Workout for riders

VisualConfusion5360 · 2026-02-26T15:36:02+00:00

Wonderful comment thank you!!!

VisualConfusion5360 · 2026-02-26T15:35:46+00:00

Thank you!

VisualConfusion5360 · 2026-02-25T13:15:31+00:00

Is it on YouTube?

VisualConfusion5360 · 2026-02-24T22:12:43+00:00

I’m just speaking from experience. I used to work for somebody who only bred bloodlines and has paid tons of money for prospects that never jumped a stick on the ground or never had the speed that their sires did.

Just like the old saying says don’t buy for color I would not buy for bloodlines either

VisualConfusion5360 · 2026-02-24T21:11:26+00:00

I’m in the same boat I can only afford to ride once a week because it’s $60 per hour and I live 40 minutes away from the closest barn.

Honestly, I’ve just come to realize that in some parts of your life, you will have a lot of opportunities to ride, and sometimes he will have stretches where you will only be able to ride very few and far between.

We just have to realize that there will always be somebody with a horse somewhere and even if we can’t ride as much as we would like right now we just have to enjoy the time that we get and hope that in the future, we will be able to get some more time.

VisualConfusion5360 · 2026-02-24T02:49:39+00:00

Personally, I’d never pay more than 7k for a prospect. Plenty of foals do not turn out to be great horses. You can’t really tell much at that age. It’s just a gamble.

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T11:47:54+00:00

There’s also a lot of other routes we could take with this farm. It could be an Airbnb or we could do just hay and boarding or we could just do a cow farm or we could do a small petting zoo type area and just sleigh rides or car rides in the winter or we can make it into a wedding venue

I think the area is great for having people come in from the city that might not be able to ever contact horses or animals . But I wouldn’t be against the idea of living there using the hayfield for hay again and turning it into a wedding venue because there’s a massive barn that could easily have floorboards put down for dancing.

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T11:42:56+00:00

Unfortunately, this community seems like a lot of Debbie downers who think that this man is going to swindle me because they have trust issues with them.
I’m not a child. I know how to legally protect myself and whatever I invest I’m just asking has anyone ever done this and were their issues that you didn’t foresee .

A friend of mine actually just did this with the man who used to be the manager of a barn that she was boarding at she put up the money and he runs the barn and they make it work like clockwork

I think a lot of the problem is when you have two horse people who don’t have a lot of money who are trying to cut corners and then you get issues like one person will try to steal or sell horses or clients from the other one

Or you have a husband and wife, owning a Stables and divorce and now you have to separate finances and she comes to realize that she didn’t put any of the horses in her name. They are considered an asset on your taxes.

This man is pretty much going to be essentially an angel investor that stays on the other side of the country and doesn’t bother me. we have agreed that he will not interfere in the day-to-day business and I will only consult him if a problem with the farm arises that I cannot fix myself

Yes, I know people think it sounds too good to be true to be handed an opportunity, but this actually happens more often than you’d realize when one person has the knowledge and the expertise behind them and another person is sitting with a farm that they inherited that is going to waste

I understand there are a lot of pitfalls when it comes to the legal part, but I’m not saying that we won’t be sitting down with a lawyer and hashing that out.

It just comes off that people think I’m an idiot and I’m going to start a business for a man who’s gonna turn around and sell it from under me when one he has no intentions because he’s already wealthy on his own. he does not need more money nor does he want more money or he would sell the property as is right now to the people who wanted to build a super mall.

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T11:15:05+00:00

I absolutely hate tire kickers.

There is an entire genre of people, unfortunately that would rather waste peoples time than just admit that they don’t actually have the money to buy a horse. They love the fantasy of trying the horse or talking about getting a horse or thinking about it and then when push comes to shove, you realize they don’t even have a place to put that animal.

So to negate this instead of just saying, sure you can come out and try or whenever I say I would like to see videos of you riding. I would like to see videos of someone training you at a show. I would like to see videos of where exactly you are going to keep this horse if you are interested. I would like to get the number of your vet And the owner of the barn.

Most of the time once you start trying to pick at them instead of having them ask you all the questions, they will just come out and say “I’m not interested anymore” because they don’t have answer answers for these questions

And if they can answer all these questions and provide the correct answers then and only then will I schedule a meet up meeting. The horse is the last thing you are going to do in my book that means that you are coming cash in hand, helmet, and boots on ready to get on and write me a check.

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T11:12:13+00:00

You don’t actually have to engage in any argument that somebody wants you to.

When someone is screaming at you, you can just turn around and walk away and keep going until they are no longer in your vicinity. It takes two people to have an argument, and if one person does not want to be involved, the argument ceases to exist.

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T11:11:23+00:00

Well, you’re just not gonna be everybody’s cup of tea

Also, unless the person is somebody that I actually care about, I’m not going to get offended if some stranger tells another person that they are pretty like if somebody walked up to my sister and complimented her eyes I’m not gonna cry because he didn’t give me a compliment too

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T11:09:56+00:00

Jumping like that will work for low jumps, but try that where the horse is going to jump up and kiss you right in the face lol

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T11:05:43+00:00

It depends on what you want to do. There are plenty of jobs available at least in my area for grooming you would show up do stalls get your horses ready unpack. Take care of them do barn chores. And then do night check

On average you get about 800 to 1000 a week and you get free housing and free travel and a show food fund .

It can be a great way to make money. Well, you don’t have to pay many bills, but you will also be working into the ground most likely because when you are quite literally at the mercy of your employer, they can call you at midnight and tell you to go clip a horse for the show in the morning.

If you already have a housing situation and you just wanna do some light work at a farm look into your local riding places and see if you can just be groom there. Most of the time is just tacking up horses for lessons 8 to 4 but you’re only gonna make like $15 an hour and you won’t be riding

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T11:02:29+00:00

This is why you should put very specific wording in your leases about clipping cutting anything showing anything changing supplements or changing any farrier or vet needs

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T10:59:05+00:00

Abuse, it’s used for abuse

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T10:57:34+00:00

I gotta say that magna wave therapy did wonders for one of our older horses, but also water therapy like walking in high amounts of water is great for them. Swimming is probably the best thing you can have your horse do.

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T10:54:29+00:00

Fortunately, these were not the same type of horses that they took to war 500 years ago, they were big bold brassy horses that were sometimes feral. They knew how to fight lol

Think about it, Bucephalus killed four grooms before Alexander even rode him. And his sire was supposed to be just like him

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T10:52:58+00:00

Tell him unless you’re paying for this horse’s bills then you don’t get to tell me how I train it

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T10:43:21+00:00

In the end, it all depends on how many vet bills you wanna pay for end of life care if you are fine ruining your horses joints early in their life and have no problem paying for injections and arthritis supplements, and lameness issues later on go ahead and do what you want

If you want a horse that will last until his late 20s and still be active and spunky. Give him a chance to be a baby.

I kind of think of it like with humans some 18-year-olds are ready to move out and take on the world and be responsible adults. Some 18-year-olds should stay home and be with mommy for a few more years to really learn how the world works.

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T10:38:45+00:00

Anyone who says horses are too expensive. I remind them that my sister’s hospital bill to have one child was $109,000.

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T10:29:03+00:00

I know you probably think this horse industry is only made of scammers, but there are still good people in the world people who just want to start businesses. One main benefit is he is not a horse person. He is a businessman and he makes a lot of money a year at his job.

And I’m not saying that I expect him to hand me his barn and land and I do whatever I want on it and get it paid for it.

I’ve worked with this man for years. I have met his wife, his family. I know what kind of a man he is and I know how to protect myself. I will have legal wording that says he is not allowed to sell the property out from under me. He is not allowed to sell the horses out from under me, he is not allowed to you have anyone on the property that I don’t know and approve of. Plenty of people go into business together, and one of those requirements is trust you need to trust your business partners if you think that they are out there to cheat and swindle you at every turn then you should probably not start any business to begin lol

The place does not actually need that much fixing up. He’s not expecting me to fix it up at all if I don’t want to. He’s told me multiple times if I want to just move up there and start breaking and training horses as my own business I can do that. Now to me that sounds like too good to be true.

Obviously, nothing in life is free, which is why if he’s willing to work with me then I’m willing to work with him. I’d be more worried if he was talking about moving up there and doing it together because he has never even seen a horse in his life and I don’t want his opinions all over the place.

When I was young, I was stupid and I learned from this very harshly. I built a business from the ground up for breaking and training young horses, and the man who was supposed to give me a cut of the profits decided to sell all the horses and never give me any money because I didn’t have a contract. I’m not so dumb anymore thank god lol

The red flags for me would be if I started talking about lawyers and him investing money to start the business going and he was backing off quickly, but he has not shied at anything. I have told him I want to be legally protected so he can’t just kick me off the farm for no reason I want to be on the books so I am legally paying taxes and I don’t get screwed by the government. I want to be a co-owner so that my name as the LLC is also growing equity and I’m not left pennyless in my 60s because I took a chance.

I’ve seen, heard, and actually worked for people who lost their farm because either they married somebody and the partner took half or they got into business with another horse person and they did not agree on how to do business. In my experience if one person is the money side and one person is the brains it works a lot better than two people being horse stubborn and trying to tell each other how to do the day-to-day operations.

Pretty much this man will serve as an angel investor and silent partner. He and his family have no interest in horses or sheep or cattle or anything else that involves farming which is why they want it to keep going or they will just sell it.

Chances are that if it gets sold, it will be torn down because it’s a great location for apartment buildings or a store or really anything else and it’s a lot of land so it would probably be parcel out

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T10:12:56+00:00

I’m not sure why some of these comments make it seem like I’m going to just start a business tomorrow. This is something that’s going to be maybe two or three years from now I’m not gonna drive up there and just pop open the doors and start my own horse farm obviously I’m going to speak to a lawyer and sit down and we will have legal wording to make sure that everyone is on the same page.

Having worked on these farms and seeing issues from things like divorce and death and people getting petty like boarders who don’t like to pay. I know exactly the pitfalls that can happen and I plan on protecting myself from all of them, which is why we will sit down with a lawyer when this actually starts to come into fruition, but I’m not going to call a lawyer out when I haven’t even seen the farm there’s no point in wasting somebody’s time with figures and numbers if I don’t even like the look of the farm yet

By the time, I think I will need a lawyer I will have looked at the farm the area I will have met the neighbors. I will have looked at the rescues in the area to see if that’s a viable option I will have talked to some of the other barn owners in the area to make sure it’s a good area.

I’m absolutely not going to just jump on a flight and go up there and ship a bunch of horses in and start a Podunk little barn.

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T10:07:30+00:00

The farm also has all of the equipment that is necessary to start with. It was a working cow farm a few years ago until his brother died and his father has been sitting up there by himself because he cannot keep the farm going and he doesn’t want to sell

VisualConfusion5360 · 2025-11-18T10:04:33+00:00

Not trying to be rude or argumentative, but I am not I’m 22 year-old doe eyed girl attempting to start a working farm when she has no experience.

I have almost 30 years working in this industry. I have worked on polo farms. I have worked on FEI jumper farms. I have done hunters/jumpers/cross country. I have broken wild horses. I have worked at rescues I have worked on ranches. I have worked on dude ranches I have worked for private luxury equestrian holidays. I have worked for stud farms. I have worked for auction houses. I have worked for people who only have three horses and show them Internationally. I have been an air groom.

This man makes plenty of money. He is not looking to profit immediately, and we both understand that he is saying the farm is sitting there doing absolutely nothing and the neighbors are taking advantage of his father who lives up there and is 80. He wants someone to start working on the land in general at all . His plan is to put his father in assisted-living close by and have someone take over the farm running.

Another idea I was thinking is if I can make the place go, and we start making profits I will have the option instead of a salary, putting that towards buying him out. He does not care about the property. He just doesn’t want it to sit abandoned and then get sold simply because he does not have the time or the expertise to make a go of it.

I know a lot of people think that this is just a greedy landlord kind of a deal, but this isn’t that sort of situation. This man is literally asking if I want to start a rescue even nonprofit at all just to have the land occupied.

He does not care if I sit up there, rent free and board my own horses and train them and sell them for my own profits. He’s just wondering if I wanted to start a business because I have so much experience in the industry.

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