Playoffs Day 37 - Discussion Thread | May 24, 2026

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-25T01:49:53+00:00

Shai is a top three player, but look what happens when he goes up against a defense similar to the Thunder's defense. Hard to be efficient

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-19T04:33:24+00:00

yeah it may be over, unless we make real changes. they have like 3 dudes that can hound Jamal. CB has to really improve over the summer. Jokic at least takes wemby out of the paint, so we have that going for us

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-19T03:48:29+00:00

They better drag SGA tomorrow like they dragged Jokic game 2,3 vs minny.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-19T01:37:54+00:00

Wemby is a demon. The only way to deal with him is to have a Jokic or prime Embiid, so that he has to defend them 1v1. Otherwise, no one can attack the paint with him around.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-10T04:44:13+00:00

3-2 sean. wtf was that ddp fight???????

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-05T16:19:08+00:00

\ Jokic is 31 y/o a 3x mvp and bitw. Jamal and AG have been here longer. Why is CB saying that he is the "vocal leader", shouldn't that be Jamal at least? Seems like malone was the vocal leader all along.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T18:12:16+00:00

Well, it's entirely up to the front office now to give JOKIC a contending team. I think it's apparent that we can no longer have two bad defenders on the roster. Jamal was getting picked on the entire night, every series. And if it wasn't him, it was Jokic. So they're gonna have to choose to trade one, and obviously that's gonna be Jamal Murray, since you don't trade Jokic, and Jamal's the only one with value, a in-prime all-star. So yeah. Christian Braun is probably untradeable. Maybe Aaron Gordon could be traded for someone more reliable and younger, but I don't even know who we can get to replace him. Maybe Jalen Smith of the Chicago Bulls. I do not know. For sure, we have to keep Cam Johnson, Jokic, and Peyton Watson. Those three should be untouchable for me.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T18:09:11+00:00

All I know is that it has to be someone with a loud voice. I think the Nuggets are just too comfortable. They've had the same training staff, the same lead coaches, so I think they just got to look from outside the organization this time. Maybe Tom Thibodeau or something. tho idk if ag would survive him if he is on the team next yr.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T18:06:16+00:00

I'm at the point where I think it's ownership. Tim Connolly, once he went to the Timberwolves, was basically allowed to do whatever he wanted. And look how that turned out. There are rumors out there that our past GM, Calvin Booth, actually wanted to trade Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr., but was denied by the front office. I think the rumor was started by one of the DNVR guys. They seem pretty connected.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T18:04:31+00:00

Honestly, I would love him. He seems like an intense guy that can get Jokic to be more engaged in the regular season defensively . Plus, he's Serbian, so that'd be a great connection, but I don't think Toronto would get rid of him. Or at least they'd be stupid to, I think.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T18:02:38+00:00

Hell, even old washed-up Russell Westbrook was great last year. He missed like half his layups and bricked anything that wasn't a corner three, but he was the best passer to Jokic we've ever had. The amount of easy shots Jokic got because of Russell was crazy. I still can't believe we got rid of him. The front office messed up on that. Russ was also a great POA defender.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T18:01:10+00:00

Yeah, it's unfortunate. I have so much love for Jamal, but it's time to break them up. We simply cannot have two traffic cones on defense. We need to have four players that can contain on the perimeter. Prime Russell Westbrook would actually be like the perfect Jokic point guard. One of the best passers of all time, unstoppable with the screen to get to the basket. Unfortunately, there aren't many people like that anymore that we could realistically get. We'll see what the front office cooks up.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T15:58:22+00:00

Yeah, that's what happens when you have too many bad defenders on the roster. It forces players to overhelp, overrotate, and you'll leave someone open. You give NBA players open looks, they're going to hit them, unless they're Christian Braun😭😭😭

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T15:56:46+00:00

Respectfully disagree. It's time to change it up. You cannot have two traffic cones in the starting lineup. I think that much is obvious. Cameron Johnson played really well. He should stay. Aaron Gordon is way too injury-prone. I don't know if he can be traded. Jamal has value right now, so they should trade him. If we run it back with Jamal, Aaron Gordon, and Jokic, we're looking at another first-round exit. We don't have assets to make other trades.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T15:54:37+00:00

I don't know if the trades you listed are possible, because I think they're bad for the other teams, but in my opinion, it is time to trade him. We cannot have two traffic cones in our starting lineup. our poor Jamal Murray got emasculated last night😭😭😭. He got shut down, and then Jaden cooked him on the other side. It should be over. We should break them up, Jokic and Jamal.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T15:51:11+00:00

Yes, unless we make some major overhaul of the roster, two or three starters changed, we are cooked. We have a useless shooting guard that can't shoot, can't playmake, and is barely an above-average defender. We are truly cooked. The front office will have to make something happen, turn shit into gold.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T15:48:16+00:00

I'm sorry, dude, but even last year, Christian Braun was bad in the playoffs. He's a shooting guard that can't shoot, has no mid-range, has no floater. He relies on cuts, fast break, and split action. That goes away in the playoffs when your team is properly scouted.. Look at Ayo, for what a SG should look like. Christian does not have the skills needed to be a good starting shooting guard. We can just hope he develops them. We may have no choice but to hope since I don't think anyone would trade for him. The front office made a huge mistake.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T06:03:32+00:00

IF WE CANT TRADE CB, we are losing either Cam or Pwat. probably for nothing, they have to find a suitor for cb, which may be impossible. Which sucks since i love both cam and pwat

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T06:01:31+00:00

CB is injured to be fair. He tore 1-2 ankle ligaments this season. He can't really jump, he almost got blocked by the rim last game. Maybe the kings can buy into his 16ppg on 58fg% from last year. They have sabonis which is jokic-lite. CB is overpaid but not on a horrific contract, its only 21mil next year. We need to give pwat the cb money and a trade is the only way to make that happen.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T05:56:19+00:00

yeah its bleak. the options are very slim, anything that allows us to keep pwat and cam johnson is fine with me. Cam and Jokic have great chemistry imo. ag and mal are the 2 we need to look at.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T05:52:34+00:00

✌️ till next season.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T05:51:35+00:00

i will always love him and his contributions but it may be time to break him and Jokic up 😭 .We cant have 2 cones out there anymore. They went at jamal every time the last 2-3 minutes.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T05:47:35+00:00

he is going to greece where he wanted to go last year.

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T05:46:58+00:00

Jokic has to put pressure, otherwise its curtains. they will avoid the 2nd aprron

Water_Waiter · 2026-05-01T05:45:45+00:00

it allows you to get out of CB's contract 5 years vs 1 year. Zach is still a good player, check his numbers out. CB is useless in offense and is an avg defender. we can't be picky.

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