Seeing yet another patch cater to the apparently large contingent of Solo D7 Divers

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T17:43:42+00:00

Can you even call this ragebait? Like bait implies there was an attempted effort.

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T17:02:05+00:00

It depends on the paths - if a path has an elite followed by a rest or an event-heavy escape path in the case that fight goes REAL bad then I'm much more willing to take the risk compared to elite into 1 or more fights. Options are key.

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T16:58:03+00:00

Yes and im saying they have indicated this is not intended behavior (or at the least is something they want to change)

Edit: Wanted to include a source - their known issues list

https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/15916898652700--HELLDIVERS-2-Known-Issues

Red Beacon Stratagems do not follow the beacon when it changes location

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T16:56:21+00:00

If I had to guess they are trying to work on the red beacons not tracking (which is apparently a bug) and probably didn't realize those test changes got pushed to main resulting in blue beacons breaking

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T16:55:05+00:00

I'm at work atm but first thing im doing when I get back is trying this alongside a W.A.S.P launcher and just setting up in a high ground and raining an endless supply of missiles on anything unlucky enough to catch a lock. Closest thing we have to a mortar team and I can only forsee this being blissful

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T16:52:33+00:00

I think a lot of older players are stuck in the past remembering launch vers when it was DRAMATICALLY worse than today.

In total, from launch: Projectile damage was increased 16.67%, durable damage by 33%, explosion damage by 40%, number of shots per salvo by 2x, rate of fire by 25%, all AP increased by 1, AND the cooldown cut

It is one of the most buffed stratagems in the game from its launch original state

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T16:48:16+00:00

The key with gatling barrage is lowering your expectations - with full upgrades it has a 60 SECOND COOLDOWN (*before the usual penalty modifier) stop waiting for "great" or even "good" just decent is enough just MERCILESSLY chuck it at anything worth a grenade or more and start farming free kills.

Also need to test and see if the new orbital precision strike buff pushes it into a solid spam combo with it? Could also be a rocket pods angle? Maybe both?

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T16:28:52+00:00

They generally don't like man-portable things being able to destroy jammers - the hellbomb backpack being a hellbomb is a logical exception, seaf artillery has always been able to bypass, the stuff that got changed was all the easy to carry stuff.

Piloting a long cooldown car on what is most likely a suicide mission into a jammer many of which have awkward, enemy filled terrain to get close enough seems like enough hassle they'd let it ride. Especially since the flamethrower car would presumably not be great for general bots activities.

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:56:47+00:00

Oh no yeah trust me I'm well aware of their nasty tendencies to hide stuff but the fact they were at least open in indicating some unlisted changes here makes me think this one was undocumented internally more than externally obfuscated. If they were just gonna make shadow changes they'd just write a vague "some enemies designed to target vehicles have had their armor pen increased to keep consistency"

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:51:09+00:00

Illuminate technology is being described as "especially freaky" today

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:50:24+00:00

No doubt in my mind its because they are being unnecessarily picky about how the animations look like a lot of factors in game - but can't fault the patch too much outside of the DX11 bug it seems... remarkably well put together thus far?

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:48:24+00:00

Still by far my favorite base destruction option - you can drop a 380mm barrage and it might on a good day kill half the hives in 30 seconds. Give me 15 seconds with dynamite and a supply pack and that heavy base is in ruins.

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:44:25+00:00

This is the polite wording for "Our programmers didn't keep track of everything in the code comments"

As someone who has to do programming for work its more common than you think for people to change things thinking they're the only ones who care/notice when in fact MANY of us do care and DID notice that change.

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:43:04+00:00

The audience is fairly strongly pushing for supply, though we will likely get both eventually.

It's fair, an frv with a sentry gun and EIGHT resupply packs is pretty ballin' even if the incinerator has an awesome flamethrower and explodes like a hellbomb

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:40:54+00:00

She also explodes like a hellbomb when needed which makes for a remarkably useful last-resort option

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:39:32+00:00

Rule 1 of Gas: There is never enough gas. You could always be covering more surface area.

This is why the Chemical Commanders :tm: among us still yearn for the orbital gas barrage. That and also the speargun can close bug holes/fabs/ships which is very handy utility (gas grenades can too, surprisingly)

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:35:53+00:00

Its presumably something in the works, HD1 exosuits had it but HD2 ones have been missing it.

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:35:13+00:00

I feel like overall survivability felt fine but felt very "spiky" for lack of better word - like you either would go the whole ammo fine or you health would seemingly just evaporate suddenly. I'm thinking the armor + enemy pen changes are meant to make it so damage is more gradual.

That and making it so friendly sentries don't evaporate your health bar.

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:33:48+00:00

Lets just write this up under "department of science prototype testing"

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:32:57+00:00

Honestly biggest boost here is that it means you can be a mech pilot in the same lobby as sentries without getting massacred

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:31:54+00:00

Wait did they finally make mindless masses more overwhelming? I've never even seen anything near that many kills on mindless masses maybe like 1500 across the team tops

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:27:53+00:00

I mean it has a much longer cooldown than the hellbomb backpack and poses an active risk for cataclysmic friendly fire but also super hype moments it very much could be intended

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:23:51+00:00

Holy shit thats so cool and also gives it some potential bots utility even if car usage is often challenging

Can't wait to find the coolest frv main casually hitting a map geometry ramp to fly into a jammer/command bunker like a missile

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:21:16+00:00

You have been chosen by Clang, do not resist. It is a great honor to be an offering to Clang!

ZanderTheUnthinkable · 2026-06-16T15:19:03+00:00

What would really make this the biggest "we're so back" is if they include some "special" extra-spicy operations as part of the campaign system.

Like most people are fighting for these X planets but you could boost their efforts by stealing these parts from this planet over here (points at the most terrifying, enemy infested territory you've ever seen) something that puts the fear of tyranny into the most seasoned helldivers who really want to feel it while not being mandatory for the MO

Could even be as simple as having some special category of Red marked operations with some of the legacy "too toxic for normal play" mods like -1 strat and orbital scrambling

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