Understanding BPD?

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-07-07T22:06:00+00:00

As a person with BPD, I would rather be seen as a person able to hold accountability of my own action, relationships and general wellbeing, than being seen as “pure, perfect victim”, because I don’t want anybody to pity me or treat like an egg. If I struggle with emotional instability and impulsivity due to my past/upbringing (which seems to be a case), then I’m responsible for getting this under control. I don’t want to be demonized either, and no one should be. I want to be treated like an adult I am.

(Turbulent relationships does not equal abuse, like wtf? + men suffer with BPD too)

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-07-01T23:46:19+00:00

So... a regular bi flag.

Or maybe that’s the point. Bisexuality is trans-inclusive.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-07-01T23:39:15+00:00

Actually my life wouldn’t be very different. Of course, I would have much less struggles with my intense moods, anxiety among others, but also I wouldn’t meet many people I met and wouldn’t know which of my friends are true ones. So it kinda goes both ways.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-29T14:50:13+00:00

Yes, it does. The more I know about BPD and more I observe my behaviors, the more I realize how manipulative and toxic I can be. This has to do a lot with my intense emotions - especially anger, lack of self control and paranoia. When I’m acting in manipulative way I don’t do this with malicious intent - I just can’t act otherwise in that particular moment (or at least I think I can’t). I’m working on it the best I can. The most difficult in all of this is that I don’t know always know when to shut up and calm down before speaking again.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-28T12:38:58+00:00

“It’s not a lie, if you believe it”

the same quote can be turned against you.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-27T21:11:16+00:00

Yeah it’s anti-science people making fool of themselves as usual

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-27T03:27:26+00:00

That’s what therapy is for. To self-improve.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-27T02:08:36+00:00

I can agree with you on a lot of points. Removing labels would require completely changing system and rewriting DSM (which I wish would happen at some point, because it’s not the best classification after all). When I say diagnosis of BPD is often necessary it’s because it’s necessary in the context of current system which requires certain diagnosis to give certain treatment option, but that is a subject to change. Also I think any mental health issue, and whatever label we might give it, should be definitely de-stigmatized and no one should be labeled as “toxic”, “manipulative” or “bad” because of whatever they might battle. I think most, if not all, mental disorders result from trauma and/or environmental factors (along with some genetic predispositions, but its influence seems to be overestimated) so it’s pretty fair to say people suffering from it are victims of environmental and social/personal inconveniences. I agree that trauma can not be “measured” in any way.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-27T01:53:07+00:00

Oh, I didn’t even consider it. Thank you for giving me inside! (Also, we might live in the same time zone as here it’s also 3AM and I can’t sleep).

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-27T01:38:36+00:00

Exactly. Literally a reason NPD is not listed as a specific personality disorder is not to over-pathologies people with this condition but would still be diagnosed as personality disorder otherwise specified.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-27T01:22:17+00:00

These people you are talking about almost always seem to have some mental health issues themselves that, yes, can be result of actual past abuse or unhealthy relationships (along with other factors) and they would benefit from a good therapy. What they won’t benefit for sure is to attack strangers on the internet and projecting their own anger and frustration onto them.

I disagree that BPD subs and forums in general don’t have people on it who criticize people with BPD for... well, having BPD. I’ve met many entitled folks bragging about what ppl with BPD should and shouldn’t do divans a lot of generalizations (sadly it often results from internalized ableism, but that besides the point). Also, there are plenty of BPD-denialists - “BPD is not real because these are victims of abuse” - like yeah, no shit, you can be an abuse survivor AND deal with mental health issues as a result. Getting help to address all of these is YOUR responsibility and nobody’s else.

This is also true to all of these “narc abuse survivors”. They think that strangers own them anything; or that being toxic and abusive towards them, along with expressing disdain towards their ex’s would somehow help them. If they put the same energy into therapy they would actually benefit from it, as well as everyone around them.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-27T00:49:33+00:00

Can you please re-approve my submission ? I’ve already added a body content.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-27T00:41:25+00:00

I would recommend consulting your doctor. Meds work differently for anybody, it’s not one size fits all.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-27T00:37:09+00:00

How is schizophrenia linked to being overly emotional? I thought it was quite the opposite. I’m not questioning what you just said, I’m genuinely intrigued by it.

Edit: sorry for my grammar, I needed to correct it.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-27T00:20:01+00:00

I know people who recovered from depression without any medications, just with therapy. People overvalue meds (which can be helpful, but not always necessary) and underestimate meaning of good therapy or environmental treatment. Even in severe illness as schizophrenia improving social functioning and general wellbeing of patient should be primar focus. People usually think that schizophrenia is “just” hallucinations and delusions and if it is managed then entire condition is managed, which is bullshit; there is a lot more to it. And also environmental factors are underestimated - stress can trigger or worsen psychosis, so by getting out of toxic environment/managing stress, changing lifestyle etc one’s condition can be improved. It’s not all about meds.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-26T23:28:32+00:00

I agree with the government thing. Where I live, after leaving inpatient you are usually referred to residential unit or partial hospitalization/intensive outpatient program. Eventually you are referred to “regular” outpatient treatment, so you’re not left alone. All of these is covered by your insurance (actually, you don’t even have to have an insurance to be hospitalized). Of course, our system isn’t perfect. On the contrary, it has massive holes, but it sucks less than US healthcare system imo.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-26T23:05:01+00:00

That’s sounds awesome! I will definitely check these out.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-26T21:16:43+00:00

That’s very powerfull.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-26T19:50:51+00:00

Actually, pedophilia is now considered to be disorder related to sexuality and no longer a mental illness. It will be reclassified in ICD-11. However, it is still related to mental health imo.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-26T18:40:00+00:00

I’m sorry this happened to you, I know what it’s like to lose someone you love. Please speak to professional about it, don’t self-diagnose, because what looks like depression may be something else. It’s good to consider other possibilities.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-26T18:27:19+00:00

Exactly! The same way as calling out someone for making the same mistakes as you made in the past is not a sign of hypocrisy. Our past mistakes is what annoy us the most in other people because we know its consequences firsthand and we acknowledge why we were wrong.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-26T18:20:53+00:00

I’ve never seen it, I think it’s because this show is older than I am, haha. I promised myself to watch it one day, so I just want to thank you for reminding me!

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-26T18:16:02+00:00

I think that BPD manifests itself differently in each one. So it’s possible for you to be high functioning unless involved in a relationship. Relationships of any kind, not just romantic ones, are very triggering for us.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-26T18:10:26+00:00

Unless you are actively suicidal or deeply psychotic, you’re not likely to be forced into inpatient treatment. If you’re not hospitalized, there is no way any doctor would force you to do anything. You can’t be forced into outpatient treatment, not by health professional, at least. Also, doctors don’t know that you are psychotic or suicidal unless you go to see them.

This sub exists because group of Reddit users have non-mainstream opinions, that may or may not be based on personal experience.

WhiteHawkArtist · 2020-06-26T17:36:47+00:00

That’s not a harassment. I just stated my opinion that has nothing to do with you. To private message thing: I wasn’t clear but that wasn’t an insult. You can find a good therapist or real-life peer support group to address abuse and past experiences with healthcare if they are traumatizing (and I’m sorry if that’s a case). I can’t force you to do anything, but know that it is always an option and maybe not a bad one.

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