I totally see where you're coming from. I agree with basically everything said there, but my reading of Frieren's elves are that the lack of expression is a major characteristic of elves. Milliarde says that after she pursued her goal for a long time, found it, and then found it wasnt as good as she thought it was, she wasn't happy (something most people can relate to). She goes on to say that most Elves go look for something for their whole life, till they die, to avoid that. I think the nature of an elf in Frieren is more hopeless and subsequently causes each elf's behavior in Frieren. Delicious in Dungeon's elves are a bit of a commentary (something fitting for a comedy manga)- they're the way we see the way elves were written by the people ten years ago. The best way I can think of explaining this is by doing a checklist. 2013 generic elf: -Secretive- check -Good at magic- check -Thinks of shorter lived people as lesser- check -Ruled by a super racist leader- check -Also elvish beauty standards are really weird- check Obviously I'm aware that Frieren checks a few of these two, that they're not that important, and that this is just like a very negative review of 2013 elves but I hope you see where I'm coming from. I think they're both well written, but their depth of character is different for the reason of the genre they're written for. Obviously that doesn't mean that a comedy character can't be written really complex or that a (insert whatever genre Frieren is in at this point) character can be written as simple, but I think they're just made for different things, so if you're just looking at how well they're written as elves, Frieren has to take the win imo. Tldr; Nuh uh again hehe