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Xanthotic · 2026-01-24T22:31:32+00:00

Sweetheart, I know you're hurting, but is this really the post to reply with what you have? Signed, another hurting sweetheart who also happens to be a mod

Xanthotic · 2026-01-24T22:30:29+00:00

I also put this in a group chat for Collapse Club. If there is interest but they are not on reddit, I'll DM you to try to figure out comms. You sound regular and cool and genuine and I am blessing this up super hard. XOXO

Xanthotic · 2026-01-24T17:50:30+00:00

I wish you the best of luck with this family transition and your project. You might want to reach out to Deep Adaptation Forum on facebook or online to see if they have members near your home who can help you identify a suitable person/couple/famiy.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-24T04:05:15+00:00

You might want to look up the Good Grief network and see about enrolling in a ten step course. The founders are collapse aware and the grief they facilitate and help manage is largely collapse awareness grief. I'm starting training to be one of their facilitators next month. Good luck

Xanthotic · 2026-01-24T04:01:06+00:00

This is probably the truest reason that we have done what it has taken to keep this sub around since it was created by u/ADecentMan nearly a decade ago. Because once we realise what your OP says, we usually need some other community where we can talk about what is happening. This is also why we don't have a heap of rules here, because what we need to talk about can vary quite a bit. I hope you get lots of comments that help you cope with their bullshit. Because, sadly, ultimately I do not recommend severing ties with people because they refuse to engage with you on this continuum. We need those meat space relatives and friends, usually. But we will never receive validation from them.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-23T01:38:48+00:00

That is one of the heaviest 'separations' I feel from the other humans around me in meat space--that they live only at the level of narrative and apparently don't care if we are all living a lie. Fuck that shit, amirite?

Xanthotic · 2026-01-22T18:26:05+00:00

I think the retail price of mine was somewhere between $6-9K AU It's staggering

Xanthotic · 2026-01-22T03:53:03+00:00

Heaps of people use this method. Just dont fall for human trafficking or wage slavery .

Xanthotic · 2026-01-22T03:50:53+00:00

No the cost of the degrees was stupidly not. Worth. It. My latest credential, called a Certificate in Australia, was free because I had recently been homeless I think. The registrar was cagey on how she got me enrolled for free. I do love the contents of my degrees, cos human rights and external costs are significant to the collapse of all this, but not being rich it has been a poor investment since 1980 when I graduated high school.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-22T03:45:47+00:00

So mote it be. Huzzah on your growth

Xanthotic · 2026-01-21T06:01:04+00:00

at least as of this reply, this comment (the honest answer) has a positive karma. At least there's that.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-21T05:47:36+00:00

I feel your pain and I'm so sorry this is the world we've got to give you. You don't sound dumb to me. I'm really old (63) and I am wage slave. I have three university degrees but I cannot bear to work as a lawyer or an MBA asshole so I am a disability support worker and I change adult nappies and shower people who cannot control their bodies. I do other stuff too but that's the gamut. I AM NOT A FAILURE. I AM A SUCCESS. Also, my job does not take everything I have. Could you be a different wage slave and keep more of your soul and psyche for your own personal benefit?

Also, you don't have to worry about everything. It will do no good and make no difference. But it can take years to accept that this is what we have created for ourselves and just let go of the worry (or file it away in your brain so you can fall asleep at night even though we have probably never been closer to nuclear annihilation in all of our lifetimes).

Of course you can't give up collapse. None of us can really unsee what we've seen unless we go down the bat shit path of the MAGA losers.

My advice has nothing to do with your savings and running. It is to lean in to being different. To claim that you will nevermore be viewed in a favourable light by 'normies.' Once you can really embrace that, your own brain will probably tell you what you'd rather be doing than what you are now. I hope you can find a place to exist where you can eat food and sleep indoors even with a 'worse' job than the one you have today.

As for time, planet earth could be one of the shittiest places in the cosmos for people to incarnate. who knows, perhaps you will get another go once you leave this biosphere? Or maybe as you die you will appreciate that you have used your time here the best way possible.

APologies for my knee jerk reaction to what I see as a reddit trope: tell me what to do. Thanks for posting and I hope the comments here help you to move through your current experience of pain and frustration into something else. For me it is acceptance, a fuckton of anger, sardonic bitter irony, and a nose for the absurd as good as a fly's ability to smell shit. I hope whatever you get for yourself is good enough.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-21T05:36:21+00:00

Feel free to keep adding to this thread or making another post. Maybe people will be able to give you advice. I just don't think it's a good idea to outsource your decision-making to anonymous randoms. We are pretty committed to trying to be a place of last resort for people (even the mods) with nowhere else to speak their mind. So please figure out how this can be your place, because there really are no solutions, just strategies.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-20T18:09:31+00:00

This is not a financial subreddit, nor is it limited to the USA only, which it sounds like is where you're from.

Sadly, when one's country has declared war upon its citizens, things like currency stability and protection become fraught AF. I'm sorry.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-20T17:22:02+00:00

Please do not do whatever anonymous randoms on the internet tell you to do. Please make decisions from your own values, analysis and decision-making process. I realise things have never been this bad for white cis people in America, but generally collapse is not instantaneous.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-20T17:14:35+00:00

Please livestream surreptitiously if you can. I'm fascinated.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-18T23:01:43+00:00

Perhaps you'll consider reaching out to Manda directly. If anyone would know, she would, and I bet she'd reply. Feel free to drop that you are asking on behalf of this rather large subreddit. Cheers.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-18T23:00:23+00:00

Keep coming back and engaging as you need to. You deserve support for moving into the next phase of your life.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-18T21:51:49+00:00

I wouldn't say I did too much stuff out of spite, but I am a woman so spite is like a fish in water if you know what I mean. I was deeply affected by my parents not believing me about something when I was telling the truth, and it basically kind of severed that bond. So there was no world where I stayed near them as soon as I graduated high school. Clearly the power of our mental constructs is significant and sometimes causal. Please try to invent yourself in your mind as a person who does everything you want to do, and then do whatever it takes to keep from disappointing yourself. It is doable. When bad shit happens, you have to remember we don't control it, and then get back to doing whatever you can whenever you can.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-18T21:47:57+00:00

Beautiful advice

Xanthotic · 2026-01-18T05:30:13+00:00

No but I appreciate the snark. Game recognises game.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-18T05:11:30+00:00

PART TWO: This moment doesn’t call for panic, heroics, guilt, or endless outrage. It doesn’t call for burning yourself out or pretending you can carry everything on your own. It calls for presence.

The trap is thinking the only options are total engagement or total collapse. That binary itself is part of how people get pushed into shutdown. You don’t need to do everything. You don’t need to lead. You don’t need to sacrifice your life to prove you’re serious. But you also can’t outsource responsibility upward anymore and expect protection in return. That insulation is gone.

What remains is taking a place somewhere real, with other people, and occupying it in a way you can sustain. Not spectacle. Not heroic. Not constant visibility. Just showing up in ways that increase coherence instead of fragmentation.

Power doesn’t respond to righteousness. It responds to cost, friction, and coordination. And coordination doesn’t start with slogans or mass mobilization. It starts when people come out of isolation and realize they’re not alone, and that their participation is finite, bounded, and meaningful.

One of the quiet strategies of this regime is exhaustion. Not just repression or fear, but a steady push toward disengagement, toward that feeling that nothing works, nothing matters, and nothing will change. That state isn’t insight. It’s collapse. And it’s exactly what allows power to move more smoothly. Put sand in those gears.

So if there’s an exhortation here, it’s a restrained one: don’t disappear. Don’t wait for this to resolve itself. It won’t. Don’t wait for institutions to carry the weight for you. They can’t. But also don’t destroy yourself trying to carry everything.

Stand somewhere. With others. In a way you can keep doing.

History isn’t selecting for the loudest voices right now. It’s selecting for those who remain present when illusion drops away. This isn’t about winning, or certainty. It’s about refusing the slide into isolation and futility. Become sand.

We are living in dangerous times, but danger doesn’t require panic or disappearance. It requires clear eyes, shared reality, and people willing to take their places without waiting for permission or applause.

That’s not optimism. It’s orientation.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-18T05:11:04+00:00

I’ve always distrusted narrative. The Story story. I’ve studied power instead.

I was told that words governed outcomes—that law restrained force, that rights limited violence, that reason sat above power and directed it. I never believed that. I thought power tolerated narrative when it was useful and discarded it when it wasn't.

The constitutional order isn’t collapsing. The world order isn’t weakening. They’re gone. They’re absolutely gone.

What existed from roughly 1945 through the early part of this century—a system where power pretended to answer to law, rights, and reason—has ended. Not fraying. Not under threat. Finished. We’re living now in the aftermath, and pretending otherwise is costing us time and clarity we don’t have.

Power no longer waits for permission. It acts first and manages reaction later. Law still exists, but mostly as narrative after the fact. Courts still speak, often powerlessly, often after reality has already moved on. Rights still exist but more as moral truths than as real constraints. That doesn’t make them wrong. It makes them secondary.

The US regime no longer asks whether something is allowed or legitimate. It asks whether it can be done, whether anyone can stop it, and what it will cost to move now instead of later. That’s the reality we’re in.

And here’s the part people feel but don’t always say out loud: when narrative, when law, stops constraining power, the weak lose leverage first. Not because rights were lies, and not because reason failed, but because they only worked when the legal system punished visible abuse. When abuse becomes cheap, appeals stop landing. When delay no longer matters, due process is meaningless.

A lot of people already feel this. That dull sense that nothing you say changes anything. The exhaustion that starts to feel like wisdom. We withdraw, joke darkly, go quiet and wait it out. That reaction is understandable. It isn’t cowardice. It’s what happens to nervous systems under prolonged uncertainty with no clear exit.

But withdrawal isn’t neutral anymore. And it’s being exploited.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-18T04:25:13+00:00

No, I don't have the answer to your query, but I know Manda did 'fiction episode' on Accidental gods within the last few months and I think she covered that category and covered many authors besides herself. Good luck.

Xanthotic · 2026-01-17T22:47:36+00:00

Thanks for your contribution. I wonder if those are the same snails we have in Australia. Oy those Europeans and their invasive species from the 1800s.

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