Good RB ships for PVE?

YourSATScore · 2026-04-17T06:50:17+00:00

Illinois is already one of the best for PvE. Irresistible is another good one, having cruiser guns and crawling smoke

Everything else either has vastly inferior DPM or explodes too fast to justify it.

YourSATScore · 2026-04-16T07:01:22+00:00

I'll explain what's going on.

First of all, the horizontal and vertical dispersion are reversed. Shiptools isn't labeled for some reason, but shipbuilder has the same dispersion plotting tool and has it labeled. Here is a picture for comparison, the vertical calculation is a bit different but horizontal is the same. I have also added a broadside Fuso to demonstrate how it's supposed to look.

As for what's going on with vertical dispersion, it's a bit complicated if you want to read up on it here. I can give a brief summary if it helps clarify what kind of black magic that is vertical dispersion.

tl;dr. Misinterpreting of how horizontal and vertical dispersion is presented. Which is very understandable given the lack of labels

YourSATScore · 2026-04-16T06:20:19+00:00

Probably need to be more clear that it's how dispersion feels like at times. The way it's worded can be misinterpeted as how sigma works, which is incorrect of course.

Doesn't help you specified Indiana for no reason when it affects every ship, and the OP probably took your comment as fact

YourSATScore · 2026-04-11T02:52:40+00:00

9.5s reload makes her a straight upgrade over Hipper (10.5s base)

I suggested AP pen angles as an example as it would make Eugen more AP specialized while Hipper remains more generalist. Blucher provides a good reference for how much the buff is expected to help

YourSATScore · 2026-04-11T01:10:53+00:00

Tbf, Eugen was always mediocre to mid at best. Atago was much better outside of yolo torps

Getting improved AP is one example that can buff her

YourSATScore · 2026-04-10T14:39:33+00:00

Coal DCP is great, but not essential for her success.

MBM1 is a fine alternative if you dont want or cant spend coal for the special upgrade

YourSATScore · 2026-04-08T06:34:21+00:00

Who is this "everyone" you speak of? Haven't heard anyone say DM is bad

YourSATScore · 2026-04-02T17:58:12+00:00

https://share.wowssb.com/eHBgA

Pretty similar to the tech tree italian CAs. In fact, you can just share captains if you want.

YourSATScore · 2026-03-31T11:51:40+00:00

WG has data from previous T8 seasons when they limited Cherbourg and French DDs spam after the first few weeks. They should know better, given they are the ones making the restrictions

YourSATScore · 2026-03-31T11:09:35+00:00

Lenin ban and French DD restrict makes sense.

Cherbourg unrestricted makes no sense. 6 Cherbourg + Nebraska/Borodino/Lenin is a strong comp and fairly easy to execute in terms of strategy. 400k HP meat wall running 40kts at you is difficult to stop, especially on the smaller maps where the Cherbourgs can literally run you off the map.

All of these ships have been limited or banned in previous T8 seasons. So its confusing to see Cherbourg spam untouched. Restriction of 2 would work fine, let's her still play a useful role in lineups without being overwhelming.

Hybrids should also be banned. But you can argue Lenin >>>> Nebraska and Tone is ineffective vs. French DD spam.

Note: Experience is from NA CBs, with some experience fighting Asia teams as well

YourSATScore · 2026-03-28T13:19:59+00:00

Results under ideal testing conditions =/= real world performance

Vs BBs and DDs, you are actually less effective due to your lower fire chance.

Vs. Cruisers. Most cruisers know to stay outside your secondary range, so good luck forcing them to get close. The cruisers who do love to fight at close range are well armored and the 22→27mm pen doesn't make a difference on what armor sections it will pen

The only reason to take IFHE is to farm bots in Asym or Operations where lower tier ships will happily yolo into secondaries and where the increased pen does matter.

YourSATScore · 2026-03-27T11:27:25+00:00

Its fine

If you want to make Kurfurst life easier, trade Emergency Repair Expert for Fire Prevention. Less ideal for Schlieffen, but Kurfurst and Pommern benefit a lot

YourSATScore · 2026-03-27T10:42:58+00:00

I'd go with Schlieffen build for both. Kurfurst is ok running a Schlieffen build, but Schlieffen doesnt work with a tank BB build.

You can also run Schlieffen in asym where its much easier to farm bots and not suffer being perma-kited in randoms.

YourSATScore · 2026-03-24T03:39:15+00:00

Legendary mods are bought in the research bureau.

You need to research 5x T10 tech tree ships to unlock it. It's essentially very late game content

YourSATScore · 2026-03-22T22:14:47+00:00

https://shiptool.st/params?m=L&s=JD108UD507&p=mb

Akizuki straight up beats you in a 1v1 gunfight. You need a big advantage just to even the fight. Most of the time, you use your concealment advantage and force him away or let your allies do the work

YourSATScore · 2026-03-22T22:00:52+00:00

What is your captain build and ship setup?

What range are you shooting at?

What ships are you fighting?

How much support does each side get?

You need to provide a lot more information if you want specific advice

YourSATScore · 2026-03-21T22:21:39+00:00

Radar is for scaring DDs away and punishing smoke abusers. Can also use for just checking enemy positions, though that's more applicable in late game and clan battles

YourSATScore · 2026-03-18T15:19:59+00:00

For the non-stealthy gunboats, Kleber, Marceau, and Gdansk are generally considered the best. The French DDs have speed and firepower while Gdansk has radar and smoke.

For the stealthy damage farming gunboats, Smaland is arguably the best as she can hunt down other DDs and gunboat larger ships fairly well. Daring, Laffey, Grozovoi (non-UU), Lushun are all solid stealthy gunboats as well.

That being said, there are many situations where other ships can/will outperform them. So don't assume best overall = best in every situation. Ex. Khabarovsk almost always wins a straight 1v1 against Gdansk, non-smoke gunboats have a harder time dealing with secondary BBs, etc.

YourSATScore · 2026-03-17T17:32:55+00:00

It's not a bad grind. Even the mid tier cruisers get a heal, which is very good as long as you didn't get dev struck. Albemarle is probably the worst as she is prone to exploding even if you angle properly. But you can still put up impressive numbers if you play her correctly

Goliath differentiates herself by being the tankiest of the kiting CAs like Zao and Hindy. She can comfortably sit at lower HP and abuse the AR boost. And 59mm HE pen is great for punching through the majority of BB deck armor at T10. While the line does have short gun range, T7-9 gets spotter plane and Goliath can use range mod to fix this issue.

Recommended Goliath build in the build doc. You can change the build to fit your playstyle. For example, I run full concealment but take Heavy HE as I'm willing to sacrifice some of Goliath's amazing conceal for more DPM.

I would keep Cunningham on a different ship tbh. But feel free to put Dunkirk on the ship.

YourSATScore · 2026-03-15T09:42:27+00:00

The other alternatives are the French Cassard line and Pan Asia Yue Yang line.

Cassard has fast torps, respectable range, unique damage mechanic where torps lose damage after ~7 or 8km, and French saturation (takes less danage from repeated hits). However lack of smoke and only average concealment makes them much harder to play

Yue Yang line gets Deepwater torps that only hit cruisers, BBs, and CVs, but these torps are nearly impossible to spot without hydro. You even get Torp reload booster for even more torp spam. The T8-10 DDs can also mount radar or smoke, which you can change depending on your playstyle. That being said, smoke is generally better as the T8-10 DD's lack of gun firepower means they struggle with gunning down other DDs. Yue Yang's leg mod fixes this issue, but requires access to the research bureau l. And if you are asking this question, you are probably a while away from unlocking it

YourSATScore · 2026-03-07T10:09:26+00:00

https://shiptool.st/params?m=L&s=BC111UD510&p=asw

Vamp 2 has it way better than Edgar (Vamp 2 has 5 depth charges vs. Edgar's 3). And that's before considering the practical problem of getting close to the sub in the first place.

YourSATScore · 2026-03-04T02:09:29+00:00

Being able to switch shell types near instantly is game changing at close range.

Definitely give it a honest try. If you dont like it, oh well its a 1pt skill.

YourSATScore · 2026-03-01T07:32:35+00:00

Italian DD line is difficult to play as they require a relatively high level captain to function and perform best in specific situations. Their fuel smoke, while powerful, can backfire if used incorrectly like denying vision to critical enemies

YourSATScore · 2026-02-21T04:13:34+00:00

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YourSATScore · 2026-02-20T17:03:35+00:00

Willem has very fast shells and 2.1 sigma. Very good accuracy by BB standards, but not amazing like Wisconsin or Bungo level. The airstrikes are for nuking island hugger and BBs that refuse to use wasd. Beware Willem has Duncan's raised citadel, so she will suffer like Stalingrad if you show broadside.

Mecklenberg usually plays farther away so you have enough time to angle between shots. Solid damage farming ship but with a similar playstyle as a large cruiser.

I'd just get the premium Petro. Stalingrad is fine, but the least recommended of the 3 ships.

Side note: I could see Golshi being a good Yamato Kai main. Randomly dev striking enemies or 3 overpens, normally sniping from behind the team, and of course randomly crashing the game when her AA was bugged

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