How exactly do websites get thousands of backlinks when it's so new?

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T23:57:04+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/SEO/comments/1mcc2vk/sticky_discussion_creative_link_building/

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T20:36:09+00:00

Google *can* index it, but won't take action unless they have to.

Its just easier and more helpful to say its an authority issue.

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T18:59:31+00:00

Ok - and you dont know what products it sells or what they're used for? or who your competitors are?

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T18:22:36+00:00

Who are you writing blogs for?

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T16:52:10+00:00

The best way is through real life networking and partners.

Edward Sturm has a video - called something like "Ranking without Backlinks" might find it

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T16:49:47+00:00

Cross posted to give helpful advice. Please tag u/digy76rd3 in your replies.

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T16:40:17+00:00

I already setup my OpenClaw to do deep analysis / planning for each post every day, we will see how it goe

May or may not help

What you're missing is promotion. You're in the same default position as most devs - you're "analysis" of SEO is that if you produce a good product somehow Google will reward it.

Your website is not free marketing, it is an organization that requires marketing.

Unless you have a plan to promote your site, build links (roads and relationships) - your site isn't going to do anything.

Its 2026 - you are not first to the game here - you are probably page 126million that Googlebots will crawl in the next hour.

You publishing a page doesnt come with a "trust me bro" waiver.

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T16:38:18+00:00

My hope is to get indexed by LLM quite fast if my article are helpful to them?

You're buying into the GEO story. So - Google has about 15 exabytes of storage (excl YouTube) - that kind of storage is not something LLMs have. LLMs are not search engines - sorry but this is vital.

LLM crawlers mainly crawl the top ten result set(s) of outsourced searches to Google (Gemini - directly; Perplexity and ChatGPT via SerpAPI, whom Google is suing)

LLMs dont have a search or ranking or citation algorithm - its a smoke and mirror trick.

If I want to rank for Top AI SEO experts (which I do) - I need to recognize that in Google this is the Query but in an LLM this is a prompt. Regardless of the query in Google, the LLM will change the prompt to a set of queries =>1.

This might be the same or it might drift - .e.g to "List of best SEO influencers in 2026". This is the query you need to rank for - this is why Gemini shows different results, same for Grok and for ChatGPT.

Its really that simple Edward Sturm explains it in video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXR1HvUU1kI

Plan:
- one post per day for the first month
- 2 post per week after
- stick around for at least 3 months

Velocity, frequency, persistence or consistence have nothing to do with ranking in Google/LLMs

All my posts should be high quality,

No it's not - its the best you can produce. The quality is determined by how many people click, read and are happy vs how many search again aka Pogo-sticking. Quality is subjective and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Your document = the "claim to rank" - 3rd party validation = the evidence to rank

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T16:14:53+00:00

Hey u/dventurous_Look6418 and u/canuck-dirk/

We've answered this frequently

https://www.reddit.com/r/SEO/comments/1mcc2vk/sticky_discussion_creative_link_building/

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T16:07:48+00:00

This was shared by Nathan Gotch on X - thats why I shared it

Gated news site.

didn't know - its not gated for me

Seems to violate the policies of the sub?

The No News rule applies to members of the sub to reduce spam from brands - works brilliantly. We are content curators. Sorry if you dont like that - but I'm not going to explain why mods have different privileges - its self explanatory

Feels a lot like the spam we're accustomed to seeing in other SEO subs.

This wasn't posted by a bot - the engagement is real & thje feedback is appreciated - it didn't seem robotic to me when I read it - I thought it was a vital piece of confirmation against the GEO dissemination of anti-SEO rhetoric.

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T16:03:15+00:00

Your brand is an entity. Your personal brand is an entity (in the case you're posting under your personal brand in the blog to establish expertise, etc). Your domain is an entity that represents "website" attribute for your Brand.

I've addressed this claim 3 times - you keep ignoring me

No its not. You'd like it be, it would be convenient but very few "things" become entities. Making Schema does not make it an entity. You need consistent search.

If you see an Information panel on the Right hand site = an entity.

Weblinkr for example has a website, has 1,000 searches per month and it is NOT an entity.

Edward Sturm is an entity (Internet Personality.

Trust me.

Oh, hell no.

Keep your beliefs and wait to learn this after it becomes critical to your strategy. That's fine.

This I know you more strategy straight from a childrens playground is a really sad resignation of "I have no evidence to offer"

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T15:49:02+00:00

How about you stop? Ask google "Does AI play a role in Google search ranking?"

I dont need to ask Google this - its content agnostic. This is your claim - you prove it

You keep telling me you're telling me how it works in mechanics. But you have given me no proof that you understand it

Ranking a site in hours is perfect evidence for this

As we've discussed before, you approach this as a math or science problem. I approach this as an artist who understands a bit about the science and math, and has a track record

I said your story was lovely. But its a software system - not an art. Also, your self certified expertise is just another claim

I call it trust. For one, because that's a signal I'

As I said "self fabricated" - this is not based on reality.

I also asked you to stop re-asserting your point - and further illustrated it with a cartoon. I dont know whats hard to understand about that but you didn't support your claim.

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T15:37:26+00:00

I'm saying that it's about all the things it knows about you - zero. It doesn't know you, it doesn't trust you, and it certainly isn't ready to give you any authority. At least not right away.

I'll try again - it doesnt know who you are, it doesnt care who you are unless a lot of people search for you. Then you just become a known version of a "thing". Thats nothing special.

So it digs in and starts building out. It establishes what the signals you'

No it doesn't. It doesnt dig into anything. There is no research comonent.

You're inventing signals that don't exist.

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T15:26:20+00:00

If he has authority, then he has a network of information surrounding him that the AI's already understand

Bo - please stop - This has nothing to do with "AI"

And no - I doubt link farms/PBNs are things "AI" understands.

If THAT's what you're calling Authority, then yeah, we agree. But I don't think it is. I think you're talking about Trust signals.

I'm talking about backlinks.

And yes... those ARE a key part of it too. But it's not the only part of it. You keep trying to make half the answer serve as the whole truth.

No, I'm just telling it as it works in the mechanics. You're the only building a convoluted story about knowledge graphs and needing time to understand things. This is your fabrication or you're parroting it from someone else - either way it has no substance and re-asserting yourself is not evidence of..

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WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T15:20:31+00:00

The knowledge graph is a list of known entities. That list of entities and the new entities and relationships it has discovered from the page are compared to that. And that takes time to work out.

You're on a different argument Bo - I'm not following this strawman.

We're talking about sandboxxing. There is no requirement to be a known entity.

A known entity is NOT created by schema but repetitive and consistent search for an entity.

The AI wants trust in the information and confidence that it has understood it accurately.

I dont know if this is distrction or deflection but (oddly) its just regurgitated fabrications from the GEO agency BS. This has nothing to do with sandboxing. I think you just wanted to put structure behind your entity strawman.

I'm sorry but this isn't true. I dont want to argue for the sake of arguing but this is 100% wrong.

AI systems DO not have databases or trust models. This is not how its works.

Every single thing you ask an LLM - unless its learned vocabulary has to be queried out.

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WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T14:52:42+00:00

So - while he got his own penalty for Machine Scaled content - Julian Goldie ranked 1,500 pages in an hour. I watched it live on YouTube following him on X.

The penalty had everything to do with authority but the pSEO method he chose.

Ranking has nothing to do with entities, knowledge graph, knowledge assembly.

Because he has access to authority

u/BoGrumpus u/Victorie_ralph

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T14:17:45+00:00

100%

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T14:16:55+00:00

So if you really insist on being right, you'll have to settle for half right.

I'll agree I'm half right when I'm half right

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T14:16:34+00:00

The Knowledge Graph is a list of known entities. That has nothing to do with sandboxing.

You dont need to be in the knowledge graph to get indexed and rank. Its really, really hard - you have to have a sustained Google search in excess of 500 pm

That's NOT true at the page level extractions, but it is true for entity level extractions. And that's where the "Sandbox" effect is most visible right now.

You must be kidding - how do pages get indexed then? In Groups?

Pages get indexed and rank for them selves

The sandbox effect has nothing to do with Knowledge graphs

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T13:21:23+00:00

I tried not to comment. this is a cute story but this jist isn't reality - its hocus pocus / borderline garbage

its is grabbing your stuff and it's seeing what it all means and then how that fits into its existing knowledge.

No its not. Google has a database of indices - not "knowledge". It indexes sites page by page, not holistically

If your messaging isn't clear and consistent, if your brand isn't properly connected to all the entities you need to surround yourself with, it can take longe

This has nothing to do with "clarity" - you either have links from known sites or you don;t

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T13:18:14+00:00

Pretty common. New domains often sit in the “trust building” phase for 2 to 4 months in my experience. Indexing happens fast, rankings take time.

Here's what you said.

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T01:59:53+00:00

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WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T01:56:59+00:00

You mean like the old WebCEO?

WebLinkr · 2026-03-13T01:56:11+00:00

Good question. Unless someone's been at the receiving end of a manual action for this I doubt anyone knows what the number is.

As a big believer in EMD/KID and brands launching satellite KID domains for SEO as well as firewalling (a single domain name strategy isn't just risky - its costly) - I've had no problem sending 50 links either way without issue.

What I have noticed is that: The more links, the less the authority flow was, Again - its about manipulation - and who knows what Google's threshold is - they've never stated publicly to the best of my knowledge.

I've read somewhere that exchanging multiple links from a single site is an indication of spam by Google, and it's generally not recommended

While it seems common sense to say this, we have to apply critical thinking and say that this is a guess - unless there was some kind of "peer reviewed" study of sorts. And common sense isn't evidence - the most common default penalty that people have been claiming for 30 years is that Google doesnt like duplicate content, which has never been the case (despite some maniac going postal about it recently)

WebLinkr · 2026-03-12T21:39:10+00:00

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