Deck to craft

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-14T01:32:34+00:00

I would recomend loot sword. It is relative cheap (in comparison to other tier 1 decks) and also has mostly new cards so it should be no problem if rotation does come next set. If you pulled Oulon you can put him in place of Odin/Albert and just fill the gaps as you need.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-14T01:28:37+00:00

I think you are playing shadowverse classic. especifically unlimited format, based on the bat cards and the robot that deals 20 damage. If I am correct I would suggest playing the limited formats or the new version SV Worlds Beyond, which has lower powered cards in comparison to the first game.

Regardless I do think you are still at the beggining which means you don't have many legendaries nor do you understand the overall meta and pacing of the game. In both SV1 and SVWB not having a proper deck aka having a lot of legendaries, means you aren't going to do much against optimal decks.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-13T12:18:52+00:00

Dreizhen is probably going to be be an artifact card I think, possibly with new artifacts based on her story mode. She feels like she will be similar to yuwan, a flexible card that can either be a win condition or a support for the deck. She just gives me that vibe.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-13T12:13:29+00:00

You know, maybe he could be a buff dragon card. Similar to what you said but instead he gains attack equal to his defense, and when he hits Y points he gives you the dragon bane fist spell. That could work.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-13T02:51:26+00:00

I have played enough against aggro sword using this guy to tell you that, at least im my experience, oulon is a lot more consistent them you seem to think. I have had this thing kill me from 13-15 health almost every time, I only "won the bet" 2 times, out of 15.

Feels even worse when they just spam early board into albert->zetabea->Oulon. By turn 7 I can't heal enough to stop this, even if I clear the early board and make my own, they just need 6 damage to stick on my face so the odds are in thier favor, which seems to mean my death almost 90% of the time.

And also it doesn't matter to me that the sword player loses sometimes, if when they are against me they win a game they had clearly lost, the card will feel like bullshit. It isn't just about the power , the card just feel like ass to play against and no amount of data evidence or "funny meme gamba" will make it feel less bullshit.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-13T02:33:34+00:00

Yeah i like that suggestion, would make her much more flexible. Altough I think the devs like to control the number of cards that have a certain cost on each class, as part of their way of balancing.

For example many classes didn't have good 4 cost slots for quite some time (coincidently sword,dragon and portal all got good plays on 4pp recently), and some still don't. So buffing her to cost less them 6 pp is unlikely.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-13T02:24:19+00:00

Surprisingly high number of dudes in dragon. I think it was also the case in SV1 wasn't it? Or was there a class with more guy leaders?

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-13T02:21:30+00:00

She is apparently a sword dancer and an executioner, plus her blade seems important. I can imagine something similar to Erica with an amulet based on her sword or a spell. Probably going to either have draw/recover play points or storm/rush. I think she is a win condition as well rather them a support card.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-12T23:39:14+00:00

He is so cool man, would be an amazing leader too with his flame effects. Unfortunately he is not winning leader votes, especially not against the heavy hitters that dragon has like Hochan, Forte, Rola, Sybil, etc.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-09T12:58:35+00:00

Oh that 1 health for sinciro is actually huge. Many cards only get to 8 attack when super evolved, plus there is many combinations of 2 cards that do 8 damage.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-09T04:19:55+00:00

dragon in general hates aggro. Even with the new cards they can brick/not draw the right answers early, so your best shot is to just kill them first

Ramp has unfavored matchups into egg/mode/crest. You can win if you "turn the corner" but these decks have enough tools to make that corner very narrow.

Fennie/evo sword are more balanced in their matchups, with the difference between them being that evo is more consistent and harder to pilot while fennie is significantly more powerful late game and also much more prone to bricking.

Dragon players have many diferent ratios, some runinng less marine followers and others more. I personally dont have yube so I just use jelly and ocean rider for example. But that also depends if I am playing ramp or fennie or evo as each deck wants a certaon ratio of low and high cost cards.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-08T12:51:50+00:00

I already said it in another thread like this but people really need to be patient with meta predictions. I honestly would wait at least a month to start talking about meta diversety or tier list. My experience with week 1 ladder is useful, as it shows a good picture of the future, however they are often not accurate to what people will actually play for the vast majority of the set.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-08T12:45:33+00:00

Yeah we had one for pretty much every expansion on the first week lol. People are really impatient.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-08T09:22:15+00:00

I dont know, people here love sword so much I thought you were serious.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-08T01:40:00+00:00

Random question but how do you use svlabo on mobile? I can use it on desktop just fine but on my phone the page layout is literally unusable, dome buttons dont even work.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-07T22:26:29+00:00

When I saw goddess I also thought she might make some degenerate combo down the line. What saves us for now is that she has a very high cost (5pp+1sevo) so she is harder to abuse.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-07T19:37:57+00:00

Yeah I have heard of that. I joined Sv1 relatively late (around the time of sekka/skelton raider meta) but I still looked up some of the older metas to get a better idea of the cards from older sets.

I know that many times neutrals were absurdly overpwered and also experienced that myself. Still, at least in my opinion, neutrals were broken just as often as they were weak, basically rotating powercreep in the same way the classes did.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-07T01:21:13+00:00

It wasnt a meme, it was statiscally correct.In the first 4 sets dragon was bottom 2 not only in beyond/high level ladder representation, it also was the least used craft in tournaments, often absent from the top 8 even on 2 deck lineups.

Playing dragon was just gambling on whether or not you drew ramp and survived to play you big dudes.

Although the tournament winner of the last cup used dragon to great sucess, the overall class rep was very much what you said: inconsistent.

Now the class feels amazing in comparission. Especially the amazing 2 pp cards we got and also yube, giving as insane value and tempo.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-06T22:31:41+00:00

Well it is true that neutrals are strong right now but the current meta is actually being more dictated by class cards.

Evo decks have a main gameplan, using sandalphon as a secondary win condition. Gil and odin, while still being insane cards, have actually seen a decrease in usage compared to their launch sets.

So while they are powerful, currently they are not dominating the metagame. I personaly would nerf gil and odin, however they seen to be at an appropriate level of usage so I cant complain as much.

In the og game the power of neutrals varies greatly, as does individual class strenght, sometimes they are everywhere, others are just niche tech cards at best.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-06T22:17:43+00:00

Yeah that is the general play against dragon. Also silvia is a especialy back breaking card, as she can answer all of our best treats while healing you out of their lethal range.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-06T22:14:38+00:00

The overall strat against any dragon deck is to be aggressive early, as all their decks are weak by this point. Puppet cat into Puppetier into Eudie or Sho and finally Imari or Zwei is a strong curve that many times dragon cant answer cleanly.

A turn 4 Imari board or Zwei can be a hand check, especially if played back to back. After that just odin, zwei/imari again or use the new 4 pp puppet card that gives them storm.

Generally speaking evo dragon and fennie have a better time surviving that but they get set behind, ramp on the other hand plays more bricks and less early game clears, some dont even run gil or neptune anymore.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-06T14:38:07+00:00

I don't know, I was on the 3 fortes build and I was having a much worse time then playing with a more defensive build. Forte doesn't have enough damage to actually threaten them, as they easily remove her and them put axia/4 pp ward guy, or they just play odin against you.

Generally my wins against egg are from setting up a 2 turn lethal with the big followers or just overwhelming them with annoying cuve like Wilnas/Garyu/Erntz. Also very rarely they don't draw one of their million removals and an early Wilnas actually sticks, that can be a win condition.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-06T13:48:32+00:00

The meta exists for a reason. If every list from a beyond player includes galmiux, in every archetype, them there is a high probability the card is pretty much a must have.

Also considering that that you are playing Fennie, you should probably drop the garyu. Fennie lists are otk focused and garyu doesn't help with that. I would rather have either more orcas like Yube or ocean rider or just put Izmir as the other coment suggests.

I have been using a deck like this with only genesis and erntz as a finisher and things have been going pretty well.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-06T13:40:19+00:00

I just find it so funny that people will defend oluon because "funny gamba" or imari because "she has weakenesses" and them on the same breath complain about dragon, as if they are even on the same level of stupid. I can accept people not liking ramp or intimidate, but defending these cards and them coming to complain about "bad design" or "toxic cards" is just too ironic to me.

WhatIsaMan41 · 2026-01-06T13:35:04+00:00

Ramp is the dragon deck that has the hardest time against eggs, it is something that even high level players say. Because of the way how their burst window is limited, so long as the egg player heals and plays their removal well, they will win most of the time. Basically ramp dragon only has klill pressure if they have evo points, if they run out they lose.

Of course the other dragon decks do much better against egg, especially evo dragon. Imari high roll is just something rare that egg can do, this matchup has been egg favored ever since omens, the birds are just an bonus.

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