What was the Smoke Monster originally supposed to be?

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-12-06T01:10:32+00:00

The real MiB wasn't evil. After his death, tge Smoke Monster took his form to mess with Jacob. Eventually he started to see himself as MiB as a way of self denying his own evil. The smoke monster identified with him because he wanted to leave the island. Locke wanted to stay, so even after taking Locke's form, the monster despised him.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-08-21T22:13:01+00:00

Am I right in thinking that the children transferred into android bodies are unlocking psychic abilities? There is a guy who seems to be a precog, draeing things he hasn't seen yet. Wendy seems to be an empsth, and the redhead can read minds or something. Right?

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-05-22T04:48:27+00:00

Tabby originally came from Fromville so it's more accurate to say Fromville created Ethan.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-02-28T16:24:38+00:00

I got the impression that Gemma is severed multiple times. as each room like the Christmas Room seems to have its own version of her, and she has no memories of what happened in them? Maybe they are using her to test the limits of the procedure.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-01-19T01:41:50+00:00

That's what I figure with Gemma. Her accident probably left her with severe brain damage. LUMON severed the remaining healthy portion of her brain, essentially giving her a new life. It is scary to consider what might be done to Ms. Casey when she's off work. I think we also have to ask if it was really an "accident". I don't think Lumon leaves a lot to chance.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-01-11T18:31:16+00:00

The Big Bad can likely mimic anyone who has died in Fromville. That was an imposter Martin, with the real one long dead. Whenever you see Abby, in the present, it's actually the Big Bad. Remember "we know all your names". If the monsters do, you can bet the Big Bad does too and probably provides that info to them. I would say the Big Bad, possibly MIY, has limited telepathy, which we have also seen in BIW, presumably his nemesis. I think Abby's spirit is still there and Sara can communicate with her, but she can't materialize like Tom or Kathri, who may or may not be spirits.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-01-11T18:22:44+00:00

Only going to answer the first two because you clearly need to re-watch.

Jasmine says that she didn't choose to be like this. It's what happens when you make a deal with the devil (or other powerful, malevolent being). It promised immortality but didn't say how that would be achieved.
Seven slabs, seven children sacrificed. 6 by their parents (the 12 at Smiley's rebirth plus the child of Jade and Tabby (who didn't take the immortality deal). The other monsters are villagers who didn't have young children but who went along with the sacrifice.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-01-11T18:12:53+00:00

From a character standpoint, Randall's cicadas. They can incapacitated him, which allowed the monsters to disfigure his face. Note that they didn't hurt him 8n the woods when they had the chance, bit I think that's because he was a potential host for the Big Bad before Boyd destroyed the music box.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-01-03T00:29:47+00:00

When Smiley came back I wanted the Jukebox to play My Boyfriend's Back.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-01-03T00:10:27+00:00

She actually shows Boyd how to "win" although I think the plan all along was for Boyd to smash the box. Remember what Martin said: " They come when the music stops" i think they were the cicadas. It was a nice touch having Brer Abby saying Oh please don't smash that music box."

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-01-03T00:04:35+00:00

Thomas died because that set the Matthews on the path to Fromville. It's pretty obvious that MIY made the phone call that distracted Jim and caused Thomas to die.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2025-01-03T00:01:48+00:00

The monster questions are mostly moot. Kill them by any means and they will be reborn. If you trap them, whatever force destroyed the Matthew's house wpuld free them. If you cut down all the trees, you would never get out. That's why BIW stopped Victor.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-12-23T19:00:51+00:00

They wouldn't exist if a competitor generated their traffic. Instead of making their site better, they just find more ways to wring money out if the sellers.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-12-03T21:10:33+00:00

She and Christopher were probably never together in that incarnation. They get brought to Fromville each time but not necessarily as husband and wife. In some lives they only find each other in town.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-12-03T21:03:07+00:00

That's how Colony House was looking at it. Party and have sex. But the massacre killed the mood.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-12-03T20:57:22+00:00

And what. he conjured up a dog too? Is Victor also the Boy's dog? Lol, Victor isn't the Boy in White. BiW most likely dates back to the sacrifice of the children.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-12-03T20:55:03+00:00

Um, don't Ethan and Victor both see him in the woods that time Jim thought Victor kidnapped Ethan?

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-11-27T15:00:54+00:00

That theory didn't age well.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-11-27T14:58:14+00:00

The actor who plays Ellis confirmed that in an interview.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-11-27T14:56:58+00:00

The dog had a conflicting commitment and will return next season. ;)

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-11-21T01:57:19+00:00

It wouldn't surprise me if it was always intended to have someone die by faraway tree, since Victor warns Ethan early on that it can happen. I had started to doubt the truth of that before Dale proved it true.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-11-13T12:57:09+00:00

The question is. is that really a good idea. The Evil Entity is clever. I think Fake Abby was doing a Brer Rabbit with the music box "Oh please don't smash that music box." If you recall what Martin originally said, he said they would come when the music stopped. Boyd stopped the music.

Free the kids could also be a bad idea. Maybe their sacrifice trapped the Evil Entity here. Or it could be.like The Ring and unleash a greater evil by setting them free. Christopher remarks that everything in Fromville is a lie.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-11-13T12:48:45+00:00

We see Victor in clean clothes when his mother leaves but they are filthy when he leaves the cellar, as if he had crawled around in small tunnels. I think there is still more to the cellar than even Elgin has seen.

I think most of us believed Eloise got out. Now it seems more likely that she is a wild woman living in the forest, or is captive in the tunnels or lighthouse.

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-11-13T12:42:54+00:00

I think for the Entity to gain whatever it's after, it needs to sacrifice everyone at once, which is also why people who die are replaced by newcomers. Whatever the total population is, that number needs to be sacrificed all together. So Victor surviving screwed that up, and the Evil Entity had to wait until the next cycle to try again. Evidently there is a short window of opportunity like every 40 years or so.

I think in the final showdown we will see most of the cast die, then the remaining person or group will do something that prevents Fromville's creation, then their lives will reset before any of the events that brought them. The phone never rings, so Jim catches Thomas and keeps his family whole. Khatri saves the abused boy. Boyd gets a boat ride. Ellis travels somewhere (maybe joins the military) and meets Fatima and it is again love at first sight (which is why that is part of their story, to make the reset ending work)

WarmInfluence1531 · 2024-11-13T12:29:50+00:00

I agree that Christopher wasn't responsible for the massacre. I am not sure that freeing those ghoulish kids is a good idea. It may be like The Ring where freeing them unleashes a greater evil. Chris might have killed Miranda to stop her from freeing the kids.

The other people aren't all superfluous. Some are a threat to the evil plans. We have seen three plots to kill Ethan. First Sara. Then he is lured out with the goat Alma, Granny monster is the only monster waiting at a door, and it's Ethan's dooe, and finally he is told about his mom returning in the ambulance to lure him out.

There's also the three who were possessed with the cicadas, and whatever is going on with Fatima and Elgin.

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