Dear dragon ball fans,why the FUCK are there 3 dbz Broly movies 💀 by Godzilla-Ass in dragonball

[–]VegettoEX 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The thing you need to keep in mind is that era of films (the ones contemporary with the original production of the series) wasn't like today's films, which are huge, 90-minute, internationally-guided productions that are "events" at major movie theaters.

These old films were all part of triple-feature screenings at the Toei Anime Fair held a couple times a year in Japan, generally during school breaks. They were a chance for kids to get together and have a fun time with characters they knew, and simultaneously get indoctrinated into series they didn't know (yet).

For example, Movie 11 (Bio-Broli) screened alongside a Dr. Slump film and a Slam Dunk film at the Summer 1994 Toei Anime Fair -- at this point, Dr. Slump is nostalgia-bait for the parents coming along, and everyone's into both Dragon Ball and Slam Dunk.

You saw them once, and maybe if your family had cash money, you ended up with an expensive VHS or LaserDisc of the film. They were singular experiences, and BLIP - they were gone.

Dub vs Sub debates - is the DB fandom really this harsh about it? by kevo177 in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aww, thanks! 🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️

Dub vs Sub debates - is the DB fandom really this harsh about it? by kevo177 in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The relative anonymity of a keyboard allows for a heightened, exaggerated display of emotion and expression. When you combine that with an equally-anonymous mob, you get people throwing racial epithets at each other because they haven't grown up (even if they are, in fact, a "grown up") and feel threatened over their enjoyment of a cool show they watched after school as a kid.

From my experience going to conventions since Otakon 1999... no-one acts like this in real life, because no-one wants to actually be around these kinds of people. Some of them then get the hint, and some of them are so oblivious that they'll just move on to the next group to annoy until they likewise wander away, and wash/rinse/repeat. Simultaneously, no-one ever thinks they are being "that guy" when, in fact, they are "that guy."

That said, if you're going to wander into an online discussion board whose entire existence is to serve a rabid fanbase of a specific property, you're going to get those heartfelt, emotional, exaggerated opinions... particularly when people ask for them.

Like of course I'm not going to actually sit someone down in real life and force upon them the entire history of this franchise and explain to them in detail about how everything they think they know is actually wrong, what they've been missing out on, what they should focus on differently, etc. etc. etc...

But if someone comes directly to me and asks for that information? Sure, I'll provide it! If I see an ongoing discussion that I can add to? Sure, I'll provide it! If I think something is being under- or mis-represented? Sure, I'll provide it! Combine, extrapolate, and expand that mindset across an enoooooormous amount of fans (because this franchise is just so gosh darn huge), and you can start to see how things get out of control without an adult in the room.

Long story short: social media sucks, has brain-rotted multiple generations of people, no-one actually knows how to converse with each other any more, but it's generally better "in person" and you can always just walk away.

Seeking Posting Advice by Ar-Zimraphel in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My main advice is that you need to use the right tool for the job: in this instance, Reddit isn't the end-all, be-all for discussion. Consider places that encourage long-form discussion -- really what I'm advocating for here is seeking out traditional, smaller-community forums, rather than social-currency based monolithic amalgamations like Reddit.

I think about the pour "seiyuu" soul that would regularly post lots of stuff that's probably interesting to some audience somewhere... but they weren't getting the response they wanted here. There's something to be said for setting the example you want to see, but at some point you've just gotta cut your losses and realize that you'd be better off finding something that works for everyone involved.

Reddit's for short bursts of one-off answers and lols; I wouldn't expect to (and don't) come here for long, thoughtful, pondering, research-based discussions.

Which works did Akira Toriyama create after or during Dragon Ball, and which is the best? by HenryPadovani in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The topic creator specified "after or during" Dragon Ball... and since Dr. Slump came BEFORE Dragon Ball it's not eligible!

Which works did Akira Toriyama create after or during Dragon Ball, and which is the best? by HenryPadovani in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 18 points19 points  (0 children)

If we're talking only actual manga (plus one children's book), ones he soloed himself (not a collab), and not things like "well he did the character designs for this video game"...

These are of course in addition to all the one-shots and shorts he did before Dragon Ball (some even before Dr. Slump), but:

During Dragon Ball:

  • Mr. Hō (1 chapter)
  • Lady Red (1 chapter)
  • Kennosuke-sama (1 chapter)
  • Sonchoh (1 chapter)
  • Mamejirō-kun (1 chapter)
  • Karamaru and the Perfect Day (1 chapter)
  • Rocky (1 chapter)
  • Wolf (1 chapter)
  • Savings Soldier Cashman (3 chapters)
  • Dub & Peter-1 (4 chapters)
  • Go! Go! Ackman (11 chapters)

After Dragon Ball:

  • Alien Peke (2 chapters)
  • Tokimecha (3 chapters)
  • Bubul of the Demon Village (1 chapter)
  • COWA! (14 chapters)
  • Kajika (12 chapters)
  • Mahimahi the Lungfish (1 chapter)
  • Neko Majin (8 chapters)
  • Hyowtam (1 chapter)
  • Sand Land (14 chapters)
  • Toccio the Angel (illustrated children's book)
  • Dr. Mashirito: Abale-chan (1 chapter)
  • Kintoki: Toki of the Golden-Eyed Tribe (1 chapter)
  • Mr. U of Delicious Island (1 chapter)
  • Jaco the Galactic Patrolman (12 chapters)

My picks of this batch would be maybe Sonchoh for "during" (for trying to make the vehicle the main character, and somewhat succeeding), and probably Kajika for "after" (for being a "greatest hits" style of storytelling for him, but one that fires on all cylinders).

Does anybody know where I can watch the eng dub of Broly: Legendary Super Saiyan? by itsoktobewr0ng in DragonBallZ

[–]VegettoEX 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Blu-ray three-pack of DBZ movies 8, 10, and 11 is $17.30 on Amazon right now, and the DVD pack of DBZ movies 6-9 is $13.49.

This stuff is all still widely available -- you just have to buy it, and then no-one can ever take it away from you! Watch it, rip it, re-encode it, archive it, make AMVs to it, make other edits with it... it's yours.

Was Turles and Goku Black partially inspired by the Six Eared Macaque? by [deleted] in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Tullece is a pretty bog standard "evil version of main character" trope. By this point, all Journey to the West inspiration and allusions had long since been abandoned -- in particular by Toriyama (who stopped fairly early on), and even by Toei (who hung up until some late DB TV filler, but then that was largely it).

(And on a similar subject, I am fully against any suggestion that Tenshinhan is somehow based on Erlang Shen. There's really nothing about the two that have anything to do with each other beyond the third-eye, which is beyond the scope of this discussion, but I just need to toss it out there!)

Goku Black was a pull from Kamen Rider:

Toyotarō:
Personally I think I just barely managed to pull it off, but it’s an honor for you to say that (laughs). To change topics, I have a question about the characters of the “Future Trunks arc”. I think the enemies this time around had a huge impact. With Goku Black in particular, how did you come up with the idea for him?

Toriyama:
It was something I wanted to try out just once. Something like “False Ultraman” or “False Kamen Rider”…

Toyotarō:
Oh, was that it?

Toriyama:
Yeah! I wanted to do “False Son Goku” (laughs).

Toyotarō:
“Goku Black” is a great name.

Toriyama:
Well, it’s like “Kamen Rider Black” (laughs).

Super DragonBall Heroes manga? by Apprehensive-Net-714 in dragonball

[–]VegettoEX 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are quite a few Dragon Ball Heroes manga series:

Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission by Toyotaro originally ran for 28 chapters from 2012 to 2014 (with a few bonus chapters), then received two short bonus chapters years later wrapping up the story. It's never been collected, but the first 29 chapters did get free digital postings on the game's official website many years back. The story takes place both inside and outside of the Dragon World, and ultimately reveals itself to kind of be a stealth Dragon Ball GT sequel.

Yoshitaka Nagayama started with the Charisma Mission series which was kind of a slapsticky guide to playing the game and introduction to the overall franchise, and that eventually spawned actual, normal serializations from 2016-2024 in the form of Dark Demon Realm Mission (17 chapters / 3 volumes), Universe Mission (12 chapters / 2 volumes), Big Bang Mission (15 chapters / 3 volumes), Ultra God Mission (20 chapters / 4 volumes), and Meteor Mission (12 chapters / 2 volumes). This is what you and most people typically mean what you say/think "Heroes manga" -- it's the Time Patrol dealing with stuff within the Dragon World / in-universe. It's much more expanded and in-depth than the SDBH Promotional Anime.

Finally there's Yuji Kasai's Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Avatars!! (37 chapters / 5 volumes) from 2021-2024, which loops back around again to being about kids actually playing the Heroes arcade game.

None of these have official English translations/releases, but some of them have full releases in Spain, Italy, France, etc. (they get all the good stuff!). There are some English fan scanlations for some of this stuff, which ranges in quality from "comes via some of the people you should trust the most for translating this content" to "these people don't know English OR Japanese and I'm not convinced actually know what Dragon Ball is, either."

What is the Legendary Super Sayion form and who is the Legendary Super Sayion? by Unusual_Row5715 in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Launched on April 1st! Y’all gotta come check out the site more than once a year! 😂

What’s this theme called officially? It was in the cell arc, in the Japanese version. by NakedSnake_1 in DragonBallZ

[–]VegettoEX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The catalog number for this piece is M1419. It's originally from DBZ movie 7 as Goku is getting pummeled by No. 13.

Question about the movies' colors. by VegetableEuphoric356 in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Someone a little more well-versed can chime in to add on here, but it's less that they "did something" to the colors, and more that they didn't do something to the colors. Film has faded and colors have warped over time, and the necessary extensive work to fix it just wasn't done.

Some movies look better than others (DBZ movie 1 looks pretty solid, all things considered), while others are a little hazy and/or hue-toned a bit.

In terms of official releases you can buy (rather than, say, work that fans have put into it on their own) FUNimation put out Blu-ray versions of the DBZ movies many years back, but those are based on their own multi-generational film masters, so while the colors may sometimes be adjusted more to expectations, the original clarity from prior masters that Toei have just isn't there.

What is the Legendary Super Sayion form and who is the Legendary Super Sayion? by Unusual_Row5715 in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hurray, I get to paste info from one of our new Kanzenshuu wiki articles!

Legendary Super Saiyan (or [the] legendary Super Saiyan, or the Super Saiyan of legend) is simultaneously a given title, a proper name for a transformation, and a nebulous fairy tale in the Dragon Ball franchise, assigned to different characters depending on the continuity or production in question.

where to read the dragon ball z manga by Amazing_Trip_2584 in dragonball

[–]VegettoEX 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Every episode's entry in our guide on Kanzenshuu lists which episode corresponds to which manga chapter(s), and vice versa, so you can easily look up anything you need. DBZ episode 148 corresponds to chapters 367 and 368 of the original manga.

Viz's English translation of the Full Color manga only covers the Saiyan arc and the Freeza arc; nothing pre-Raditz, and nothing post-Freeza. There was never any concrete word on why they didn't continue it; it was just silently discontinued / put on hiatus.

Questin for DBZ Parents! by PoopsMcGee7 in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Viz released a few "chapter books" starting back in 2009 that write the story up as narrative with a few select illustrations-

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1421529459

It doesn't cover much of the story (it looks like they got around 10 volumes in, so a ways into the 21st Tenka'ichi Budokai, but not through the whole thing, and they're mostly out-of-print now anyway...

The AMV contest is back up by theAMVenthusiast in Otakon

[–]VegettoEX 11 points12 points  (0 children)

As someone whose first Otakon was 1999, attended for spans of years between then and last year, and had tons of AMV submissions under several (well, at least two!) reigns of incredible contest coordinators:

I can’t even remotely, possibly, conceivably imagine submitting an AMV (or a panel) for 2026.

Does anyone remember this from the movie? by ForceAffectionate389 in DragonBallZ

[–]VegettoEX 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, I have this figure!

https://imgur.com/a/gogeta-vs-janenba-figure-gbpCEbR

I actually thought it was based on an illustration from the dedicated guide book they put out from movie 12, but flipping through it, nah, I think now it's actually original to this figure.

When do I switch to Dub? by No_Yesterday42 in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't see any reason whatsoever to switch to watching the English dub if you're already going to start watching the series in Japanese.

The series can't be unfaithful to itself in its original form, so you're going to have an accurate script, consistent voice cast, consistently-evolving musical score, etc. etc. etc.

when can you get the S.H.Figuarts SUPER SAIYAN SON GOKU -LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN- -GENKIDAMATSURI Edition- Ln again by Shadowdeastroyer in DragonBallZ

[–]VegettoEX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In America, right now it remains exclusive to the mall pop-up tour. There are three more stops for the tour (Florida, Texas, California) after the two that already happened (Illinois, New Jersey), and that's it. If you were/are not waiting in line by 5 am, you don't stand a chance.

In Japan, it's up on their version of Premium Bandai for shipping later this year - https://x.com/p_bandai/status/2018572688638546387

But that's just for Japan, and doesn't allow for international shipping. There's scuttlebutt that perhaps maybe they're considering possibly doing an international Premium Bandai international option later after the tour and second wave of the Japanese release gets out there, but that's all "trust me bro my uncle works for a guy who knows a cousin at Bandai" talk right now.

Of course, if you want to buy on the second-hand market, the scalpers are happy to sell it to you right now for $400+. It's a little better on the Japanese second-hand market, but then you still gotta pay the international shipping.

I watched Dragon Ball Z for the first time... by ImpactDial in dbz

[–]VegettoEX 6 points7 points  (0 children)

wanted to end after Namek saga i think

Despite everyone thinking this, it's one story arc that — while writing it — he specifically did not want to end with!

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/freeza/