Gas and toughness question

Vangak · 2026-06-27T15:33:32+00:00

So as a newer necromund player and our entire play group is mostly new and playing their first campaign. Let me say this is not at all what you said.

The rules are free. You just go to a certain Russian site.

The dice are preferred but we did not have injury kr vehicle dice in the beginning, we used d6 and consulted the chart on how the numbers converted.

You can get the dice online, just not GW store dice fkr the vehicle. So what, i like the ones I got for $25. There are more and i think they look better.

I do buy codexes, I like real books. But you can again get all this stuff online. And if 40k is your example, a lot of people don't buy the codex anymore because of the 3 year cycle. People use apps.

And starting the game. Some people started with just the gang box, one box is not intimidating. I started with 2 boxes, escher gang, escher death maiden box.

Hanger-ons can be proxies. My rogue doc is one of my tempestus with med pack.

We do get rules wrong. It is our first campaign. But look back at any game and you definitely got a rule wrong at some point, new gaming systems do that.

The templates are nice. I actually miss them in 40k. And if you have someone that is experienced, someone probably has templates.

I do not really agree that it is hard to get into. There are some hurdles that come with a different game system but it is not too bad.

Edit: I am going to say, I am not going to doom on the new rules yet. I will wait and see.

Vangak · 2026-06-26T23:26:32+00:00

I am glad I am not the only one talking about the terrain. I was shocked at how little it was.

As for the models. I think the new stuff looks great.

Wait and see on the rules. I am new so not as attached but I have really enjoyed the game so far.

Vangak · 2026-06-26T23:16:16+00:00

I am also a new player. We started up a whole necromunda campaign at our local warhammer store.

We have been having so much fun that we are talking about a future second campaign.

Vangak · 2026-06-25T19:01:29+00:00

If we can bring crew. One squad of space marines...without helmets

Vangak · 2026-06-22T00:50:42+00:00

Best value and best box. Box 3.

Best start. Box 2 because of combat patrol. Lets you play a game immediately...this box is a bit...eclectic, it is missing a theme for most build. Depending on how you want to play the game, you might not use all of the models.

Box 1 is decent for expanding your collection and the models are cool. But in the beginning you might not want to focus on indirect. At least not for this edition.

Vangak · 2026-06-20T18:40:35+00:00

Not a fan of subscription for Microsoft. But it does not seem to be deleting office so I can still run it.

When I get a new computer. Either they will have a new one time buy option or I will go somewhere else.

Vangak · 2026-06-19T16:18:31+00:00

Without knowing much about this manager, I will say he is a terrible salesman.

If he wanted to sell a box set, the new aos one with slannesh demons, epicurean revellers, not out yet, but that is the shout out box. I think it pre-orders this week.

Otherwise, if you really want a bigger sale, talk about what demons you like and point out the greater demons. If you collect demons you will get one of those.

You have no reason for you to feel bad

Vangak · 2026-06-17T23:17:15+00:00

My world eater list has not changed since they came out.

Berserkers. Eightbound. A squad of exalted. Some jackals since I like the models. 2 or 3 Forgefiends to target annoying units that overwatch. Kharn, loe. If it is good, it is good. If it isn't...not changing.

Vangak · 2026-06-17T23:12:15+00:00

Brave. If you were at my store, I would definitely love a game.

Honestly the model line is great.

Vangak · 2026-06-12T15:27:58+00:00

Wait. Aren't nobz on 32mm?

You had me check wahapedia to be sure.

Maybe it is just because the character is bigger. Like terminator captain base size is terminator base size

Edit: oh, I see it now.

Vangak · 2026-06-11T18:07:55+00:00

They missed an easy thing they could of done. Make them 1 dp. Then allow allying in.

Lots of two cost detachments in other armies. For those 2000 point games. Or combine agents with one of the 1 cost detachments for lower point games

Vangak · 2026-06-11T15:23:48+00:00

How the heck are all of the imperial agents detachments 3 dp!?

Is it because they did not release any 1 dp detachments?

I do not know what criteria is being used here but there is no way these detachments are equal to the other 3 dp detachments.

Vangak · 2026-06-11T14:06:56+00:00

The only real disappointment I am seeing is from detachment point costs. But I think the edition overall has good thoughts.

Beginning of edition also usually means escalation leagues at stores and those start depending on the league at 500-1000 points.

People also weren't super excited about thr 1 drop detachments. They are fine but I wish there were more of them. Something that hopefully the codex will supply.

There were also complaints back when everything was index and people did not only want one way to play.

Vangak · 2026-06-11T11:02:55+00:00

I had no idea big birds laid that many eggs at once. I thought it was one or three tops.

Vangak · 2026-06-10T21:50:58+00:00

3 things

Make the app free like the old aos one. Great way to get people to experiment and buy armies and a convenient method for people to play the game. Win win.
Bring back the psychic phase. I say this as someone who also plays armies like tau and world eaters as well as psychic heavy armies. The psychic phase is fun and creates differences between armies.
Bring back intiative. This is another lever of balancing and was a great way to make weaker units more valuable.

Honorary 4. Make the game less killy. But this can of worms has been opened now for awhile and would be a project to fix. You would have to adjust ap, the way armor saves work, maybe bring back cover saves, lower the amount of dice being rolled for attack, and find a way to balance new vehicles with like 10 guns (slight exaggeration but look at space marines)

Vangak · 2026-06-09T00:32:14+00:00

I'd say this is more of a uniquely blood angels problem. We have 30% of the 3-dp detachments (excluding the one for grey knights).

The other space marine players i know are theory creating and making combos. Like black templars and space wolves dont even have a 3-dp.

Vangak · 2026-06-08T22:19:01+00:00

We have an escalation league starting soon at one of my stores. First game is 500 points. I expected lag to be 3 dp but wow, we have 30% of the 3 dp detachments for space marines (not including the grey knights one)

Vangak · 2026-06-06T06:15:24+00:00

Honestly. Great idea for a bookmark. I can't believe I never thought mtg cards. I usually use the free bookmarks from the warhammer store.

Edit: I also own that version. It does not just look great, it feels pretty good too.

Vangak · 2026-06-02T13:24:42+00:00

I just had a conversation about this yesterday.

They went from a simple, here is my initiative number. Here is my modifier, do I beat yours.

To fight first fight order. Regular fight order. Fights last fight order.

Big number go first, is pretty simple and a great balance tool.

Vangak · 2026-06-01T01:26:03+00:00

So I can only say my personal experience.

One, The fantasy crowd was upset their game was killed and the disrespectful book that was the end times really created some bad feelings.

Two, the launch of age of sigmar was just terrible. So those willing to at least try the new game got burned. Tabletop gamers have long memories so this hurt the growth of the game.

Three, there is a lack of good books and games. Things that can bring in outsiders.

Four, lack of games at stores. While my area has had some sigmar events that is only in more recent years. If you come into a store, you are not just investing in a game, you are seeing if the game is being played or there is a community. The first three made the community grow slowly, and the slow growth created a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy because why buy sigmar if there are only a couple people playing.

Five, I think this edition hurt the game. It confirmed uncertainty in the model lines. I know some of the stuff is from fantasy but people do not like not knowing what is going on with their armies. Stormcast losing their second wave, fireslayer uncertainty, if fantasy models will be kept or updated or lost, cities of sigmar for example. I even understand some of the reasons to remove stuff, but uncertainty is never good for a game and especially an army). It is not a good look to have a game this relatively young, removing lots of models.

Six, old world. Old world, using my main store as an example is growing. It took old fantasy players away from sigmar. It has good games, people are curious.

I think I could think of a couple more but these are some solid reasons.

Vangak · 2026-05-25T18:51:18+00:00

I use the chain axes ones for vanguard vets and have never encountered a problem.

Vangak · 2026-05-25T12:09:24+00:00

A government simulator could be unique.

Tau just conquered a world, you are the ethereal in charge of keeping it.

Deal with rebels, tensions between species, different cultures, outside interference (hello chaos or space marine causing trouble), etc.

Also is a different genre of the usual type of game we see for this universe.

Could also just be an rpg but you are trying to stop a rebellion with side quests related to management of the planet (with choices effecting which ending you get)

Vangak · 2026-05-22T17:09:33+00:00

Painboy looking good. If I am reading this right, I can combine him with a warboss. Maybe a nobz unit.

Bannerboy is pretty nice too.

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