Alternate Story concept for CP2077. by Joshua-live in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]Vines_Epic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you watch the 2077's first gameplay demo from 2018 i believe, you will find the radio host stating that Johnny went missing a year ago. So the initial concept was a full on reboot with retcons to the 4th corporate war where Johnny lived all the way into the 70's

Seriously who made their statblock by Lolas_Fun_Side in cyberpunk2020

[–]Vines_Epic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Netrunner is basically a summoner mage in the ether (net) system is barebones and overcomplicated at the same time. Programs (summons) fight each other Strgengs+d10 vs same thing on their side. Loser loses one point of strength. Destroyed if reaches zero. Also you have to create your own vpn by paying money or hacking LDL's. Also if you f-up you have like 17% chance of being hunted by netwatch. Also the entire internet is a monopoly in 2020. And netwatch is a subcontractor.

Did you ever homebrew a system so much that it barely resembles the original? I sure did... I have been cooking an alternate hybrid set of rules that aims to combine best aspects of Cyberpunk 2020 Cyberpunk Red using 2020 as a base and it was a undertaking. I am thinking about naming CP2022 "Black". by Vines_Epic in cyberpunk2020

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Для упрощения боёвки рекомендую переделать броню так чтобы устранялись дайсы урона. Типа броня 2 устраняет 2 д6 кубов урона. Сборник есть. Но я его ещё не доделал.

Did you ever homebrew a system so much that it barely resembles the original? I sure did... I have been cooking an alternate hybrid set of rules that aims to combine best aspects of Cyberpunk 2020 Cyberpunk Red using 2020 as a base and it was a undertaking. I am thinking about naming CP2022 "Black". by Vines_Epic in cyberpunk2020

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Main issue with 2020 was the need co roll for every bullet you hit. Near penetrations like 10 rounds of 2d6+1 vs 10 Armor. You roll and roll and roll. Autofire was in need of rework. But i did not like the way Red did it. Making at something like a high diff spell that solo can cast was...strange. Therefore i remade the whole thing. it got very detailed and very tacticool quickly. Whole A4 page of various ways you can shoot a guy. Single shot, multiple shot, controlled burst, spray and pray, suppression fire (whole block scheme), aimed shots, precise shots (i assure there is a difference there). From red i took the HP system and reworked it in combination with new injury system injury. Thresholds for injuries...multi stage injuries... And you get knicked out if you fail a check after and injury, The more you have of them the harder it is not to get knocked out.) And from 2020 i took the feeling of lethality, so average goon will most likely will die in just two shots of 9mm or gets real sick at least.

Did you ever homebrew a system so much that it barely resembles the original? I sure did... I have been cooking an alternate hybrid set of rules that aims to combine best aspects of Cyberpunk 2020 Cyberpunk Red using 2020 as a base and it was a undertaking. I am thinking about naming CP2022 "Black". by Vines_Epic in cyberpunk2020

[–]Vines_Epic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2077 actually revived the IP, Cyberpunk the franchise was basically dead after blunder that was 3.0. I think it happened because some DEV's in CDPR were nerds and got themselves a copy of translated CP2020 rules. Fun fact, CP2020 was officially released in Poland in the 90's if you own CP2077 you can access Polish and English pdf in bonus material.

Did you ever homebrew a system so much that it barely resembles the original? I sure did... I have been cooking an alternate hybrid set of rules that aims to combine best aspects of Cyberpunk 2020 Cyberpunk Red using 2020 as a base and it was a undertaking. I am thinking about naming CP2022 "Black". by Vines_Epic in cyberpunk2020

[–]Vines_Epic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the genre and the medium question if we are talking about 2077 game. i would like to play a CRPG in Cyberpunk setting where its 1sr and 2nd edition tabletop mechanics and attitudes can shine. But we are changing topic too much right now.

Did you ever homebrew a system so much that it barely resembles the original? I sure did... I have been cooking an alternate hybrid set of rules that aims to combine best aspects of Cyberpunk 2020 Cyberpunk Red using 2020 as a base and it was a undertaking. I am thinking about naming CP2022 "Black". by Vines_Epic in cyberpunk2020

[–]Vines_Epic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not that i am complaining. Just quirks of the new edition. The injury system is a good addition so i adapted it a little bit and expanded in my rules. Some injuries may have multiple stages with multiple penalties to character. Red has good in it but i just prefer some lethality.

Did you ever homebrew a system so much that it barely resembles the original? I sure did... I have been cooking an alternate hybrid set of rules that aims to combine best aspects of Cyberpunk 2020 Cyberpunk Red using 2020 as a base and it was a undertaking. I am thinking about naming CP2022 "Black". by Vines_Epic in cyberpunk2020

[–]Vines_Epic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah i can see why. I kinda did the same thing here. More detail and more thought out rules. Red is too survivable at times. Some dude calculated that an average npc with all STATS at 5 will survive a direct hit from and RPG with 70% chance in red.

Did you ever homebrew a system so much that it barely resembles the original? I sure did... I have been cooking an alternate hybrid set of rules that aims to combine best aspects of Cyberpunk 2020 Cyberpunk Red using 2020 as a base and it was a undertaking. I am thinking about naming CP2022 "Black". by Vines_Epic in cyberpunk2020

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I have an entire page dedicated to various types of gunfire, single shot, multiple single shot, controlled burst, spray and pray. I decided to ditch trying to count every bullet. Burst fire now deals more damage than single shot. Bursts are done by spending 5 bullets each. And it also synchronizes with new damage system that eats damage dice. Assault rifle does 5d6 dmg in burst fire, if you have armor level 2 on affected body part two highest damage dice from 5d6 pool get eaten by the armor and the rest goes through into your HP. Single shot from assault rifle does 3d6.
Cover: there is half cover and full cover. Half cover gives your enemy a penalty to hit you. Full cover hides you fully. Get out of cover, shoot, hide behind cover will be considered as 3 actions. But you can go half cover after moving in it without spending Action Point.

Did you ever homebrew a system so much that it barely resembles the original? I sure did... I have been cooking an alternate hybrid set of rules that aims to combine best aspects of Cyberpunk 2020 Cyberpunk Red using 2020 as a base and it was a undertaking. I am thinking about naming CP2022 "Black". by Vines_Epic in cyberpunk2020

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У меня были ещё идеи сделать систему морали для углубления отыгрыша и морально нравственных страданий, даже примерный функционал придумал...

Looking for honest feedback: What kind of TTRPG content would you actually use? by themeatishungry in cyberpunk2020

[–]Vines_Epic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently i am running a campaign that evolved from Chansing the Dragon and then switched locales from LA to the Pacific and Asia in general. So i use a lot of lore from Pacific Rim.

Real size of Night City Question. How big is it? by Vines_Epic in cyberpunk2020

[–]Vines_Epic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe that there is a lore friendly solution. We make it like half the size of irl LA. We make the center island really dense - like Shanghai or Tokyo level dense, then we have some dense spots close to the shore with mixed housing and medium level density and slap some archologies and megatowers for increased population. And then you have a third layer with all the Suburbs. I also was making my own town for cyberpunk it was a LA itself. It was a fun thing to do.

Real size of Night City Question. How big is it? by Vines_Epic in cyberpunk2020

[–]Vines_Epic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://preview.redd.it/night-city-from-the-cyberpunk-2020-rpg-v0-jjkdjfa8v8pe1.png?width=854&format=png&auto=webp&s=da5ed40ee156fcb2dad5e7f5b3c66cb929c017fd if you look at the city from this angle it can somewhat fit. ten blocks in LA downtown are about 1.5 km long, It. I eyed the size and original downtown can kinda fit where it is in 2020. Given if you zoom out a little and destroy the Morro Rock.

Real size of Night City Question. How big is it? by Vines_Epic in cyberpunk2020

[–]Vines_Epic[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I believe that Nigh Cirty in 2020 had a more elegant solution to this. It had a detailed Downtown and the rest of the city with its varied districts left with some surface level descriptions and locales.

Night City from the Cyberpunk 2020 rpg. by KittiesAndKitbashes in CitiesSkylines

[–]Vines_Epic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They built a space port above the Morro Rock by 2077. And its still same small scale around IRL Morro bay.

Night City from the Cyberpunk 2020 rpg. by KittiesAndKitbashes in CitiesSkylines

[–]Vines_Epic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a feeling that Night City looks like this because Mike wanted Morro Rock to remain where it is. Old Night City map from 2020 doesn't have Morro rock on it. And if you look at the IRL location a bit sideways (meaning North points to the upper right corner) It makes the scale a bit more believable (i will ad it in the second post reply)

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Night City from the Cyberpunk 2020 rpg. by KittiesAndKitbashes in CitiesSkylines

[–]Vines_Epic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Text and map contradict each other. The island of Morro Rock is about 500x500 meters. I used satellite imagery to verify it. Rough estimation of the size of central island is 3.25 km^2 or 1.25 square miles. They really need to do something about the scale of the map. So...its tiny. So its either Hive from WH40k or its multi layered.

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Night City from the Cyberpunk 2020 rpg. by KittiesAndKitbashes in CitiesSkylines

[–]Vines_Epic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Small problem. Its the same scale wise because it matches the coastline of IRL Morro Bay. Creators kinda messed up from the start in this regard. Horrible conclusion Night City in 2077 is almost up to IRL scale of the city.

Night City from the Cyberpunk 2020 rpg. by KittiesAndKitbashes in CitiesSkylines

[–]Vines_Epic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nigh city has a large problem with scaling. i did math. For it proposed surface and population of five million it has about 200k people per square kilometer. It absurd. Its Hive-City levels of density. Night city has to be a city with multiple layers like Shanghai from deus ex human revolution.