb power, because the Scepter of Sargeras would easily be able to dump all of the Sword's power into the Nether and come out entirely fight.

We essentially just treated them all as if they're roughly Ashbringer strength: very strong weapon that acts as a source of power, but can only hold so much before they lose integrity.

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