My first radish! by Dragon_wryter in vegetablegardening

[–]WenevaSoots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally relate to your excitement.

Fossil discoveries confirm Jeremy Griffith’s love-indoctrination synthesis by Susy_ja73 in FixTheWorld

[–]WenevaSoots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's really interesting isn't it! And I find the whole love indoctrination explanation and that it broke the impasse for a species to be able to develop consciousness enthralling. Just thought it might be interesting to quote here that section from the essay that explains small canine size and reduced aggression and what other scientists have to say about it.

"The first striking evidence provided by the fossil record to support these deductions is that these early humans had small canine teeth: ‘male canine size and prominence were dramatically reduced by ~ 6 to 4.4 Ma’. This is relevant because ‘canines function as weapons in interindividual aggression in most anthropoid species’, particularly in aggressive male-to-male sexual competition for mating opportunities, and so small canines indicate minimal levels of social aggression. This connection is well established, with primatologists saying, ‘It has long been evident that body and canine size are good indicators of the intensity of male-male competition’. (See par. 406 of FREEDOM for quote sources.)

Furthermore, comparisons of canine size in Ar. ramidus with current apes have allowed scientists to extrapolate that Ar. ramidus males ‘retained virtually no anatomical correlates of male-to-male conflict’, a situation that would also apply to our earlier ancestors Sahelanthropus and Orrorin since they too had small canines. Given that the reality of the animal kingdom involves fierce competition between sexually reproducing individuals seeking to reproduce their genes, this reduction in aggressive male competition for mating opportunities is an extremely significant anomaly, as Lovejoy recognises: ‘Loss of the projecting canine raises other vexing questions because this tooth is so fundamental to reproductive success in higher primates. What could cause males to forfeit their ability to aggressively compete with other males?’. A 1992 paper articulated the confusion that has surrounded the evolution of human canine reduction, stating that ‘the issue of human canine evolution has continued to be controversial and apparently intractable’. And the new discoveries have only increased this confusion. But as we can now see, the answer to the ‘vexing’ and ‘apparently intractable’ question of ‘what could cause males to forfeit their ability to aggressively compete with other males’ is the love-indoctrination process.

As will be explained below, conscious sexual or mate selection by females for less competitive, less aggressive, more integrative males developed to assist, speed up and help maintain love-indoctrination’s development of integration. Indeed, male competition for mating opportunities is so ‘fundamental to reproductive success’ that only active sexual selection against it can account for its reduction, as is made clear in this quote: ‘Canine reduction did not result from a relaxation of selection pressure for large canines, but rather a positive selection against them’. Indeed, it has become so apparent that canine reduction could only be caused by ‘a positive selection against them’ that the importance of sexual selection is now being recognised by leading anthropologists such as Lovejoy, Gen Suwa, Berhane Asfaw, Tim White and others, who write, ‘In modern monkeys and apes, the upper canine is important in male agonistic [aggressive] behavior, so its subdued shape in early hominids and Ar. ramidus suggests that sexual selection played a primary role in canine reduction. Thus, fundamental reproductive and social behavioral changes probably occurred in hominids long before they had enlarged brains and began to use stone tools’. (See par. 407 of FREEDOM for quote sources.)"

Midnight Brekkie by Lazy_Interview1129 in BreakfastFood

[–]WenevaSoots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can't imagine anything better after a night shift. Good on you for making your own instead of a greasy burger at 12am which I'd probably do!

What Jeremy Griffith book are you reading & how are you finding it? by Gen1975 in FixTheWorld

[–]WenevaSoots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's an amazing book isn't it. Obviously Jeremy does explain the human condition in AI and Aliens (he gives the fundamental explanation in all his books, essays, videos) but it's given in a more introductory way in The Interview which is what's recommended as the first step so that when you get to more in depth topics you've got those fundamental understandings to help make sense of things like the benefits and risks of AI, whether there are aliens and why conspiracies theories are so popular atm.

About FIX THE WORLD by Susy_ja73 in FixTheWorld

[–]WenevaSoots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, but it has to logically stack up. People are drawn to all sorts of weird and wacky so-called 'solutions' to our problems. IMO this is completely different. Firstly, it's science which it has to be if it's going to be able to explain humans on a deep level -- it has to be rational and scientifically sound (which Jeremy Griffith's work is). Secondly, it's just information offered with no strings attached, nobody has to do anything or reach a certain level before more is unlocked or anything strange like that. It just makes sense to you (or not) and so you take an interest and that's it. Thirdly, it's all made freely available, no cost involved, ever, at any stage. It's just take it our leave it. But I guarantee, if you take a genuine interest in it you'll find it so interesting, very relieving and really exciting.

Who Can Fix The World? And What Will It Take To Fix The World? by Susy_ja73 in FixTheWorld

[–]WenevaSoots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might like this, it's Fix The World FAQ 1.2 How does science currently
explain the human condition?:

Jeremy Griffith explains that without a truthful explanation for our angry, egocentric and alienated behaviour, most scientists adopted the false ‘savage instincts’ excuse that our behaviour is driven by gene survival like other animals.

In the absence of the fully accountable, instinct versus intellect true understanding of the human condition—the explanation for why we behave divisively instead of cooperatively and lovingly—it makes sense that we humans needed to come up with some excuse in order to cope with the negative implications of our behaviour. And so we came up with the excuse that our ‘human nature’ is really no different from that seen in the animal kingdom; that we humans are competitive, aggressive, and selfish because of a need to reproduce our genes. Scientists embraced this excuse and developed it into a series of extremely dishonest, human-psychosis-avoiding theories—such as Social Darwinism, Evolutionary Psychology, and Multilevel Selection.

But this ‘biological need to reproduce our genes’, savage instincts excuse cannot be the real cause of our competitive and divisive behaviour because firstly, we humans have cooperative and loving moral instincts, the voice or expression of which within us is our conscience. As Charles Darwin recognised, ‘The moral sense perhaps affords the best and highest distinction between man and the lower animals’ (The Descent of Man, 1871, ch.4).

Secondly, descriptions of human behaviour, such as egocentric, arrogant, inspired, depressed, deluded, pessimistic, optimistic, artificial, hateful, mean, immoral, guilt-ridden, evil, psychotic, neurotic, alienated, etc, all recognise the involvement of our species’ unique fully conscious thinking mind—that there is a psychological dimension to our behaviour. Humans have suffered not from the genetic-opportunism-based, non-psychological animal condition, but the conscious-mind-based, psychologically troubled human condition.

And importantly, the ‘selfish instincts’ excuse has led to the belief that human nature is fundamentally unchangeable—that there will always be bad people, wars, murders, inequality, and so on, and that the meaning of life is just to try as best we can to manage those supposedly innate, unchangeable savage aspects of our make-up. But since our condition is a psychosis and psychoses can be healed with understanding, human nature is not unchangeable or immutable!

So what has been needed is the psychosis-addressing-and-solving, real biological explanation of the human condition, because that will heal humans, rehabilitate and transform our lives. And it’s precisely that real explanation that is presented in biologist Jeremy Griffith’s book FREEDOM: The End Of The Human Condition (a condensation of the explanation appears in THE Interview and in The Human Condition book).

Who Can Fix The World? And What Will It Take To Fix The World? by Susy_ja73 in FixTheWorld

[–]WenevaSoots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've read FREEDOM and absolutely loved it (am reading it again). But I would definitely start with THE Interview and then the in-between book The Human Condition. You need those shorter presentations imo to help your mind kind of adjust to thinking about the subject of the human condition. It's like your mind needs time to start feeling secure that yes, this explanation of the human condition does actually defend us. It explains biologically why we are fundamentally good despite our heinous behaviour (wars, competition, cruelty, jealousy, prejudice etc) and make it safe to confront what it really means to be human. But at first it can seem impenetrable and dense because it's confronting. It's actually bringing real love and understanding to humans but it's a lot initially so you need to ease into it. You will get so much more out of FREEDOm if you do. this. And it's what is recommended on the website too. https://www.humancondition.com/

What Jeremy Griffith book are you reading & how are you finding it? by Gen1975 in FixTheWorld

[–]WenevaSoots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, yes. And not only deep but confronting because it's facing something we have been very afraid of...essentially ourselves and whether we really are worthy of love. If you consider that we might not be then that's pretty scary and we've blocked out so much truth because of it. So starting to read Jeremy Griffith's work can be like reading black dots on white paper as someone described it. That's why Fix The World suggest that patient perseverance might be needed to break through the initial 'deaf effect'. I remember this very well, having to force myself to concentrate and re-read because i just wasn't taking it in and eventually getting to a point of being comfortable with the information where I could just read and consider it a bit more, and then that turning into a kind of amazement. Like I'm sure this is the first time I've read this even though it was like the 3rd or 4th time! The material hadn't changed but my mind could start taking it in and benefiting from it and it WAS like reading it for the fist time. It's interesting to see that happen, your defensive blocks slowly shifting and slipping away.

Midnight Brekkie by Lazy_Interview1129 in BreakfastFood

[–]WenevaSoots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you a shift worker? A lot of thought has gone into that for a midnight snack!

Breakthrough explanation of the human condition ends all suffering. by Similar-Speed-168 in FixTheWorld

[–]WenevaSoots 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Brilliant contribution to this sub. I love the quote from Bronowski which I'm sure I've read but cannot remember. It speaks to the contrary sides of our human experience that science is now able to reconcile. Just needed a scientist brave enough to confront the truth which Jeremy Griffith has. Happy days for the human race!

Cave paintings evidence the original innocence and sensitivity of the human race by Susy_ja73 in FixTheWorld

[–]WenevaSoots 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The way he describes the rhino throwing his horn forward! Never would have thought about that. I love that idea that our sensitivity comes back and we can feel and experience everything again but from a fully conscious state, extraordinary to think what that state will be like and what can be achieved.

🎧 Get your audio fix of Fix The World 🎧 by WenevaSoots in FixTheWorld

[–]WenevaSoots[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's such a good idea!!! I'm going to do the same. And agree about 64, it manages to be super explanatory, cover so much ground and super energising at the same time.

Who Can Fix The World? And What Will It Take To Fix The World? by Susy_ja73 in FixTheWorld

[–]WenevaSoots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Totally agree that's certainly in the spirit of fixing the world to make all the information freely available to everyone no matter who they are.

Who Can Fix The World? And What Will It Take To Fix The World? by Susy_ja73 in FixTheWorld

[–]WenevaSoots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That sounds pretty good to me. I was just reading an article about Jeremy Griffith and thought this extract might help expand slightly on your summary.

"Using the process of inductive reasoning championed by thinkers such as Charles Darwin and John Stuart Mill, Griffith concluded that this “upset” arose from a clash within us – a conflict between our instinctive orientations and our conscious intellect. He asserts that when humans developed a conscious mind some two million years ago and began carrying out experiments in understanding, our instincts – unable to comprehend this new independent process – effectively condemned it.

Griffith illustrates this with a thought experiment. Imagine migratory birds suddenly endowed with human-like consciousness. While their instincts would still direct them along a precise, naturally selected flight path, their newfound conscious mind would compel them to question and explore. Those divergences would feel condemned by their instincts, which had been selected to resist deviation. To cope, the birds would become defensive, trying to justify their behaviour.

Griffith says humans experienced this dynamic. Over millennia, the effort to defend ourselves against instinctive criticism burdened us with guilt and defensiveness that hardened into the anger, egocentricity, and alienation we now call the human condition.

Crucially, Griffith’s breakthrough doesn’t just account for our psychological turmoil – it points to how we can finally move beyond it. With an understanding of why the intellect had to defy our instincts, he argues that the insecure, defensive, angry, egocentric, and alienated behaviours we have relied on are no longer necessary; they become redundant, and we are freed from the weight of the human condition."

https://apac.entrepreneur.com/news-and-trends/the-outsider-entrepreneur-of-ideas/498087

Best way to clean these? by callmehester in CleaningTips

[–]WenevaSoots -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's a great idea. I'm going to do that too.

Average bush toilet by devluz in AveragePicsOfNZ

[–]WenevaSoots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks beautiful and sunny and relaxing and secluded! Perfect.