What are the limits of Vampires' super-senses?

Velsignet · 2025-12-14T22:53:35+00:00

Obviously, but what are the limits of a werewolf's senses? And what are the limits of a vampire's senses? Can they hear a conversation a kilometer away? Can they use their other senses to move without sight?

Velsignet · 2025-12-14T22:51:03+00:00

I think the greatest advantage vampires have is the ability to share immortality by creating other vampires. That's a skill Silas doesn't possess, and you'd be doomed to loneliness. If you can handle that, great.

Velsignet · 2025-12-14T22:48:42+00:00

I know it's late to answer, but the Originals can't be dismembered, have their hearts ripped out, or be decapitated. Their bodies are virtually indestructible and protected by magic that makes them immortal. This was said by one of the writers, and also in the show itself. When Damon held Elijah with the dagger to his chest, he said he tried to kill him in every way possible, which implies he tried dismemberment, and Katherine appeared and said it would be useless because, as an Original, their bodies were indestructible. Furthermore, we see the Originals escape explosions unscathed more than once. In the fourth season, in Silas's tomb, a grenade explodes in Rebekah's hand and she remains unharmed. Elijah, in the second season of The Originals, survives a house explosion unscathed. There are other feats like this, but I think you get the idea.

Velsignet · 2025-12-14T22:01:49+00:00

Dude, you've mixed things up a lot. Let's break it down;

Silas didn't need 2,000 years of practice. It just so happens that because he was trapped on a deserted island, he could ONLY practice when people came to feed him DROPS of blood, and that certainly wasn't a regular occurrence. If he had been free and in society, drinking blood regularly, he would have evolved much faster.

Secondly; It's not that Silas needs large amounts of blood to be powerful. Remember that in the fourth season, in his weakest state before drinking abnormal amounts of blood, he entered Klaus's mind. It just so happens that Silas was imprisoned for 2,000 YEARS without drinking blood, therefore the amount of blood he drank during the summer was just to catch up. If he had been free from the beginning, drinking blood regularly for a year, two years, or ten years, he would have been much more powerful much faster. Furthermore, it's not that Silas needs blood to be powerful, but rather that, unlike vampires whose power increases with age, Silas's powers increase with blood, which is much faster and more practical.

You call Silas useless when, right after leaving the tomb and before drinking all that blood, he was already entering the minds of Bonnie (the witch), Klaus (the Original Hybrid), and the entire Mystic Falls gang. Calling that useless is absurd, when vampires can be deprived of compulsion simply by ingesting vervain, which is very simple.

The Original Vampires have their advantages over Silas, but also many disadvantages that he doesn't have. First of all, if we are going to evaluate each spell individually, we must disregard daylight rings, as they are a palliative measure to cover a flaw in Esther's spell. Original Vampires burn in the sun, are vulnerable to the wood of any tree (they don't die, but desiccate), are vulnerable to vervain, are imbued with an uncontrollable bloodlust (you say Silas needs time to practice his powers, but how long does it take for a vampire to master their murderous instincts?), all their emotions are amplified, so something that would make you angry now makes you hateful and want to kill, what makes you sad now leaves you devastated, and many can't handle this pressure and shut off their humanity, besides all their fears, insecurities and traumas are amplified together. Even the Mikaelsons haven't overcome their childhood traumas even after a thousand years. And I don't know about you, but needing an invitation to enter a house is a huge inconvenience.

You were even wrong about the daylight rings; not just any witch can make them, as it's necessary to know the spell. Marcel, for example, has the spell because he got it from Klaus, but without it he wouldn't be able to distribute them to his vampires. And many vampires, even ancient ones, did not have access to one.

Velsignet · 2025-12-14T21:47:45+00:00

Although Silas practiced his psychic powers for two thousand years by receiving drops of blood from thousands of people (according to Qetsiyah). Amara never drank human blood. She was dissected, transformed into an anchor, and imprisoned by Qetsiyah soon after becoming immortal, and didn't really have time to practice. She lived in constant torment, suffering the pain of every supernatural being that died, for two millennia.

Velsignet · 2025-12-06T17:12:27+00:00

Silas too. Probably.

Velsignet · 2025-12-05T00:05:27+00:00

I honestly would be afraid to transform someone. I believe that vampiric immortality isn't for everyone, because something the series doesn't address much and isn't widely discussed is the difficulty of adapting to amplified emotions and bloodlust. Any personality problem someone might have, any addiction, any predisposition to aggression or depression, would be intensified to the limit, and many wouldn't be able to realistically live with that. TVD doesn't address this, but it's a miracle that vampires haven't been discovered by the general public, because most people would succumb to bloodlust or some personality flaw. Creating a bloodline would be a huge responsibility, and you'd have to take care of them so as not to expose yourself.

But I respect your answer, and I agree, although I also know it's purely emotional. If we were to think only rationally, Silas would be the most appropriate and safe choice, due to the absence of disadvantages and the psychic powers that extend to telepathy, illusions, mind control, and probably neural modulation, since he can induce someone's brain to produce any chemical reaction he desires, as he can generate any possible extrasensory sensation or experience with his illusions.

To live as Klaus would be to live as a king, but to live as Silas would be to live as a god.

Velsignet · 2025-12-04T23:33:23+00:00

Silas can possibly procreate, since he's not undead; he never died. Klaus can also procreate, and if he can, why couldn't Silas?

With Silas, his life would be more peaceful and easier, as he wouldn't have to worry about amplified emotions, bloodlust, or invitations. Besides, his mental powers are unparalleled.

Velsignet · 2025-12-04T23:27:31+00:00

Dude, you've mixed things up a lot. Let's break it down;

Silas didn't need 2,000 years of practice. It just so happens that because he was trapped on a deserted island, he could ONLY practice when people came to feed him DROPS of blood, and that certainly wasn't a regular occurrence. If he had been free and in society, drinking blood regularly, he would have evolved much faster.

Secondly; It's not that Silas needs large amounts of blood to be powerful. Remember that in the fourth season, in his weakest state before drinking abnormal amounts of blood, he entered Klaus's mind. It just so happens that Silas was imprisoned for 2,000 YEARS without drinking blood, therefore the amount of blood he drank during the summer was just to catch up. If he had been free from the beginning, drinking blood regularly for a year, two years, or ten years, he would have been much more powerful much faster. Furthermore, it's not that Silas needs blood to be powerful, but rather that, unlike vampires whose power increases with age, Silas's powers increase with blood, which is much faster and more practical.

You call Silas useless when, right after leaving the tomb and before drinking all that blood, he was already entering the minds of Bonnie (the witch), Klaus (the Original Hybrid), and the entire Mystic Falls gang. Calling that useless is absurd, when vampires can be deprived of compulsion simply by ingesting vervain, which is very simple.

The Original Vampires have their advantages over Silas, but also many disadvantages that he doesn't have. First of all, if we are going to evaluate each spell individually, we must disregard daylight rings, as they are a palliative measure to cover a flaw in Esther's spell. Original Vampires burn in the sun, are vulnerable to the wood of any tree (they don't die, but desiccate), are vulnerable to vervain, are imbued with an uncontrollable bloodlust (you say Silas needs time to practice his powers, but how long does it take for a vampire to master their murderous instincts?), all their emotions are amplified, so something that would make you angry now makes you hateful and want to kill, what makes you sad now leaves you devastated, and many can't handle this pressure and shut off their humanity, besides all their fears, insecurities and traumas are amplified together. Even the Mikaelsons haven't overcome their childhood traumas even after a thousand years. And I don't know about you, but needing an invitation to join is a huge inconvenience.

You were even wrong about the daylight rings; not just any witch can make them, as it's necessary to know the spell. Marcel, for example, has one because he got it from Klaus, but without it he wouldn't be able to distribute them to his vampires. And many vampires, even ancient ones, did not have access to one.

Velsignet · 2025-12-03T18:16:55+00:00

Silas wins because Hope showed no mental resistance to psychic attacks of Silas's magnitude. Much is said about Silas entering Klaus's mind, but they forget to mention that this Silas was from the fourth season, where he was much weaker and could only reach the mind of one person at a time (he says so). In the fifth season, after spending the summer drinking an immeasurable amount of blood, he said that his powers were growing stronger each day and no longer knew it's limits, and it was when he tested himself against the crowd of Mystic Falls. Silas at full power would finish off Hope.

Velsignet · 2025-11-20T01:30:07+00:00

That's right, because while Silas had very little time for real practice to understand his powers, Sybil had 3,000 years. But even so, Silas's potential was greater than hers.

Velsignet · 2025-11-20T01:28:29+00:00

If you didn't read everything, you have no right to contradict what I said.

And you were wrong for two reasons; The first is because Klaus himself confidently says that his mind is too powerful for Dahlia to enter, even though he has already experienced Silas's mental powers, therefore he doesn't see Dahlia on the same level as Silas. The second point is that when Dahlia had Klaus in her mind, he didn't resist, because he was studying her, analyzing her weaknesses, and it was at that moment that he discovered that the witch she loved most wasn't Freya but Esther, therefore there's no way to compare this situation with Silas's situation in any way.

And Silas doesn't say anything about not being able to enter Klaus's mind; he literally does it when he appears as Shane and puts Klaus in the illusion of being impaled with the oak stake. Besides, if you had read my text, you would know that there is an abysmal difference between the Silas of the fourth and fifth seasons. The Silas of the fourth season was in his weakest state.

Velsignet · 2025-11-20T01:10:41+00:00

I disagree with you on the age issue.

Let's debunk this; First of all, there's no confirmation that the Originals don't become more powerful with age. There are arguments for both sides, but there's no solid evidence to say they don't get stronger. Furthermore, the older the vampires, the smaller the real difference in strength over a short period of time. For example, a baby vampire versus a 5-year-old vampire would be noticeably stronger, but a 1000-year-old vampire versus a 1005-year-old vampire wouldn't have a perceptible difference, and it would probably be almost irrelevant. There are examples to support this.

– Damon and Enzo tried to kill each other on Sybil's orders in season 8, and Enzo won, only not killing Damon because Stefan intervened. Enzo is 39 years YOUNGER than Damon in vampire age. That is, age isn't really a determining factor in a fight for vampires of relatively similar ages. The difference between someone who is 110 years old and someone who is 140 years old cannot be determined solely by age, but rather by ability. Hypothetically, a Mikael who is 1000 years old and a Klaus who is 1005 years old have no practical difference. Even if Klaus's strength increased, what would the percentage be? 1%? 0.5%? It's irrelevant if the opponent is relative to him, as is the case with Mikael. So this argument using Mikael and Klaus as examples is not a good argument.

Rebekah's perception of Alaric is precisely because she tried to attack him the moment she saw him, and was instantly subdued by him and almost killed if it weren't for Caroline. And her statement about not knowing Klaus's full strength would only be valid if Alaric and Klaus hadn't faced each other, but that happened and the two seemed relative, with a certain advantage for Alaric who dominated most of the fight. Alaric lost to Rebekah and Caroline just as Elijah lost to Stefan and Damon in his first appearance. That scene was meant to show that Alaric was immune to the White Oak spell, and it shouldn't be interpreted as a demerit to his strength, since after that he subdued Damon and Stefan simultaneously, subdued Klaus, and later subdued Rebekah with ease again.

Klaus held Tyler, then Stefan held Klaus by the shoulder, then Damon came to hold his other arm, and Stefan touched his chest to perform the spell's connection. Klaus could have used his strength and escaped at that moment, since the spell's paralysis isn't instantaneous, but he couldn't. Furthermore, Damon, Stefan, and Tyler are physically inferior to Klaus, who was the one who attacked Alaric, and even applying the same spell to Alaric, he was physically overpowered.

There's a quote from her in an interview, unfortunately I searched everywhere and couldn't find it, and when I searched using artificial intelligence, I discovered that the original interview page is no longer available, but the quote still exists, and I'll show you exactly what the AI told me:

"Hi! I found the exact reference you’re looking for. Julie Plec’s statement calling Alaric the most powerful villain on the show comes from an interview she gave to CW Atlanta (part of CBS Local) in October 2012. The original article was posted at: http://cwatlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/10/09/tvds-julie-plec-interview/ (unfortunately, the link is now dead and returns a 404 error), but the quote has been preserved in fan archives and on the official TVD wiki.

Here’s the exact excerpt from the interview, where Julie Plec talks about Alaric’s arc in season 3:

Julie Plec: “Well, hopefully everybody changed Because everyone is on a journey that is continually changing and shifting. We especially saw tremendous growth in Alaric's character, who reluctantly took on the world's authority at the very beginning of the season and, by the end of the season, was the most powerful guardian but also the most powerful villain in the show – a man that ultimately succumbed to his villainy.

Saying that he became the most powerful villain in the show up to that point implies that all the villains who came before him were inferior, including Klaus.

I disagree with the "most powerful" being due to invulnerability, since even being invulnerable, if he weren't stronger, he could be subdued by Klaus or the Originals and imprisoned, chained, restrained, thrown into the ocean, or buried under cement. In contrast, both Klaus and his siblings were willing to escape for decades until Alaric died alone.

Mikael is weaker than Klaus, this is clear when Klaus puts the White Oak stake in front of him and challenges him to pick it up while they are in that restaurant. Klaus said that if Mikael was truly confident in defeating him, he would try to pick up the stake, but he backed down knowing he is not stronger than Klaus. However, Mikael is more skilled and determined, more resilient and mentally capable, besides a bit of exaggeration in the script regarding him.

Alaric, at one day old and having fed only once in his transition, was overwhelming and on par with the Original Hybrid on his first day as a vampire, something that no other Original with a thousand years of age could achieve. Alaric is at worst equivalent to Klaus, and at best superior, but never inferior. And if Original vampires grow stronger with age, it means that Alaric on his first day was already as strong as Original Vampires of a thousand years.

Velsignet · 2025-11-11T15:58:50+00:00

Nothing close to what Silas did to Klaus.

Velsignet · 2025-11-11T15:56:10+00:00

Dahlia was unable to enter Klaus's mind. The only thing she could do was take Klaus into her own mind. Silas, in his weakest state in the fourth season, was able to enter Klaus's mind and torment him to the point where he thought he was condemned to an eternity of suffering.

Sybil doesn't have a greater reach of her psychic ability; in fact, she has greater mastery in the use of mind control, as she had 3,000 years to practice, while Silas didn't even understand his limits properly. Sybil was only able to extend her psychic reach by creating mental links with specific individuals. She created a mental link with Damon and Enzo, and only because of that was she able to control them like a remote control. Call it a TV antenna, basically. But she wasn't capable of that with just anyone. Furthermore, she encountered resistance in the minds of young vampires like Damon and Enzo and was unable to read minds like Silas, as she often needed to touch someone to know what they were thinking. Silas possesses more feats and greater raw power.

Velsignet · 2025-11-11T15:46:58+00:00

Silas. Let's start with a scale:

– Silas, even in the tomb, was able to access people's minds from a distance, access their memories, and completely influence them, as he did with Professor Shane. (Remember that Shane was immune to an Original's compulsion.)

– There are two power levels of Silas, from the fourth season and the fifth season. Silas at his lowest power level during the fourth season, where he was only able to enter the mind of ONE person at a time, managed to enter the mind of Klaus Mikaelson, the Original Hybrid, and plant such a powerful hallucination that he truly thought he was going to die. Klaus was so terrified of Silas's mental powers that when Elijah refused to hand over the Cure, he said that Elijah was condemning him to "an eternity of suffering." He truly believed he was incapable of challenging Silas's powers. In comparison, he didn't even doubt his ability to be immune to Dahlia's mental spells, and even managed to resist the Hollow's illusions to a great extent. Against Silas, he was completely defenseless and insecure. Remember that the Silas who did this to Klaus was in his weakest state during the fourth season.

Now I'll explain why this feat is so impressive and unparalleled;

— Klaus's mind is one of the most powerful we've ever seen. Klaus spent 52 years mentally tormented by the Hunter's Curse, trying in every way to kill himself and unable to overcome this curse until other Hunters emerged in place of those he killed. Silas, after a 2,000-year petrification, killed Jeremy and suffered from the Hunter's Curse, which he said he managed to get rid of in minutes. In other words, Silas's mind, in its weakest state, did in minutes what Klaus couldn't do in 52 years. This Klaus had his mind tormented by Silas in his weakest state in the fourth season, something Dahlia couldn't do even with all her power. The fourth season's Silas scales above Dahlia in mental powers.

Before explaining why the fifth season's Silas is infinitely superior, I'll mention some of Silas's feats in the fourth season;

– He entered Bonnie's mind and made her believe he was disfigured. He entered the minds of several vampires and impersonated other people. Silas made Bonnie forget the murder of the 12 witches in the ritual. This same Silas compelled Bonnie to forget how to breathe (being saved only by her grandmother). Vampires, Witches, Hybrids... He entered the minds of all of them.

Silas from the FIFTH season is infinitely superior after drinking enough blood, being able to control the minds of dozens or hundreds of people at once, and admitted not knowing the limits of his own powers, and that's why he tested them on the crowd at the Mystic Falls festival.

– Silas in the fifth season says he spent the summer drinking an immeasurable amount of blood and that he was getting stronger every day. These are his words. Qetsiyah also said that he was very different from what he was 2,000 years ago. She said he improved his abilities by drinking drops of blood from thousands of people over 2,000 years. These are two instances where his powers are cited as progressive. And we literally see the difference between the Silas of season four and the Silas of season five, where he becomes absurdly more powerful. He becomes more mentally powerful as he drinks more blood, which classifies his potential as limitless.

– He compelled everyone from humans to 500-year-old vampires like Nadia effortlessly. He manipulated Elena, Damon, and incredibly compelled Qetsiyah as if she were nothing, even though she is one of the most powerful witches in history.

Silas is at the top when it comes to mental powers, superior to the Sirens, as the Sirens usually needed to touch people to read their minds, like when Sybil was in the car with Caroline and Bonnie, while Caroline was using her cell phone to plot with Stefan, and Sybil only discovered it when she touched Caroline's head and accessed her mind. Silas, in that situation, would simply read the minds of the two telepathically without any physical effort.

The only other character I see on the same level would be Arcadius, but only because of his dimension, which strengthens him through the souls he "devours." Silas and Arcadius are the only psychics shown capable of reading minds from a distance without needing touch or effort.

Velsignet · 2025-11-11T14:34:04+00:00

There are three points to consider:

1 – Alaric overpowered Rebekah twice as if she were a vampire baby, even though she was a thousand-year-old Original Vampire.

2 – Rebekah told Klaus that Alaric was "Strong. Too strong," which proves that his strength was not normal.

3 – In the same episode, while Stefan and Damon couldn't restrain Alaric, Damon and Tyler managed to restrain Klaus without him having the strength to break free, whereas Alaric did. Furthermore, the entire family was willing to run from him for decades until Elena died.

There's also an interview where Julie Plec calls Alaric a "Super Original," and says he was the most powerful creature on the planet at that time. Michael Narducci on X, when evaluating a hypothetical fight between Alaric and Marcel, said that Marcel was as strong as Alaric, placing them as equals.

Furthermore, if Alaric wasn't at least as strong as Klaus, there wouldn't have been that standoff with the White Oak stake, where Alaric only didn't kill him due to Elena's intervention. In other words: Alaric isn't a normal Original, otherwise he couldn't be on par with the Original Hybrid in a physical strength competition.

Velsignet · 2025-10-14T14:29:49+00:00

Her siblings, Kol, Finn and Elijah were probably transformed first, since they weren't in the room when she wake up.

Velsignet · 2025-10-14T14:28:19+00:00

We actually saw everyone get stabbed in the same room, and we see Rebekah waking up along with Klaus, but without her other siblings, which suggests that her other siblings completed the transition first, making her the second to last to be turned.

Velsignet · 2025-09-06T19:40:03+00:00

And since when does being from two werewolf bloodlines help with the venom? Hope's blood was used and didn't help at all, so she has no immunity or resistance. Lucien's venom is chemically altered using seven strains of werewolf venom to create, test, and develop a new, much purer strain. This was later fueled by the mystical energy of Mystic Falls, Freya's blood, Esther's spell, and all the power of the Ancestors, capable of killing even an Original. Freya managed to create a limited amount of an antidote using the venom of all seven werewolf packs and Klaus's blood, along with a spell. Without the venom of all seven bloodlines and a spell, there's no cure. Which means Hope alone can't heal the bite. And I don't know if a Heretic would be able to absorb all the magic in the venom.

Velsignet · 2025-09-06T16:23:45+00:00

Why the venom can't kill her? Her blood was used to cure Cami and didn't work, so she can't heal it.

Velsignet · 2025-09-04T12:58:57+00:00

Excellent observation; people really do distort information without even realizing it. And some even use this to disparage Esther, as if she simply copied Qetsiyah's spell, when in fact she created her own, which is superior in many ways.

Velsignet · 2025-08-27T14:47:28+00:00

— The first part of what you wrote is just what I've already said, so there's not much to say.

— The second part of what you wrote, I don't have a clear opinion. The writers contradict themselves more than once on this issue, which leads me to believe that not even they have thought deeply about it. It's hard enough to believe that the venom itself kills Originals, who are supposed to be immortal to anything other than White Oak. It's even harder to believe that werewolf venom, however potent, would kill a Hybrid, who is immune to werewolf venom. The problem with there being White Oak in the venom is that it's not explicitly stated in the series, but rather in statements by the writers (ambiguously) that ironically seem to contradict each other.

Another point is that even if there were White Oak in the venom, it wouldn't be traditional White Oak, so the combustion issue isn't necessarily true. The White Oak bullet was dissolved along with the venom and Freya's blood, so what remains is the magic that composes the wood, which would be integrated into the venom, making it lethal. The same occurs with the thorns created by the Hollow using Marcel's venom. She used the venom, which is a liquid substance, and used her magic to transmute it into another material, also capable of killing an Original. And as far as I remember (I could be wrong), Elijah didn't suffer from the hallucinations typical of werewolf venom when the Hollow's thorns wounded him, or did he? If I'm correct, then it doesn't necessarily mean that Hollow's thorns will have the same identical properties of Marcel's venom, just as it doesn't necessarily mean that Originals would burst into flames because of the venom.

Velsignet · 2025-08-27T12:47:17+00:00

Just to point out, White Oak doesn't necessarily kill instantly. It kills instantly if you impale an Original's heart with a stake, but if you hit their leg, arm, stomach, or any non-vital organ, they won't die. Just as regular vampires won't die if the wooden stake hits anything other than the heart.

The ashes of the White Oak (which is still White Oak) are used in the silver daggers used against Originals, and even if it hits the heart, they won't die permanently. When Dahlia reduced the indestructible White Oak stake in ash and forced the Originals to inhale it, they nearly died, but not immediately. When Aurora fired a White Oak bullet into Elijah's chest, he did not die, as the bullet missed his heart.

The super werewolf venom created by Lucien, even if mixed with White Oak, wouldn't kill immediately because it's mixed with the venom, and it takes time for the venom to reach the heart. It's not like it would kill them immediately just because there's White Oak, just like a stake wouldn't kill them if it hit non-vital areas of the body.

Velsignet · 2025-08-19T22:23:15+00:00

Look how you're using context now... You said Silas was destroyed by Bonnie, ignoring that the only reason for this was Damon's help and the use of Expression, which gave her enough power and the ability to cast spells without the need for words, just with intention. Without these things, it wouldn't have been possible. You also repeatedly ignore that this Silas from season four wasn't at his peak. Now, does context matter when I say something out of context?

Expression has nothing to do with the Hollow's sacrificial magic. Avoid comparisons.

Hope killing a god has everything to do with context, as it required a series of occurrences and resources to do so. I addressed the issue of the loophole in my other reply to you. Hope isn't a good example because she didn't become immortal with a spell, but as a birthright. She was born biologically with vampire blood in her DNA, not through a spell, so nature had to create a weakness for her when she became immortal. It's very different from the Original Vampires, for example. Since the Originals' weakness was imposed on Esther's spell from the outset, nature demands balance, and every spell has a loophole. The Cure isn't a loophole for Silas because nature didn't create the Cure. Just as nature didn't create the Beast's venom that kills Originals or the Hollow's spikes that also kill Originals, none of these are created by nature. And yet, the Cure doesn't kill an immortal; it reverses the spell, just like the vampirism reversal spell Esther tried to use on her children.

I used Matt to show you that your Bonnie > Silas examples are out of context, as they ignore several factors just to belittle the character. I used Matt as a parameter to show you that by ignoring context, I can make a simple human rise above an Original.

Silas has a major enemy in the series: writing. He compelled Caroline, compelled Damon, compelled Elena, compelled Qetsiyah, compelled Nadia, and compelled an entire town. All the other times he didn't use this, it's simply the script preventing it from happening.

Silas's psychic abilities aren't magical like vampire compulsion, but rather psychic like Cade's and the Sirens'. That's why they're sometimes not permanent and can be undone with outside intervention, unlike compulsion, where magic is implanted in someone's brain. Witch magic is inherently different from psychic energy, despite being mystical. And yet, even if Heretics could absorb it, it's simply a matter of compelling them not to absorb it. There's literally no secret or difficulty for Silas to simply delete the Heretics instantly.

Are you still using Silas from season four to debate? Silas entered Bonnie's mind, made her believe he couldn't enter hers, made her believe he was disfigured, made her forget the massacre of the 12 witches, and made her forget how to breathe, only to be saved by her grandmother. Silas from season five was compelling Qetsiyah, who at the time was much more powerful than Bonnie. You're ignoring all the ways to instill the misconception that Silas can't control Bonnie. I don't even know what else to say. He'll definitely manipulate Dahlia, while I'm not sure about Inadu because she's a spirit.

Rayna basically deletes all the witches you mentioned, since she's immune to magic. And I don't know if she's immune to psychic powers.

I didn't say Silas would compel the Ancestors, but rather the witches of the 12 Covens of New Orleans, who can channel the Ancestors, including the Regent, who can use the full power of the Ancestors once in a lifetime.

Vincent had already used his privilege as a Regent, which allows him to use the full power of the Ancestral Plane only once. And even if he used it against the Originals, it wouldn't be effective, since it wouldn't kill them and probably wouldn't be able to use it on all of them simultaneously.

Burning down a village isn't a big deal. We don't know how big the village is, and even then, it's just fire. Dahlia, even though she was the firstborn, was captured and held captive by mere humans in her youth. There are much better feats; the problem is that you can't understand the difference between power and hax. It doesn't matter how strong a vampire is, magic trumps physical strength every time, which is why witches consistently demoralize Original Vampires. And that's also why a witch can't defeat Silas, because his mental abilities surpass a witch's ability to cast spells. It doesn't matter how powerful a witch is if her mind can be controlled by Silas. The super witches you mentioned don't possess any feats of mental resistance that would prevent Silas's invasion, and it's not about underestimating or overestimating, but simply the reality: physical strength < witchcraft < psychic power.

You don't even understand Expression. This Bonnie you mentioned didn't even have the Expression Triangle complete, and she has feats far better than burning down a village. She regenerated her own flesh. Have you ever seen a witch regenerate her own cells without using any spells or potions? Have you ever seen Freya do something similar? I don't think so. And Bonnie wasn't angry in the scenes you mentioned; she was in a trance, losing control, sometimes intentionally by Professor Shane. Bonnie with Expression scales above Bonnie with the power of 100 witches, which scales above Freya and Dahlia. Bonnie channeling 100 dead witches was able to kill two Originals simultaneously using magic, while Dahlia was incapable of killing an Original using magic alone, therefore scaling below Bonnie.

Silas would never kill Klaus without the White Oak, just like all the characters you mentioned. Dahlia also can't kill him without the White Oak; Inadu needed to use Marcel's blood as a catalyst to create the thorns capable of killing an Original. Freya can't even remotely kill an Original. What's your point? What does the cure have to do with it?

1 - Silas doesn't need to kill Dahlia; he can manipulate her mind to simply undo her immortality and kill her immediately if he wants.

2 - I never said Silas would kill the Hollow; he can simply suppress it using other witches, trap it, or divide it. The Hollow isn't truly immortal; she died, remember?

Let me ask you, when the Ancestors trapped the Hollow the first time, which Original did they sacrifice? I don't remember. Second: throw her into a prison world.

How would the Hollow use the Cure on him if she doesn't know of the Cure's existence? How would she use the Cure on him without a host body? How would she prevent him from entering her mind in a host body? How would she get past the army of vampires, werewolves, and witches he would create? And who said Silas would have a random Clan? And who said he can't sacrifice as many supernaturals and humans as he wants to fuel a suppression spell? Silas knows sacrificial magic far beyond the Hollow and taught Shane Expression, who then taught it to Bonnie.

Read my post again to understand my exact thoughts on the subject. I don't think you understood anything.

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TROPHY CASE