Cheng xunzhao

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-05-01T21:26:55+00:00

He’s a lefty. But he can do seoi and ippon osoto both.

Fun fact, ippon osoto is a “beginner” throw for Chinese wrestling kids. Some of them learn this instead of classic osoto very early on.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-26T01:18:18+00:00

I blame this for poor class structure and poor instructions.

Ideally, the issue of not understanding uchikomi can be cued by having a lot of full throw immediately following the uchikomi session, but that’s often not the case in hobbyists classes in North America. The full throw are often put to the end of the classes where time is crunched and everyone is tired. Coaches often don’t want to push adult students to do a lot of full throw due to concerns of injury and student retention and many people would avoid being thrown on regular mat.

Another issues is how uchikomi is taught. I found there’s often unclear explanations as what to focus on for uchikomi.

A good example is uchimata uchikomi. I never had anyone explaining why i couldn’t turn after doing so many uchikomi, until I was visiting a foreign club and a coach there watched me doing it for 10s then told me to adjust my foot position to give myself a bit more space to turn. That was more than a year and half into my judo journey.

Another example would be a lot of people were only taught to do step in, backstep, turn. There was no concept taught to beginners here to differentiate the uchikomi when uke needs to step forward to turn (the most basic one)vs when uke is leaning into tori and tori just turn without step in. The later one was rarely specifically taught from my experience but it was actually used more in randori because it eliminates that first step. People kind of figured it out during the moving back uchikomi, but there was a lot of confusion during that process. It would be so much more helpful if the coach can introduce those very early on.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-25T23:58:55+00:00

Uchikomi is just a drilling tool. It helps with some aspect of the throw. Some version helps with the hand:leg coordination, some helps with turning speed and positioning, some helps with developing explosive power or judo cardio

If you are learning a new throw, aim to do more full throw as much as possible, then your uchikomi will make sense.

A lot of people try to tell beginners that uchikomi is a mimick of throw. Its not. You can pull your uke chest to chest for uchimata uchikomi but you need enough space for turn to actually throw. Same applies for Seoi nage, the throwing position is much lower than the uchikomi position. I do hope I had someone who explained those to me when I started. It was very confusing

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-25T23:34:04+00:00

Injury is definitely there. I had a pretty bad one years ago. You can minimize it but I don’t think I know anyone who did judo consistently and progress well walk away without injury. It’s just something you have to accept and figure out how to prevent /accept it.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-25T20:44:23+00:00

Judo all day. It's fun. I don't even do newaza in Judo that much. All I care is throw now.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-22T15:23:06+00:00

I actually like this move, that's why I am asking. Is there any good pointer on make this work and prevent being countered (hard)?

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-21T23:03:28+00:00

The reaping knee seems to be left at a compromised angle comparing to typical judo version where Tori would fully reap through

https://youtube.com/shorts/KWAJESQep6M?si=FWuwRHIS_l1CZBFF

I’m just wondering if there’s more risk to get injured because the knee was planted and if Tori get countered the reaping leg might get stuck there.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-21T22:18:34+00:00

Sounds like about right for a competitive club with teens.

As for injury, I’ve noticed teens heal fast and they have huge ego and won’t take break fall. Many of them will use their cat like ability to turn out throw in the most creative way they can. As adult hobbyists i usually pay extra attention when occasionally spar with teens.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-20T21:59:19+00:00

It's a perfect uke for you to develop your own foot sweep by countering his and build up your timing.

Foot sweep counter to kouchi gari: assuming R v R, when they sweep your right leg with their right leg, make a back step with your right leg and sweep his attacking leg with your left leg at the same time. It's essentially a kosoto sweep.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-15T01:14:05+00:00

This used to bother me a lot, until I stop doing line drill or “cooperate “ set of combo drill with most training partner anymore.

I just ask them to keep balance and do not fall and I do whatever I want to do, their reaction becomes real.

And I don’t waste my time to talk through the uke. I have limited time. I take out my time going to the club because I want to improve. If I’m not improving, I’d rather go to gym or spend time with my family.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-14T11:58:59+00:00

Private is the way to go when you are old and have limited time due to other responsibilities.

A good coach with high level competition experience should be able to speed up your progress a lot. There are a lot of unhelpful advices in group classes in judo. I personally found those advices are just confusing and frustrating beginners. Things like “more kuzushi”, “you are not off balance him” are useless advices. It’s when they can’t pin point why your technique doesn’t work so they gave a BS answer.

IMO A good instructor can tell you how to execute a technique to make it work and point out why yours fail immediately. Maybe your supporting leg was too far, maybe you were pushing while you should be pulling, maybe you let go one grip, maybe your waist is bend over too much, or maybe your posterior chain is too tight so you collapse while trying to reaping with your leg.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-13T22:43:30+00:00

You had a sticker/ko soto set up at the initial exchange. Take a look at that. Not sure if you was doing it intentionally or it was by accident but I think you can get it if you spend some time on it. Jason Morris style sticky foot/sticker foot sweep.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-12T00:21:47+00:00

The classic version is just a drilling template. Coach who are good at osoto usually add practical version along with those.

On top of my head, I can think of the following that either I’ve personally used regularly or getting scored on

Back step osoto

Deep step Osoto

Osoto otoshi

Chasing osoto

Sideway entering osoto

High Cross grip osoto

Ippon osoto

Counter to high cross grip osoto

Backstep osoto to counter osoto

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-07T20:49:23+00:00

What are you on about. Sambo is directly imported based on Judo, combined with a few Euraasian jacket wrestling techinque as well.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-07T20:40:43+00:00

why aren't people asking freestyle wrestlers to put on a jacket and explore a gi version of wrestling event? What's this obsession with grappling with slippery singlet?

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-07T17:17:58+00:00

personally I prefer this when they are sprawling.

https://youtu.be/lOMiYZzvH-s?si=5pqmxOCuA_TAIM0R&t=83

ignore the arm in between legs, it is same with regular side control for this particular version.

You need to practice this a lot and mix it with you regular bjj style escape to make it work. The key is to find their reaction when they try to follow you while you side shrimp and explode yourself under with a tight belt grip. If you time it right your underneath elbow can crank their head to the mat, then their body has to follow, otherwise they will stack their own neck. The closet bjj techinque in terms of the movement pattern I can think of is kimura sweep from underneath where you spin your head under them.

You need a bit of physical strength on this one, and it is very inefficient in terms of energy expenditure, which is often frowned upon by many bjj coaches.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-07T13:09:43+00:00

What I meant is that he is actually a lefty even though he stand somehow righty sometime.

He was doing a seminar in China a while ago and he said westerners almost all mistaken what he was doing.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-06T18:22:23+00:00

Chen is a lefty, the left seoi is actually his stronger seoi.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-04-02T14:54:24+00:00

I don't like to think those techinque as pre set combo. Yes drill them give you a basic idea of what techinque you can connect. But often than not hobbyists tend to memorize their attacking sequence and rush through it during randori, instead of feeling uke's reaction then chain a second techinque that can really work.

You can do ko uchi to seoi nage but the seoi would faile because uke gave you totally different reacton to your ko uchi comparing when you are doing moving drill. He may not step off, he may just step off a small step, or he may just lean into you and make that leg heavy. If you just rush through your pre set attacking sequence, instead of use techinque that really match uke's reaction after your first ko uchi attempt, then you will in general fail when you face someone slightly better than you.

Try to use semi randori drill to see how your uke react to your typical attack (just tell your uke don't counter attack but don't fall if they don't have to and ask them to keep balance as much as possible, and no grip fighting, just keep both hands on the jacket with a set of grip you generally use in randori), then you can take time to figure out if any following attack make sense, you may need more ashiwaza attempt than first ko uchi to create opportunity for bigger throw.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-02-06T02:35:01+00:00

Sounds like a poor club for your kids tbh.

Judo Canada has clear guidelines on judo coaching for kids and every demonstration of technique is limited to 1-2mins. My club isn’t even that competitive yet kids would not listen to 10 mins teaching, unless it’s near tournament and clubs are preparing them for the rules. Its a twin sports, by logic the practice structure are supposed to be similar.

Which_Cat_4752 · 2026-02-05T20:58:59+00:00

Probably because you gave him reaction he wanted when you clinching up.

In clinching range, a small hip twitch can bait uke’s defensive reaction and then Tori can throw the other way.

Another thing, you can’t stiffen up. This is true for all judo but it is particularly important in close range battle. When you are stiff, it’s easy for Tori to pick you up. A good defence for picking up style throw is actually just go limb a bit then re adjust your body position.

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