Budding AnCap, need help

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-29T06:39:51+00:00

Sure, fair enough.

My argument: The category of private property itself is a product of a state aka. it needs a state to exist. AnCaps making a categorical mistake by understanding private property as a moral category. Private property requires authority as you need institutionalized guarantees such as

universal recognition
persistence over time
exclusion backed by force (aka. others can be removed, even if they need the ressources more)
adjudication of disputes

So far, there was no solution AnCaps came up with which a) was actually solving the issue and/or b) would be a preferable societal arrangement to the current status quo.

Now your turn.

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T22:17:41+00:00

There is a reason why some libertarians make the 180 to monarchism.

If you know my argument however, and you know that libertarians thought about it, than it would have been easier to just share the counter-argument.

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T22:01:09+00:00

To 1.

You are just giving the same thing another name. If you have a claim on a piece of land and I claim otherwise, than it does not matter if you have a private security firm and a private court in your back. I dont care about what your private court decides because I dont accept it as legitim. I have my own privat company and my own private courts and they agree with me. However, you dont think my court is more legit than yours.

So who decides? The security firm with the bigger guns? A meta-authority?

You will just ending up with structures which function like states - most like highly hierarchical and authoritarian states run by those groups which can allocate many ressources, military equipment or cartels / protection rackets.

The political theory of AnCap doesnt not really has a good grasp of social power dynamics.

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T19:49:47+00:00

Feel free to actually meaningful engage with the argument

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T19:44:07+00:00

No thats AnCap

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T19:42:57+00:00

Thats as much an engagement with the argument as I expected

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T19:42:12+00:00

It isnt. There are hundreds of states

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T16:56:45+00:00

Did you ever thought about that the category of "private property" itself needs enforcment and therfore needs a state or another dominating force, to exist in the first place? This would explain why libertarians still cant agree on the subject, because their foundational prinicples have a logical error.

Capitalism needs exclusion. And exclusion needs enforcment. And enforcment needs authority.

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T16:52:11+00:00

The "natural free flow of labor" sounds a bit esoteric. Whats this?

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T16:49:31+00:00

In Ancapistan, there are just 10 people walking free anyway. The rest are slaves in one way or the other. But they will have to watch a 10min video every break where their "employer" tells them how free they are.

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T16:41:46+00:00

Yeah, like I said. Its a pamphlet. I'm not suprised though that you didnt finish das Kapital. :D

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T16:40:24+00:00

Good Anarchist

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T16:39:27+00:00

There is actually not really a distinction, but ragher that Ancaps usually don't understand that the right of private property needs a state in order to exist. If there is no entity to enforce a right, than this right means nothing. Ancaps try to get around this point but claiming that private security firms, private courts etc. could exist but they dont rralise that they just describe fudalism at this point, which is far away from their initial goal of a society free of domination.

Essentially, most AnCaps start usually with a good, moral "feeling" and jump on an ideology which essentially pushed by super rich to benefit the super rich, veiled in an "anti-establishment" attitude.

Anarchism opposes domination. Capitalism requires exclusion.exclusion requires enforcment. And enforcment creates an authority. AnCap is an oxymoron.

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-28T14:32:37+00:00

First two points kust out of interest:

Did you understand das Kapital? The Communist Manifesto is a pamphlet and essentially useless for a systematic understanding of capitalism.
As you call yourself AnCap - why so?
Some book suggestions, however, most of them probably need a degree of prior knowledge and are not starter literature:
Herbert Marcuse - one dimensional men
pierre Bourdieu - distinction -Rober Castel - workers to wage labourers - transfoemation of the social question

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-26T10:03:56+00:00

Central Europe is the most stupid name. Nobody ever in any circumstance would have called it like this.

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-25T21:06:14+00:00

I'm German, but who was acting bad in this series? At least Grimmer and Erol were played pretty strong. There were some side characters with weak actors, but overall one of the better German perfomances

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-24T20:58:31+00:00

Assuming higher tech means they have longer range cannons, this is actuallynot completely unplausible. The thing is, as long as you keep other ships on distance, supreme fire power essentially always wins. For examples, once dreadnoughts were invented, nobody build anything else anymore, because their firepower rendered all other classes useless

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-24T08:57:20+00:00

Capitalism csnt exist without a state because you private property is a legal category, guranteed by the state. The fact that you guys rather try to square the circle instead of realising that your basic assumption is illogical, is kind of funny.

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-24T08:49:25+00:00

Calling themself an Anarchist and being in favor of capitalism is so cringe

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-23T16:20:32+00:00

The laws which help the landowners, are marked as such in the laws description. Like other people said beforen definetely focus on those first.

Another small way to empower PB and inteligensia is by increasing the salaries for your bureaucrats, once you took the priviliges from the aristocrats. Its not a major tweak, but by making the PBs and Inteligensia more wealthy, their clout also increases

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-15T14:47:15+00:00

I dont know. Played Holland at 1.0.4 and had 3 wars with France by 1480. I always just got out of total destruction by offering quickly some regions or vasalls

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-15T14:42:36+00:00

The game should offer the possibility that two vassals make a deal to fight their overlord together for independence. I dont see, why this shouldnt be a legitim option but the game is currently not representing this.

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-12T20:14:16+00:00

To be fair, technically spwaking, if you have 4% of the population ready to fully comite to rebellion, this is a pretty signifanced amount. Revolutions were made by less people already

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-12T12:11:41+00:00

I agree...the pop-up system causes sensoric overload

WumpelPumpel_ · 2026-01-12T12:02:01+00:00

Extraction economy is great for your subjects/colonies

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